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Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from referees

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:34 pm
by CTID Hants
Use of video technology would mean Man City go top of the table by winning their game in hand, rather than still trailing in the title race.

Manchester City fans have been outraged all season that bad refereeing decisions have cost them points all season – and here is the proof they are absolutely right!

And the use of video technology on a trial basis cannot come soon enough for the Blues, who would be just two points off top spot – with a game in hand – if the officials had been getting it right.

The research, done by sports writer Harry Pratt on his Hypothetical Premier League (HPL) website , analyses what the table would look like if referees had got the big calls right.

City fans have been furious this season as a series of controversial moments have gone against them – but so have the fans of every other football team.

But Pratt's analysis of refereeing decisions has found that City would be three points better off if video technology had been available.

And it reinforces the belief that Leicester have been getting a sympathetic ride by match officials, as they would be SIX points worse off if refs had been on the ball.

Arsenal would be top, with a point more, while Spurs would have four less, but the Blues would be poised to overtake both of them, and Leicester, by winning their game in hand.

Pratt only looks at major decisions that had a bearing on results, checking the legitimacy of goals and penalties, and red cards which had a bearing on a result – and he takes into account the opinions of expert pundits.

Those are the kind of decision which the International Football Association Board has decided will come under scrutiny when they trial the use of video referees.

Of course, there are other decisions which could have had a bearing on the outcome of match, such as the ref's failure to spot James Milner's handball in last week's game at Anfield, when the score was 2-0.

The two big decisions which are flagged up by the HPL are Mark Clattenburg's dreadful award of a penalty to Tottenham, and the non-award of a spot kick to Raheem Sterling against Everton.

Pundits Thierry Henry, Jamie Carragher and Niall Quinn all lambasted Clattenburg for “guessing” that Raheem Sterling had handled, when the cross hit his back and rebounded onto the top of his arm.

Of course, that was a double whammy for the Blues, as it meant they dropped a point and title rivals Spurs gained two.

Sterling was also at the centre of the controversy in the goalless draw at home to Everton, when he skated past John Stones and was scythed down by the tired defender in the last minute.

Ref Roger East waved away the appeals, but it was a stonewall penalty.

Former ref Dermot Gallagher reviewed the decision for Sky Sports and said: “It's a foul, he just hasn't identified that Stones has gone in, he's not got the ball, he's taken his legs.”

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... l-11001161?

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:44 pm
by Cocacolajojo1
Add to that that were the least fouled against team in the entire league last season, despite all our possession.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:45 pm
by City64
Err like we don't already know this shit ?
Couldn't believe it when we were awarded a penalty last Saturday v Villa , mind you we were already 4 nil up .

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:47 pm
by iwasthere2012
Cocacolajojo wrote:Add to that that were the least fouled against team in the entire league last season, despite all our possession.


And yet the likes of Silva and Aguero are constantly injured because of all the kicking they take.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:19 pm
by zuricity
Silva was shamelessly taken out from behind in an international match against Denmark. This kept him out of many games this season. I would love to know how much the Denmark defender got for his little tricks. I think Silva has struggled ever since then.

We know City are getting a rough deal. If all the camera streams were made available to the public during a match, the public could easily construct a correct view of all offsides, fouls , dubious decisions. It would put the likes of SKY editors to shame.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:23 pm
by iwasthere2012
zuricity wrote:Silva was shamelessly taken out from behind in an international match against Denmark. This kept him out of many games this season. I would love to know how much the Denmark defender got for his little tricks. I think Silva has struggled ever since then.

We know City are getting a rough deal. If all the camera streams were made available to the public during a match, the public could easily construct a correct view of all offsides, fouls , dubious decisions. It would put the likes of SKY editors to shame.


NBCSN are a lot fairer in their analysis.
If you could get a subscription to them over here I'd consider it. The guaranteed streams have dried up.
I've taken to watching our games in Spanish. (NBCSN Universo) At least you don't have to listen to the same biased tripe week in week out.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:58 pm
by Original Dub
I'm happy with this and the fact that it seems to be now being highlighted in some quarters with regards to increased video technology.
It doesn't paint the whole picture of course, but it's a start.

They'll hold out as long as possible before introducing it bit by bit,in order to milk the last of the huge amounts of money NOT having video technology currently brings, through one form or another.

But it's coming. And it's something I've dreamt of for a long time.

(in case you didn't notice ;)

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:24 pm
by DoomMerchant
Original Dub wrote:I'm happy with this and the fact that it seems to be now being highlighted in some quarters with regards to increased video technology.
It doesn't paint the whole picture of course, but it's a start.

They'll hold out as long as possible before introducing it bit by bit,in order to milk the last of the huge amounts of money NOT having video technology currently brings, through one form or another.

But it's coming. And it's something I've dreamt of for a long time.

(in case you didn't notice ;)


I agree that it will be fantastic. Drag the sport into the modern era FFS.

Cheers

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:51 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
And it doesn't take into a/c 2 offside goals against Spurs away. I know we lost by 3 but we wouldn't have lost if their first 2 goals had been correctly disallowed.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:26 pm
by Hazy2
Sterling has has taken shit all season. To many refs have told him to get on with it after clear fouls. Last season Smalling foul on Yaya pen and red, nothing by a rag ref. How many pundits have turned a blind eye to the bullshit.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:38 pm
by nottsblue
Just heard today bears sometimes take a crap in the woods

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:43 pm
by Socrates
This underestimates the entire problem as is only looking at a narrow range of decisions, it nonetheless demonstrates how just one single change to lessen the impact of unfair refereeing would positively impact us.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:08 am
by Slim
OD's been banging on about this for ages, not sure this is a huge surprise.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:37 am
by CTID Hants
Slim wrote:OD's been banging on about this for ages, not sure this is a huge surprise.


The reason I posted it was to (a) help OD's sanity (B) show that it is getting noticed not just by us but also noticed elsewhere....

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:41 am
by Socrates
CTID Hants wrote:
Slim wrote:OD's been banging on about this for ages, not sure this is a huge surprise.


The reason I posted it was to (a) help OD's sanity (B) show that it is getting noticed not just by us but also noticed elsewhere....


You found supporting evidence, from an independent source, for an existing hypothesis that was potentially tainted by bias. Good work and anyone dismissing it needs a rethink.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:45 am
by Original Dub
CTID Hants wrote:
Slim wrote:OD's been banging on about this for ages, not sure this is a huge surprise.


The reason I posted it was to (a) help OD's sanity (B) show that it is getting noticed not just by us but also noticed elsewhere....



Whatever is left of it thanks you very much ;)

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:49 am
by gillie
CTID Hants wrote:
Slim wrote:OD's been banging on about this for ages, not sure this is a huge surprise.


The reason I posted it was to (a) help OD's sanity (B) show that it is getting noticed not just by us but also noticed elsewhere....

Ian too late mate Ronan has bee insane for years:)

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:13 am
by Original Dub
"I've been mad for fucking years... been over the edge for yonks"

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:23 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Original Dub wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
Slim wrote:OD's been banging on about this for ages, not sure this is a huge surprise.


The reason I posted it was to (a) help OD's sanity (B) show that it is getting noticed not just by us but also noticed elsewhere....



Whatever is left of it thanks you very much ;)

Well, I happen to agree with you. Although I think the people who sit near me at the match think I'm mad.

Re: Manchester City HAVE been getting a rough deal from refe

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:28 pm
by zuricity
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:And it doesn't take into a/c 2 offside goals against Spurs away. I know we lost by 3 but we wouldn't have lost if their first 2 goals had been correctly disallowed.



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