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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby Dimples » Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:25 am

Dubciteh wrote:
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PeterParker wrote:But what are our options with Halaand never happening?
Who can we get these days, winter, next summer?


Kane was our target. We missed.
We do what we always do, don't panic and spunk money, go back to the drawing board, do due diligence, get someone who fits with right age profile, etc...

Anyone who thinks this is an incorrect approach then think Sanchez, DiMaria, Martial, DeBeek, Depay and how long has it been since the Rags won some silverware.


What about when we got diaz instead of koudibally? Surely we have a second choice, surely all our eggs werent in one difficult basket? We have had a year to plan for this. What about left back? Whats the excuse for 4 years of neglect? We seem to think we have perfect transfer strategy. We are from it.


Yep Diaz was not first choice and we had a plan B, etc... But the situation was critical. We were leaking soft goals. They had to resolve so had alternatives lined up.

There is not a suitable alternative to Kane that we can get. I assume that is why we put all our eggs in one basket. Also, the situation is not critical like the Diaz situation. We score plenty of goals but miss sitters. We won PL last season and got to CL final. So I guess they reckon we can survive until we id a new fit.
Re LB. Same as CF position. We can get by. Not ideal but not critical. I reckon to hey are waiting on the Portuguese kid to become available at a reasonable fee.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby City64 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:38 am

Regarding City buying a striker it becomes so much easier in January…….. Kane will be available at half the price bell end Levy wanted this summer and we seemingly have a free run for Haaland in January also according to ITK MCFC journos.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby nottsblue » Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:42 am

Dimples wrote:
PeterParker wrote:But what are our options with Halaand never happening?
Who can we get these days, winter, next summer?


Kane was our target. We missed.
We do what we always do, don't panic and spunk money, go back to the drawing board, do due diligence, get someone who fits with right age profile, etc...

Anyone who thinks this is an incorrect approach then think Sanchez, DiMaria, Martial, DeBeek, Depay and how long has it been since the Rags won some silverware.

Absolutely spot on. And though we in theory should have a back up plan, by that very nature it's a player who we deemed not good enough at the outset. Forwards are different to defenders and midfielders in that most teams, ourselves included, usually only play one of them whereas we play four of the former. Thus the choice of forward needs to be the correct one.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby branny » Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:07 pm

Dimples wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:
Dimples wrote:
PeterParker wrote:But what are our options with Halaand never happening?
Who can we get these days, winter, next summer?


Kane was our target. We missed.
We do what we always do, don't panic and spunk money, go back to the drawing board, do due diligence, get someone who fits with right age profile, etc...

Anyone who thinks this is an incorrect approach then think Sanchez, DiMaria, Martial, DeBeek, Depay and how long has it been since the Rags won some silverware.


What about when we got diaz instead of koudibally? Surely we have a second choice, surely all our eggs werent in one difficult basket? We have had a year to plan for this. What about left back? Whats the excuse for 4 years of neglect? We seem to think we have perfect transfer strategy. We are from it.


Yep Diaz was not first choice and we had a plan B, etc... But the situation was critical. We were leaking soft goals. They had to resolve so had alternatives lined up.

There is not a suitable alternative to Kane that we can get. I assume that is why we put all our eggs in one basket. Also, the situation is not critical like the Diaz situation. We score plenty of goals but miss sitters. We won PL last season and got to CL final. So I guess they reckon we can survive until we id a new fit.
Re LB. Same as CF position. We can get by. Not ideal but not critical. I reckon to hey are waiting on the Portuguese kid to become available at a reasonable fee.


Mendes signed a new contract in December which increased his buyout to £60m. It's a lot of money to throw at a teenager with around 40 first team games under his belt. I heard that we wanted to see how he goes this season before spending that kind of money on him. He'll still only be 20 if we sign him next summer.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby PeterParker » Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:16 pm

But we could have signed Bertrand for free for a year.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby nottsblue » Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:45 pm

PeterParker wrote:But we could have signed Bertrand for free for a year.

And why would we do that? He isn’t good enough for us. It’s as simple as that. Once we start buying players out of panic or desperation then it’s a very slippery slope. Is he really that much better than Zinchenko? IMO he is not
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:18 pm

sheblue wrote:I see lots taking about Bernardo about how upset he was yesterday, it's his last game and all of that talk.
I dont know if he is going or not, but isn't Mendy a good mate of his, maybe that is upsetting and has had some sort of impact on him.
Just a thought.
The MUEN's newbie 'fan brand writer' Alex Brotherton now talking about this
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"Bernardo Silva 'happiness' key as Man City look to complete deadline day sales"
"City aren't expected to make any new signings over the next 36 hours, although a number of players could walk out the door."
If these predictions come about - are we really going to start the season with so many key positions uncovered?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... s-21434809
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby branny » Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:35 pm

nottsblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:But we could have signed Bertrand for free for a year.

And why would we do that? He isn’t good enough for us. It’s as simple as that. Once we start buying players out of panic or desperation then it’s a very slippery slope. Is he really that much better than Zinchenko? IMO he is not


Herein lies the problem. The pool of players that would improve us is very small. Zinchenko is still our best option at lb and was integral to us getting through the PSG tie last season and that's good enough for me. It's when he's rotated we have a problem. Pep has to manage that and make sure he is at his optimum for the big games.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby nottsblue » Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:01 pm

branny wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:But we could have signed Bertrand for free for a year.

And why would we do that? He isn’t good enough for us. It’s as simple as that. Once we start buying players out of panic or desperation then it’s a very slippery slope. Is he really that much better than Zinchenko? IMO he is not


Herein lies the problem. The pool of players that would improve us is very small. Zinchenko is still our best option at lb and was integral to us getting through the PSG tie last season and that's good enough for me. It's when he's rotated we have a problem. Pep has to manage that and make sure he is at his optimum for the big games.

Zinch to me seems the type of player who responds well to a run in the side and the confidence that brings. Maybe with Mendy out of the equation, if Pep was to have a quiet word and say "you're my first choice full back for me now. You will play a run of games, take this chance, dont fuck it up and make yourself my left back for next season as well" it might give the lad the impetus he needs
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby PeterParker » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:42 pm

nottsblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:But we could have signed Bertrand for free for a year.

And why would we do that? He isn’t good enough for us. It’s as simple as that. Once we start buying players out of panic or desperation then it’s a very slippery slope. Is he really that much better than Zinchenko? IMO he is not


Because is better to have a back-up than no back-up.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:02 pm

nottsblue wrote:
branny wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:But we could have signed Bertrand for free for a year.

And why would we do that? He isn’t good enough for us. It’s as simple as that. Once we start buying players out of panic or desperation then it’s a very slippery slope. Is he really that much better than Zinchenko? IMO he is not


Herein lies the problem. The pool of players that would improve us is very small. Zinchenko is still our best option at lb and was integral to us getting through the PSG tie last season and that's good enough for me. It's when he's rotated we have a problem. Pep has to manage that and make sure he is at his optimum for the big games.

Zinch to me seems the type of player who responds well to a run in the side and the confidence that brings. Maybe with Mendy out of the equation, if Pep was to have a quiet word and say "you're my first choice full back for me now. You will play a run of games, take this chance, dont fuck it up and make yourself my left back for next season as well" it might give the lad the impetus he needs

Totally agree, give the lad a chance to make it his own position, I think he has the intelligence and ability to do that.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby Dubciteh » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:51 pm

PeterParker wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:But we could have signed Bertrand for free for a year.

And why would we do that? He isn’t good enough for us. It’s as simple as that. Once we start buying players out of panic or desperation then it’s a very slippery slope. Is he really that much better than Zinchenko? IMO he is not


Because is better to have a back-up than no back-up.


And betrand is a better left back than zinchenko. Zinchenko gets away with it for us because he is surrounded by quality. Not having a pop at him because i like him but if he played for anyone else he wouldn’t look good at left back. There is a reason every team target us down that side. Its not his fault he isnt a left back. He can do a job there but a specialist left back he isnt. Bertrand as left backs go is better than him. He’s played there all his professional career and been quite decent. Also has a champions league winners medal from actually playing in a final which not many have.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:15 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
sheblue wrote:I see lots taking about Bernardo about how upset he was yesterday, it's his last game and all of that talk.
I dont know if he is going or not, but isn't Mendy a good mate of his, maybe that is upsetting and has had some sort of impact on him.
Just a thought.
The MUEN's newbie 'fan brand writer' Alex Brotherton now talking about this
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"Bernardo Silva 'happiness' key as Man City look to complete deadline day sales"
"City aren't expected to make any new signings over the next 36 hours, although a number of players could walk out the door."
If these predictions come about - are we really going to start the season with so many key positions uncovered?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... s-21434809

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https://sempremilan.com/times-sport-e70 ... nted-offer
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby CTID Hants » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:34 pm

johnny crossan wrote:not moving according to this
https://sempremilan.com/times-sport-e70 ... nted-offer


Bernardo wasn't interested? at one point was Bernardo quoted by his own tongue as wanting out? Or like everything that has been in the media this summer that was taken as gospel turned out as utter bullshit?

Kane, we were interested but never made an offer because Levy wanted too much and he made it clear he wouldn't back down.

Tranny, we didn't offer a bid so Juventus tell us.

Can anyone tell me at one point Bernardo said he wanted out in his own words, not 'Pep said a few wanted to go'?
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby Mase » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:55 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:not moving according to this
https://sempremilan.com/times-sport-e70 ... nted-offer


Bernardo wasn't interested? at one point was Bernardo quoted by his own tongue as wanting out? Or like everything that has been in the media this summer that was taken as gospel turned out as utter bullshit?

Kane, we were interested but never made an offer because Levy wanted too much and he made it clear he wouldn't back down.

Tranny, we didn't offer a bid so Juventus tell us.

Can anyone tell me at one point Bernardo said he wanted out in his own words, not 'Pep said a few wanted to go'?


Pep confirmed it a few weeks ago mate. “Not just Bernardo, there are two, three or four players that want to leave…”
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby CTID Hants » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:58 pm

Mase wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:not moving according to this
https://sempremilan.com/times-sport-e70 ... nted-offer


Bernardo wasn't interested? at one point was Bernardo quoted by his own tongue as wanting out? Or like everything that has been in the media this summer that was taken as gospel turned out as utter bullshit?

Kane, we were interested but never made an offer because Levy wanted too much and he made it clear he wouldn't back down.

Tranny, we didn't offer a bid so Juventus tell us.

Can anyone tell me at one point Bernardo said he wanted out in his own words, not 'Pep said a few wanted to go'?


Pep confirmed it a few weeks ago mate. “Not just Bernardo, there are two, three or four players that want to leave…”



Fair enough, but his performance on Saturday indicated a change of heart? I really don't want him to be a passenger, I like the lad.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby Mase » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:00 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
Mase wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:not moving according to this
https://sempremilan.com/times-sport-e70 ... nted-offer


Bernardo wasn't interested? at one point was Bernardo quoted by his own tongue as wanting out? Or like everything that has been in the media this summer that was taken as gospel turned out as utter bullshit?

Kane, we were interested but never made an offer because Levy wanted too much and he made it clear he wouldn't back down.

Tranny, we didn't offer a bid so Juventus tell us.

Can anyone tell me at one point Bernardo said he wanted out in his own words, not 'Pep said a few wanted to go'?


Pep confirmed it a few weeks ago mate. “Not just Bernardo, there are two, three or four players that want to leave…”



Fair enough, but his performance on Saturday indicated a change of heart? I really don't want him to be a passenger, I like the lad.


Honestly, I’d love to know why he wants out. The Together doc he was smiling all the time and having a laugh with everyone. A few days ago he was praising Pep. He’s got fellow countrymen in Dias and Cancelo here. I love him.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby salford city » Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:39 am

Celina has signed for Ipswich from Dijon. I didn't know he had left swansea.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby PeterParker » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:15 am

I think we need to stop listening at what Baldie is saying. From big things can happen to I want to go on a break or xxx and yyy are such big clubs or this and that want to leave.

He is just confusing.
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Re: Transfer rumours

Postby johnny crossan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:29 am

My take is this means Laporte is staying if it happens

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