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FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:33 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
FIFA have just made an interesting decision, which might not be to some people's liking.

England and Scotland play each other on November 11th, Armistice Day, in a World Cup Qualifier.

Both Football Associations have asked FIFA for permission to wear poppy armbands for this game, but FIFA have refused, claiming it's a political statement.

I wonder if the two sides will wear the armbands, in disregard of FIFA's edict ??

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:36 pm
by john@staustell
This was in the news yesterday. They seem to think there's some plan to do it anyway for zero sanction, with FIFA's blessing. Don't ask me!

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:40 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
john@staustell wrote:This was in the news yesterday. They seem to think there's some plan to do it anyway for zero sanction, with FIFA's blessing. Don't ask me!


Thanks for that John.

I hadn't realised it was yesterday's news; I thought it had come out today.

Must have been distracted by other events yesterday............

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:01 pm
by nottsblue
Hope they all wear a poppy on the front of their shirts. It's decisions like this, to ban the wearing of a poppy on some bullshit pretext about political statements that alienate so many people. The person who ultimately sanctioned this decision is in the wrong job and probably needs to re-evaluate their priorities in life

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:08 pm
by BookJunior
I don't see why both sides can't have a poppy incorporated into the shirt design.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:50 pm
by Hazy2
Where the poppies get fined gibe it to the British Legions and other charities from all nations who lost loved one's. MAFIFA Needs to be broken up and replaced.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:07 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
Hazy2 wrote:Where the poppies get fined gibe it to the British Legions and other charities from all nations who lost loved one's. MAFIFA Needs to be broken up and replaced.


Fantastic :D

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:05 pm
by Dameerto
The FA's should take it to ACAS to get a ruling on whether poppies are a political statement - in the context of football shirts and remembering the dead obviously they're not.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:05 pm
by BookJunior
Hazy2 wrote:Where the poppies get fined gibe it to the British Legions and other charities from all nations who lost loved one's. MAFIFA Needs to be broken up and replaced.



I quite agree. Corrupt to their very core.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:01 pm
by Hazy2
Hazy2 wrote:Wear the poppies get fined gve it to the British Legion and other charities from all nations who lost loved one's. MAFIFA Needs to be broken up and replaced.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:04 pm
by patrickblue
Seems that they were fine with the Republic of Ireland having a slogan on their shirts commemorating the centenary of the Easter rising.
I've no problem with that, but it's double standards.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37853386

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:28 pm
by Mase
Would be interesting to get the opinions of people that aren't English on this.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:29 pm
by johnny crossan
Mase wrote:Would be interesting to get the opinions of people that aren't English on this.

they don't count

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:38 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Have FIFA issued an official statement on this?

I've no issue with people wearing the poppy but there are many that interpret it as propaganda and as a result it's interpreted as political.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:43 pm
by Dameerto
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Have FIFA issued an official statement on this?

I've no issue with people wearing the poppy but there are many that interpret it as propaganda and as a result it's interpreted as political.

FIFA haven't got a leg to stand on if they sanctioned the 1916 uprising shirt. Either they're both fine to wear or neither.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:43 pm
by Mase
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Have FIFA issued an official statement on this?

I've no issue with people wearing the poppy but there are many that interpret it as propaganda and as a result it's interpreted as political.


This.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:44 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Dameerto wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Have FIFA issued an official statement on this?

I've no issue with people wearing the poppy but there are many that interpret it as propaganda and as a result it's interpreted as political.

FIFA haven't got a leg to stand on if they sanctioned the 1916 uprising shirt. Either they're both fine to wear or neither.


Completely agree but have they actually said officially that the poppy can't be worn?

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:57 pm
by Dameerto
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Have FIFA issued an official statement on this?

I've no issue with people wearing the poppy but there are many that interpret it as propaganda and as a result it's interpreted as political.

FIFA haven't got a leg to stand on if they sanctioned the 1916 uprising shirt. Either they're both fine to wear or neither.


Completely agree but have they actually said officially that the poppy can't be worn?

The General Secretary is directly quoted by the BBC as threatening 'any kind of sanction' so yes.
It's a case of ongoing prejudice against 'Britain' by certain elements within FIFA and highlights yet again a lack of transparency (and consistency) of decision making.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:58 pm
by johnny crossan
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Have FIFA issued an official statement on this?

I've no issue with people wearing the poppy but there are many that interpret it as propaganda and as a result it's interpreted as political.

FIFA General Secretary on the BBC said they wouldn't like it in Syria, the dead British from their war with us are regarded as a triumph, similarly the Irish etc.
These chaps don't believe that it is worn a symbol of remembrance for lives lost in conflict but rather as a celebration of British wars, which is pity because they've got it wrong.

Re: FIFA's November 11th decision

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:33 am
by iwasthere2012
I say just go for it and fuck them.
I know McClean(I think) chose not to wear it a couple of years back and that's fine with me. Individual choice and all that.
But maybe I have this all wrong, but is the poppy not worn in commemoration of all those that have fallen in battle in WW2.

Why the hell would anyone object to that.

It should not be forgotten. To hell with UEFA. Just do it.