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Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:35 am

wins appeal
has to go to a retrial
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Postby BlueinBosnia » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:47 am

Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?
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Postby blues2win » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:52 am

The conviction has been quashed so he's back in the position he was before the trial; innocent till proven guilty. Sub judice rules apply again so people should be careful what they post.
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Postby PeterParker » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:57 am

Wow.

A little to late, but what a decision.
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Postby Wonderwall » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:13 am

I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.
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Postby South Stand Balti » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:51 am

blues2win wrote:The conviction has been quashed so he's back in the position he was before the trial; innocent till proven guilty. Sub judice rules apply again so people should be careful what they post.

"Sub judges rules apply"- get you!!
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Postby blues2win » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:00 am

The Court of Appeal received fresh evidence from the defence on the basis of which they quashed the verdict and ordered a retrial. He will have to be recharged first. They are not publishing the grounds on which they allowed the appeal against the verdict so as not to prejudice the retrial.
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Postby Wooders » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:38 am

So if this all turns out that he is innocent, will the accuser face any charges
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Postby BlueinBosnia » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:46 am

Wooders wrote:So if this all turns out that he is innocent, will the accuser face any charges

I think it would depend on what new evidence came to light, but unless it's particularly incriminating (i.e. something like her trying to put the feelers out to sell her story to a publicist) then that would be unlikely.
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Postby Mase » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:51 am

Wonderwall wrote:I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.


Like a fuckin idiot hopefully! Knew nothing about the case before getting involved. Like half the bandwagon jumpers that stuck their beaks in.
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Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:30 pm

Mase wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.


Like a fuckin idiot hopefully! Knew nothing about the case before getting involved. Like half the bandwagon jumpers that stuck their beaks in.


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Postby Sister of fu » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:40 pm

I know from reading the case his legal team had been trying to find evidence of a text message or FB post from the victim that made it clear she was lying and trying to get money out of him as he was a footballer, it was supposed to be very daming of her, so maybe they have got it.

If found not guilty can he sue for loss of earnings and deformation of character? I know I would.
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Postby Dameerto » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:29 pm

Mase wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.


Like a fuckin idiot hopefully! Knew nothing about the case before getting involved. Like half the bandwagon jumpers that stuck their beaks in.

In fairness they made their decision based on a conviction under English law (not that I agreed with them). He still faces a retrial, but it was quashed on appeal due to new evidence apparently.
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Postby Dameerto » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:30 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?

Innocent until proven guilty. He's back to being a suspect.
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Postby Cocacolajojo » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:40 pm

Dameerto wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?

Innocent until proven guilty. He's back to being a suspect.


As an aside, are you not guilty or innocent if a prosecutor fails to prove your guilt in the UK?
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Postby PeterParker » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:05 pm

Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.
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Postby Wonderwall » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:11 pm

PeterParker wrote:Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.


A vile wannabe rent-a-gob who for some reason is given airtime by idiot media outlets. She is a D List "celebrity" in the loosest of terms
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Re: ched evans

Postby PeterParker » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:12 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.


A vile wannabe rent-a-gob who for some reason is given airtime by idiot media outlets. She is a D List "celebrity" in the loosest of terms


Thank you.

So she is a Kardashian.
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Re: ched evans

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:17 pm

PeterParker wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.


A vile wannabe rent-a-gob who for some reason is given airtime by idiot media outlets. She is a D List "celebrity" in the loosest of terms


Thank you.

So she is a Kardashian.


Worse than that, she was on the UKs apprentice Show (alan Sugar) and that show was her springboard to be the vile thing that she is
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Re: ched evans

Postby BlueinBosnia » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:44 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?

Innocent until proven guilty. He's back to being a suspect.


As an aside, are you not guilty or innocent if a prosecutor fails to prove your guilt in the UK?

In English and Welsh law, there is just 'guilty' and 'not guilty'. In Scotland, there's something called 'not proven', too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_proven).
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