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Anyone else a bit worried he'll fuck off if he continues to be dropped from the squad? This kid is special and we'll regret it.

Not trying to put a dampener on things, buzzing about the win but it's something we talked about in pub and all agreed on

Fidel Castro wrote:Anyone else a bit worried he'll fuck off if he continues to be dropped from the squad? This kid is special and we'll regret it.

Not trying to put a dampener on things, buzzing about the win but it's something we talked about in pub and all agreed on

Nacho said at the start of the season that he was pleasantly surprised to even be included in the 1st team squad and play the small amount he has. Plus there are plenty of mentors in the squad for him to look up to and learn from.

So I'm not worried at all.

Nope this is the start of his career and for all Pellegrini's faults he does know how to handle younger players and develop them.

Ray78 wrote:Nope this is the start of his career and for all Pellegrini's faults he does know how to handle younger players and develop them.

What are you basing that on? I think he's absolutely woeful at it. Arguably his worst quality.

twosips wrote:

Ray78 wrote:Nope this is the start of his career and for all Pellegrini's faults he does know how to handle younger players and develop them.

What are you basing that on? I think he's absolutely woeful at it. Arguably his worst quality.

I think it depends, but I'd generally agree. Sterling has been handled in a way that tells me Pellegrini wants Sterling to prove himself and not become complacent. He's taken him off at halftime, or dropped him, and made comments carefully about Raheem's performances at times. Yet, he also seemed delighted with him in the final CL game.

I also think because he is so concerned with winning as much as possible since he feels a need to prove himself to the constant questions about his management, that he is not so willing to take risks that he feels is more likely if relying upon young players when we have more experienced ones. He is not quite as concerned about the long term when he must know he's out the door after this season, possibly.

He did play Isco at a very young age, and arguably helped develop him. I just think the circumstances of his reign here the past two seasons, in particular, lead him to be very very cautious with his selections and that's where he's coming from.

No.

Of course if he had played today we would've won 9-0.

Fuck me why are we here? To try and win trophies or to worry about whether a kid is "happy" on his thousands a week?

People seem to think he is some kind of Meesiah and the answer to all our problems at present. He is a young lad playing big boys football now and he needs to be slowly but surely introduced.

I think he is a talent but I'm not with everyone that wants his playing from the start week in and week out. I don't think he has any intention of going anywhere because he didn't make the squad today. He will be back this week and for the FA cup game on weekend so I don't see it as a worry.

In time if he continues as he is doing and developing he will play regular.

Sister of fu wrote:People seem to think he is some kind of Meesiah and the answer to all our problems at present. He is a young lad playing big boys football now and he needs to be slowly but surely introduced.

I think he is a talent but I'm not with everyone that wants his playing from the start week in and week out. I don't think he has any intention of going anywhere because he didn't make the squad today. He will be back this week and for the FA cup game on weekend so I don't see it as a worry.

In time if he continues as he is doing and developing he will play regular.

I don't think it's quite that extreme. I think a lot of people think he's a talented kid who should be seeing more minutes. I personally think he could add something to the squad if given a chance. I'm not gonna go out on a limb and say I'd play him over bony every time, but he shouldn't be as far behind as he seems to be in my opinion. He's essentially had one start and very few lengthy cameos in the league. You cannot deny a lot of us have been crying out for him with 20-25 min left quite a few times. It's not like we've been grinding those wins out while holding him back either.

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:

Sister of fu wrote:People seem to think he is some kind of Meesiah and the answer to all our problems at present. He is a young lad playing big boys football now and he needs to be slowly but surely introduced.

I think he is a talent but I'm not with everyone that wants his playing from the start week in and week out. I don't think he has any intention of going anywhere because he didn't make the squad today. He will be back this week and for the FA cup game on weekend so I don't see it as a worry.

In time if he continues as he is doing and developing he will play regular.

I don't think it's quite that extreme. I think a lot of people think he's a talented kid who should be seeing more minutes. I personally think he could add something to the squad if given a chance. I'm not gonna go out on a limb and say I'd play him over bony every time, but he shouldn't be as far behind as he seems to be in my opinion. He's essentially had one start and very few lengthy cameos in the league. You cannot deny a lot of us have been crying out for him with 20-25 min left quite a few times. It's not like we've been grinding those wins out while holding him back either.

I think if we were in a better state form wise he would get more game time but we are shite and im sure throwing a raw kid in will not help. I think he will play this week and these are the types of games we should be looking at using him in.

If he is as good as we all think he is then he will know that in time he will play. I just don't think the timing is right at present with our league form patchy at best. The kid just needs to be patient as do the fans.

Sister of fu wrote:

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:

Sister of fu wrote:People seem to think he is some kind of Meesiah and the answer to all our problems at present. He is a young lad playing big boys football now and he needs to be slowly but surely introduced.

I think he is a talent but I'm not with everyone that wants his playing from the start week in and week out. I don't think he has any intention of going anywhere because he didn't make the squad today. He will be back this week and for the FA cup game on weekend so I don't see it as a worry.

In time if he continues as he is doing and developing he will play regular.

I don't think it's quite that extreme. I think a lot of people think he's a talented kid who should be seeing more minutes. I personally think he could add something to the squad if given a chance. I'm not gonna go out on a limb and say I'd play him over bony every time, but he shouldn't be as far behind as he seems to be in my opinion. He's essentially had one start and very few lengthy cameos in the league. You cannot deny a lot of us have been crying out for him with 20-25 min left quite a few times. It's not like we've been grinding those wins out while holding him back either.

I think if we were in a better state form wise he would get more game time but we are shite and im sure throwing a raw kid in will not help. I think he will play this week and these are the types of games we should be looking at using him in.

If he is as good as we all think he is then he will know that in time he will play. I just don't think the timing is right at present with our league form patchy at best. The kid just needs to be patient as do the fans.

There's certainly validity in what you say, I personally just feel he's clinging to those excuses a little too much. I feel across the season so far he could have used him more. I'm not even taking starts. He should never be brought on for 2-3 mins when we need a goal, if he's good enough to score
One give him 10-15 min.

I think that this season Iheanacho will just be happy to be part of the squad, get a few cameos here and there in the PL, score a couple of goals, get a start or two in the cups and make his presence felt.

He has done all of that and in the second half of season who knows, he may get more minutes due to injuries, suspensions, fixture congestion et all. I doubt very much he is looking to leave at present, where would he go that he would get more minutes at a better club? Nowhere, that's where.

If next season, he is still getting 5 minutes and the situation isn't getting better, then he needs to put a shift in during training and make himself a better player. That's not to say he doesn't train well now, but sometimes the younger lads have to prove themselves more than the old pros. Harsh, but that's the way it is I suspect.

He is a great prospect and I for one am happy at his level of progress this season. He will only learn more and more training with the likes of Kun, Silva, Yaya, KDB, Sterling etc. once he learns his role in the side he will explode. This will likely be in a year or two, a bit like Sterling as it happens, but when it does, wow

When there's an option of bringing Bony on or Ian I think 99% of us would rather have Ian. The kid has more talent in his one pube than Bony in his whole body!

Reading between the lines of what The Charming Man has said about him, I reckon The perception is that Nacho man already thinks he's made it and isn't working hard enough as a result.

Mase wrote:When there's an option of bringing Bony on or Ian I think 99% of us would rather have Ian. The kid has more talent in his one pube than Bony in his whole body!

I'm going to ask to rescind my vote for Legend status after this comment. :)

Fidel Castro wrote:Anyone else a bit worried he'll fuck off if he continues to be dropped from the squad? This kid is special and we'll regret it.

Not trying to put a dampener on things, buzzing about the win but it's something we talked about in pub and all agreed on

I can assume this after several beers?

Not for one minute do I think he will fuck off elsewhere, he's not fookin Devante Cole or some other Billy big bollox wannabe.

His time will come and as others have said, the time to give him 25 minutes is once we've put the game to bed by 3 or 4 goal margin, which sadly hasn't really happened this season so far. Let's get Norwich out of the way and hope we get stalybridge/Torquay/Macclesfield in the next round.

If we are up 3/4 goals there will be no pressure like there would be if we are still chasing a game (which is where we are at all to often at the minute), he's only just turned 19, having come from Africa only one year ago, to even be with the first team can be beyond his own expectations.

Have no doubt he's learning just by being surrounded by the players he is with.

His time will come....

twosips wrote:

Ray78 wrote:Nope this is the start of his career and for all Pellegrini's faults he does know how to handle younger players and develop them.

What are you basing that on? I think he's absolutely woeful at it. Arguably his worst quality.

Cazorla and Isco would say otherwise.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

twosips wrote:

Ray78 wrote:Nope this is the start of his career and for all Pellegrini's faults he does know how to handle younger players and develop them.

What are you basing that on? I think he's absolutely woeful at it. Arguably his worst quality.

Cazorla and Isco would say otherwise.

Generous. Isco was a 19 year old signing who was already playing football professionally for Valencia B, and Valencia B's star performer. He introduced Cazorla. Yes. He was at Villareal for five years though so he had to introduce one at least.

Given the hand he's got at City I think he's getting it really wrong.

twosips wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

twosips wrote:

Ray78 wrote:Nope this is the start of his career and for all Pellegrini's faults he does know how to handle younger players and develop them.

What are you basing that on? I think he's absolutely woeful at it. Arguably his worst quality.

Cazorla and Isco would say otherwise.

Generous. Isco was a 19 year old signing who was already playing football professionally for Valencia B, and Valencia B's star performer. He introduced Cazorla. Yes. He was at Villareal for five years though so he had to introduce one at least.

Given the hand he's got at City I think he's getting it really wrong.

Wouldn't you say that Isco was ins similar position to Iheanacho now when Malaga signed him?Playing B football which is more or less our equivalent to under21.

There was more than one, Bruno Soriano is another he brought through at Villareal, still playing there now I believe.

PrezIke wrote:

Mase wrote:When there's an option of bringing Bony on or Ian I think 99% of us would rather have Ian. The kid has more talent in his one pube than Bony in his whole body!

I'm going to ask to rescind my vote for Legend status after this comment. :)

Haha cheers mate.

Last seasons Youth Cup final against Chelsea proved there is some way to go before the youth team players are completely ready for first team football.