Fat Cats carve-up

[carolina-blue]

And Pep wants us to take this competition (and it's organiser by implication) seriously... I would have a very hard time avoiding booing even though I know what he's trying to do and build.

I read that . will be interesting to see if we follow Peps lead or not .

[Original Dub]

And Pep wants us to take this competition (and it's organiser by implication) seriously... I would have a very hard time avoiding booing even though I know what he's trying to do and build.

I read that . will be interesting to see if we follow Peps lead or not .

Bollox.

In this case, pep follows our lead. This is about integrity and the right to voice your opinion against corruption.

If anyone asks or tells us to pipe then they're the ones that need educating.

I'm obviously not expecting him to boo, but to do similar to pelle and say it's the fans' right if they feel they are being shafted in any way.

The fans booing means the manager will get asked about it. It's the perfect opportunity to highlight the different reasons we are booing.

Which it did to a certain degree last season.

[london blue 2]

So if I get this right a portion of premier league revenue is being shared out to Europe's most successful historic teams? In addition the seeding will benefit historically successful clubs?

And after blatter and platini they are allowing this.

[nottsblue]

So if I get this right a portion of premier league revenue is being shared out to Europe's most successful historic teams? In addition the seeding will benefit historically successful clubs?

And after blatter and platini they are allowing this.

Bit like giving some of the FA cup prize money to the Old Etonians or Corinthians

[london blue 2]

So if I get this right a portion of premier league revenue is being shared out to Europe's most successful historic teams? In addition the seeding will benefit historically successful clubs?

And after blatter and platini they are allowing this.

Bit like giving some of the FA cup prize money to the Old Etonians or Corinthians

Or is it only the champions league deal?

[nottsblue]

So if I get this right a portion of premier league revenue is being shared out to Europe's most successful historic teams? In addition the seeding will benefit historically successful clubs?

And after blatter and platini they are allowing this.

Bit like giving some of the FA cup prize money to the Old Etonians or Corinthians

Or is it only the champions league deal?

Think it's just the CL deal. But why should the rags or any of the previous winners get a bigger slice because of a historic achievement? Surprise surprise, we are the losers in all of this and the architect is a bloke from Milan and David Gill.

[Im_Spartacus]

Fucking cunts

Incredible how blatant they are though, and nobody fucking questions it. Samuel is ploughing a lonely furrow, whilst the rest of the cunts on Fleet Street who moaned so much about FIFA and UEFA corruption yet on this particular aspect of corruption and fixing, we have newspapers who are actively choosing not to report certain elements of the news most likely because of their own clubs' interests - which for me ignoring news makes it nothing less than organised insitutional corruption.

[nottsblue]

Fuck that should have been two. Bad miss to be honest

[ashton287]

Fucking cunts

Incredible how blatant they are though, and nobody fucking questions it. Samuel is ploughing a lonely furrow, whilst the rest of the cunts on Fleet Street who moaned so much about FIFA and UEFA corruption yet on this particular aspect of corruption and fixing, we have newspapers who are actively choosing not to report certain elements of the news most likely because of their own clubs' interests - which for me ignoring news makes it nothing less than organised insitutional corruption.

Problem is the majority don't see it. I haven't seen or heard anything about this proposal apart from this thread, any fan who's team are not in the CL won't give a toss either.

If I'm understanding it right, BT's deal was 1,000,000,000 and 850,000,000 of that would just dissapear to be "re-allocated"? With that kind of money anyones can be bought and they will carry on doing whatever they want and paying whoever needs paying to get it done. Never gonna stop.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Fucking cunts

Incredible how blatant they are though, and nobody fucking questions it. Samuel is ploughing a lonely furrow, whilst the rest of the cunts on Fleet Street who moaned so much about FIFA and UEFA corruption yet on this particular aspect of corruption and fixing, we have newspapers who are actively choosing not to report certain elements of the news most likely because of their own clubs' interests - which for me ignoring news makes it nothing less than organised insitutional corruption.

Problem is the majority don't see it. I haven't seen or heard anything about this proposal apart from this thread, any fan who's team are not in the CL won't give a toss either.

If I'm understanding it right, BT's deal was 1,000,000,000 and 850,000,000 of that would just dissapear to be "re-allocated"? With that kind of money anyones can be bought and they will carry on doing whatever they want and paying whoever needs paying to get it done. Never gonna stop.

And yet the new guy at UEFA wants to tighten up FFP.

Guess who will be in the firing line for that again.

[Dameerto]

Fucking cunts

Incredible how blatant they are though, and nobody fucking questions it. Samuel is ploughing a lonely furrow, whilst the rest of the cunts on Fleet Street who moaned so much about FIFA and UEFA corruption yet on this particular aspect of corruption and fixing, we have newspapers who are actively choosing not to report certain elements of the news most likely because of their own clubs' interests - which for me ignoring news makes it nothing less than organised insitutional corruption.

Problem is the majority don't see it. I haven't seen or heard anything about this proposal apart from this thread, any fan who's team are not in the CL won't give a toss either.

If I'm understanding it right, BT's deal was 1,000,000,000 and 850,000,000 of that would just dissapear to be "re-allocated"? With that kind of money anyones can be bought and they will carry on doing whatever they want and paying whoever needs paying to get it done. Never gonna stop.

And yet the new guy at UEFA wants to tighten up FFP.

Guess who will be in the firing line for that again.

I'm pretty sure we're bullet proof as far as the old regulations go, which means they would have to rewrite their rules to try and hamper us again - so I guess we will probably see some new anti-City rules on the horizon at some point.

[iwasthere2012]

Fucking cunts

Incredible how blatant they are though, and nobody fucking questions it. Samuel is ploughing a lonely furrow, whilst the rest of the cunts on Fleet Street who moaned so much about FIFA and UEFA corruption yet on this particular aspect of corruption and fixing, we have newspapers who are actively choosing not to report certain elements of the news most likely because of their own clubs' interests - which for me ignoring news makes it nothing less than organised insitutional corruption.

Problem is the majority don't see it. I haven't seen or heard anything about this proposal apart from this thread, any fan who's team are not in the CL won't give a toss either.

If I'm understanding it right, BT's deal was 1,000,000,000 and 850,000,000 of that would just dissapear to be "re-allocated"? With that kind of money anyones can be bought and they will carry on doing whatever they want and paying whoever needs paying to get it done. Never gonna stop.

Yes but that's money that's disappearing out of the other prem teams coffers.
I would hope it is of concern to other supporters.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

It's sad that we are constantly having to fight these corrupt fuckers. I can see a day when Pep leaves that a few long-standing fans will fuck it off for good.

[iwasthere2012]

It's sad that we are constantly having to fight these corrupt fuckers. I can see a day when Pep leaves that a few long-standing fans will fuck it off for good.

I don't think I'll ever completely jack it in.
I can see a day after I've securely passed the baton on to my son and he can travel over on his own, that I may get jaded with the modern game and modern players and all that goes with them.
But can't see it happening while Pep is in charge.
This is shaping up to be what I've waited for all my City supporting life. I haven't enjoyed watching football so much, for many a long year. And every day is a school day. When you think you have the game figured out, it's like Pep rips up the rule book. I reckon he could put Kolarov in goal and nobody would be surprised or less confident.
I'm loving it at the moment.

[Cocacolajojo]

Honest question: Who's to say that City aren't in on this as well and even supporting it behind closed doors? Sure, in teh short term the club got a slap on teh wrist with FFP but in the long term, a closed shop is good for investment and would guarantee constant exposure for our owners and their brands through the CL. Which is why they bought the club in the first place no?

Not trying to be provocative, although I can see why this is might be a provocative post. Sorry in beforehand, just raising the issue.

[iwasthere2012]

Honest question: Who's to say that City aren't in on this as well and even supporting it behind closed doors? Sure, in teh short term the club got a slap on teh wrist with FFP but in the long term, a closed shop is good for investment and would guarantee constant exposure for our owners and their brands through the CL. Which is why they bought the club in the first place no?

Not trying to be provocative, although I can see why this is might be a provocative post. Sorry in beforehand, just raising the issue.

They may well be in as far as I'm sure they have a long term plan that caters for this eventuality.
Regardless of who is in on it, it's still wrong and will be the kind of thing that finishes a lot of people with the game.
As I've said in my previous post I can see some of us leaving it to a younger generation that will probably embrace all the modern trappings of football better than us that remeber pre-premier league.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Honest question: Who's to say that City aren't in on this as well and even supporting it behind closed doors? Sure, in teh short term the club got a slap on teh wrist with FFP but in the long term, a closed shop is good for investment and would guarantee constant exposure for our owners and their brands through the CL. Which is why they bought the club in the first place no?

Not trying to be provocative, although I can see why this is might be a provocative post. Sorry in beforehand, just raising the issue.

Interesting thought CCJJ and a little bit frightening too.

If this were the case, I think I'd feel very uneasy about it and it wouldn't sit very easily with me.

However, given the way that we've been pilloried by all and sundry, for the last few years since our owners took over, I'm not sure the 'established order' would now welcome us into their fold, only for us to ultimately and completely dominate it.....at least I don't think they would, but who knows ??

A very unsettling scenario for me.

[Wonderwall]

Honest question: Who's to say that City aren't in on this as well and even supporting it behind closed doors? Sure, in teh short term the club got a slap on teh wrist with FFP but in the long term, a closed shop is good for investment and would guarantee constant exposure for our owners and their brands through the CL. Which is why they bought the club in the first place no?

Not trying to be provocative, although I can see why this is might be a provocative post. Sorry in beforehand, just raising the issue.

They may well be in as far as I'm sure they have a long term plan that caters for this eventuality.
Regardless of who is in on it, it's still wrong and will be the kind of thing that finishes a lot of people with the game.
As I've said in my previous post I can see some of us leaving it to a younger generation that will probably embrace all the modern trappings of football better than us that remeber pre-premier league.

This +1

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

It's sad that we are constantly having to fight these corrupt fuckers. I can see a day when Pep leaves that a few long-standing fans will fuck it off for good.

I don't think I'll ever completely jack it in.
I can see a day after I've securely passed the baton on to my son and he can travel over on his own, that I may get jaded with the modern game and modern players and all that goes with them.
But can't see it happening while Pep is in charge.
This is shaping up to be what I've waited for all my City supporting life. I haven't enjoyed watching football so much, for many a long year. And every day is a school day. When you think you have the game figured out, it's like Pep rips up the rule book. I reckon he could put Kolarov in goal and nobody would be surprised or less confident.
I'm loving it at the moment.

Yeah, that's why I said after Pep leaves. No one in their right mind would knock it on the head at the moment. I wish we played every day it's that good.

[Cocacolajojo]

Honest question: Who's to say that City aren't in on this as well and even supporting it behind closed doors? Sure, in teh short term the club got a slap on teh wrist with FFP but in the long term, a closed shop is good for investment and would guarantee constant exposure for our owners and their brands through the CL. Which is why they bought the club in the first place no?

Not trying to be provocative, although I can see why this is might be a provocative post. Sorry in beforehand, just raising the issue.

They may well be in as far as I'm sure they have a long term plan that caters for this eventuality.
Regardless of who is in on it, it's still wrong and will be the kind of thing that finishes a lot of people with the game.
As I've said in my previous post I can see some of us leaving it to a younger generation that will probably embrace all the modern trappings of football better than us that remeber pre-premier league.

This +1

I also think that for people in the Americas, Africa and Asia, the politics behind matter little. At least for the average fan. Going to the game will matter less and less anyway because of VR and such.