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I have been loking at the co-efficiancy rankings here http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... index.html

as things stand next season we are guaranteed Pot two. we are ranked 15th at the moment, however of the sides above us, several will win their league and others will not qualify (Chelsea, Valencia and possibly Schalke)

Current Rankings
1 Real Madrid CF – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season
2 FC Bayern München – Can still win their league - Pot 1/2 next season
3 FC Barcelona – League winners - Pot 1 next season
4 Chelsea FC – Will not win their league - out of europe next season
5 Club Atlético de Madrid – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season
6 SL Benfica – Can still win their league - Pot 1/2 next season
7 Paris Saint-Germain – League winners - Pot 1 next season
8 Juventus – Can still win their league - Pot 1/2 next season
9 Arsenal FC – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season
10 Borussia Dortmund – Can still win their league - Pot 1/2 next season
11 FC Schalke 04 – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season if they qualify, currently 5th in the league
12 FC Zenit – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season if they qualify, currently 5th in the league
13 FC Porto – Can still win their league - Pot 1/2 next season
14 Valencia CF – Will not win their league - out of europe next season
15 Manchester City FC – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season if they qualify, currently 4th in the league
16 SSC Napoli – Can still win their league - Pot 1/2 next season

Likely Pot 1
Barcelona
Bayern/Dortmund
PSG
Porto/Benfica
Napoli/Juventus
Leicester
CSKA Moscow/FC Rostov or PSV/Ajax
Europa League Winners

Likely Pot 2
Arsenal
City
Porto/Benfica
Napoli/Juventus
Real Madrid
Bayern/Dortmund
Atletico Madrid
A.N.Other

Just the small matter of qualifying now which is far from certain given Kompany injury and inability to win back to back games since October !

Leicester in pot one. Jesus. Let's see how they cope with 4 competitions.

"15 Manchester City FC – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season if they qualify, currently 5th in the league"

Ahem

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:"15 Manchester City FC – Will not win their league - Pot 2 next season if they qualify, currently 5th in the league"

Ahem

hahaha, good spot changed, thats cut and paste for you

Our coefficient is higher than the UEFA site (which was last updated 24th Feb). We've now got a coefficient of 93.881, putting us in 12th place.

ALWAYS use Bert's site for coefficients. UEFA are slow to update, and sometimes prone to errors in calculating their own system. Says a lot when some hobbyist in the Low Countries is more reliable than a multi-billion Euro organisation. http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2016.html

BlueinBosnia wrote:Our coefficient is higher than the UEFA site (which was last updated 24th Feb). We've now got a coefficient of 93.881, putting us in 12th place.

ALWAYS use Bert's site for coefficients. UEFA are slow to update, and sometimes prone to errors in calculating their own system. Says a lot when some hobbyist in the Low Countries is more reliable than a multi-billion Euro organisation. http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2016.html

Thats a great, site, if you click the 2017 link, it shows you there is 0.015 separating Italy and England as things stand. We need Juve and Lazio to go out to make sure we keep the 4th spot. We know we have Liverpool/Rag through so extra points there and we are also through for extra points. Its feckin close

Wonderwall wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:Our coefficient is higher than the UEFA site (which was last updated 24th Feb). We've now got a coefficient of 93.881, putting us in 12th place.

ALWAYS use Bert's site for coefficients. UEFA are slow to update, and sometimes prone to errors in calculating their own system. Says a lot when some hobbyist in the Low Countries is more reliable than a multi-billion Euro organisation. http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2016.html

Thats a great, site, if you click the 2017 link, it shows you there is 0.015 separating Italy and England as things stand. We need Juve and Lazio to go out to make sure we keep the 4th spot. We know we have Liverpool/Rag through so extra points there and we are also through for extra points. Its feckin close

Another thing it shows is that the fair play place, if awarded to a country with a large number of entrants and a team who want to get knocked out to focus on their league campaign, is actually a disadvantage for a country's coefficient. Had West Ham not been awarded a fair play place, England would currently be taking 13.786 points from this campaign, rather than 12.375.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:Our coefficient is higher than the UEFA site (which was last updated 24th Feb). We've now got a coefficient of 93.881, putting us in 12th place.

ALWAYS use Bert's site for coefficients. UEFA are slow to update, and sometimes prone to errors in calculating their own system. Says a lot when some hobbyist in the Low Countries is more reliable than a multi-billion Euro organisation. http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uef ... k2016.html

Thats a great, site, if you click the 2017 link, it shows you there is 0.015 separating Italy and England as things stand. We need Juve and Lazio to go out to make sure we keep the 4th spot. We know we have Liverpool/Rag through so extra points there and we are also through for extra points. Its feckin close

Another thing it shows is that the fair play place, if awarded to a country with a large number of entrants and a team who want to get knocked out to focus on their league campaign, is actually a disadvantage for a country's coefficient. Had West Ham not been awarded a fair play place, England would currently be taking 13.786 points from this campaign, rather than 12.375.

Its going to the wire!

a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

Check outside for flying pigs.



We're not winning CL. The rest is possible.

iwasthere2012 wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

Check outside for flying pigs.


We're not winning CL. The rest is possible.

I agree, however, hypothetically?

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

West Ham don't get the place, but the other 5 do, from what I read at the start of the season.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

West Ham don't get the place, but the other 5 do, from what I read at the start of the season.

That sounds right!

Wonderwall wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

West Ham don't get the place, but the other 5 do, from what I read at the start of the season.

That sounds right!

From the ever-reliable Uefa.com: http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/ne ... 15121.html
So Liverpool would go into the Play-Off round, and West Ham would end up in the Europa.

Wonderwall wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

West Ham don't get the place, but the other 5 do, from what I read at the start of the season.

That sounds right!

if that were the case I would almost hope for Scum to beat West Ham to the fourth spot ...

Wonderwall wrote:

iwasthere2012 wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

Check outside for flying pigs.


We're not winning CL. The rest is possible.

I agree, however, hypothetically?

Hypothetically the hammers would be rightly pissed off.

Hypothetically, what would happen if the top four end up;

Leicester
Spuds
City
West Ham

Arsenal win fuck all and Liverpool beat United on penalties after extra time on Thursday but then get hammered next round in the Europa.
United drop out of the Europa places for next year after we start their final demise on Sunday......


Would the world stop turning????

iwasthere2012 wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:

iwasthere2012 wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:a little off topic here but what happens if

Top 4
Leicester
Spurs
Arsenal
West Ham

City Win the Champions League & Liverpool win the Europa League?

Check outside for flying pigs.


We're not winning CL. The rest is possible.

I agree, however, hypothetically?

Hypothetically the hammers would be rightly pissed off.

Hypothetically, what would happen if the top four end up;

Leicester
Spuds
City
West Ham

Arsenal win fuck all and Liverpool beat United on penalties after extra time on Thursday but then get hammered next round in the Europa.
United drop out of the Europa places for next year after we start their final demise on Sunday......


Would the world stop turning????

No, but it would be fucking brilliant. Especially if deGea traps his hand in a car door as well

iwasthere2012 wrote:United drop out of the Europa places for next year after we start their final demise on Sunday......

i can't even imagine us playing worth a shit on Sunday. What exactly do you think will happen?

i'd suggest a fucking dodgy as fuck 1-1 or 0-0 OR we get fucked off 3-1.

I usually always brick it over the derby and this one...i feel almost certain we will get fuck all from it.

I'm sorry but on our form? 7 pts from the last 6 matches. Outside of Villa the other points collected were unconvincing and Villa are the shittest team imaginable.

I hope to god we wake the fuck up, but i have no reason to believe something like that will happen this late in the game, with our injuries, and our lame duck gaffer, etc...

it's shit.

cheers

DoomMerchant wrote:

iwasthere2012 wrote:United drop out of the Europa places for next year after we start their final demise on Sunday......

i can't even imagine us playing worth a shit on Sunday. What exactly do you think will happen?

i'd suggest a fucking dodgy as fuck 1-1 or 0-0 OR we get fucked off 3-1.

I usually always brick it over the derby and this one...i feel almost certain we will get fuck all from it.

I'm sorry but on our form? 7 pts from the last 6 matches. Outside of Villa the other points collected were unconvincing and Villa are the shittest team imaginable.

I hope to god we wake the fuck up, but i have no reason to believe something like that will happen this late in the game, with our injuries, and our lame duck gaffer, etc...

it's shit.

cheers

A hypothetical 1-1 seems right.
But a fantastical 2-1 or 3-1 is not unimaginable.