Mase wrote:So since Pep has tried forcing Gundogen in to the team we don't look the same as we did the first few matches.
Not sure what Gundogen has done these last two-three matches to deserve starting, and I believe him being in the side messes up our balance and how quickly we break.
Put him on the bench for the good of the team!!!
Original Dub wrote:I think what pep is doing is trying to get everyone match fit and premier league acclimatised.
Only then will he know what his best team is.
I think we have a quality player in gundogan but he had a serious injury and needs game time because he had no preseason at all.
So it may not be a case of him unbalancing the side, so much as not reaching his true level yet.
Remember silva at the beginning?
He definitely needs to improve but I think he will.
failsworthblue wrote:He is a quality player and suffered a pretty horrific injury which must be on his mind , the premiership is an unforgiving place for midfielders and I think he still needs more time to get used to it.
Pep will sort him.
Nigels Tackle wrote:he's better than pogba
Sideshow Bob wrote:so ponderous and slow it's untrue. where is the player who used to run games for Dortmund???
zuricity wrote:Phew ! clutching at straws here, i think.
Two gifts st Spurs( Kola and Zabs),
Stones jumping in against Everton allowing the pass to get through ( and clichy not taking Lukaku out on the half way line)
Two penalty misses.
Ferdie's slip , Kev's bad pass, Stones's leaving the ball for the goalie,
The goalie bad pass and Red card.
Today, Stones's back pass.
Yeah , blame Gündogan for not being upto scratch yet.
Btw , haven't got to kün yet ....
Sideshow Bob wrote:so ponderous and slow it's untrue. where is the player who used to run games for Dortmund???
Mase wrote:zuricity wrote:Phew ! clutching at straws here, i think.
Two gifts st Spurs( Kola and Zabs),
Stones jumping in against Everton allowing the pass to get through ( and clichy not taking Lukaku out on the half way line)
Two penalty misses.
Ferdie's slip , Kev's bad pass, Stones's leaving the ball for the goalie,
The goalie bad pass and Red card.
Today, Stones's back pass.
Yeah , blame Gündogan for not being upto scratch yet.
Btw , haven't got to kün yet ....
So our whole play hasn't slowed down since he's been put in the team?
Like OD mentioned, the guys been out for so long now it will take him time to get up to speed. So that could be why he's slowing us down.
But we haven't looked the same since he's come in.
I don't think anyone has said the individual mistakes are his fault, unless I've missed that?
zuricity wrote:Sideshow Bob wrote:so ponderous and slow it's untrue. where is the player who used to run games for Dortmund???
Slow? He showed a great turn of speed to have the Barca goalie pull off a great reaction save to stop us equalising 1-1.
This really is a knee jerk thread.
zuricity wrote:Mase wrote:zuricity wrote:Phew ! clutching at straws here, i think.
Two gifts st Spurs( Kola and Zabs),
Stones jumping in against Everton allowing the pass to get through ( and clichy not taking Lukaku out on the half way line)
Two penalty misses.
Ferdie's slip , Kev's bad pass, Stones's leaving the ball for the goalie,
The goalie bad pass and Red card.
Today, Stones's back pass.
Yeah , blame Gündogan for not being upto scratch yet.
Btw , haven't got to kün yet ....
So our whole play hasn't slowed down since he's been put in the team?
Like OD mentioned, the guys been out for so long now it will take him time to get up to speed. So that could be why he's slowing us down.
But we haven't looked the same since he's come in.
I don't think anyone has said the individual mistakes are his fault, unless I've missed that?
We were parked for the most part of todays game around the Soton area, especially in the second half
How was he slowing that down ?
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