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Dubciteh wrote:

Mase wrote:Just reading that Tommy Doyle and Taylor H-B might be cancelling their loans to move to other clubs in Jan, again on loan.

Any idea why? I know doyle wasnt playing so makes sense but HB looks to have been playing. Worrying for both of them, cant see any making it with us altho i had hopes for HB.

I’m not sure with HB. It is the MEN so it could be wrong to be fair. But looking at it HB hasn’t played anywhere near a full 90 mins since 7th Nov. He’s played a total of 11 minutes since then.

Looks like Chris Wood joins Newcastle.
Odd one.

PeterParker wrote:Looks like Chris Wood joins Newcastle.
Odd one.

Even more odd - they’re paying £20m for him!!!!!

Mase wrote:

PeterParker wrote:Looks like Chris Wood joins Newcastle.
Odd one.

Even more odd - they’re paying £20m for him!!!!!

They had to if they wanted him, that was his release clause

stupot wrote:

Mase wrote:

PeterParker wrote:Looks like Chris Wood joins Newcastle.
Odd one.

Even more odd - they’re paying £20m for him!!!!!

They had to if they wanted him, that was his release clause

I know yeah. £20m for a 30 year old that is a Championship striker at best. Surely there’s better out there for £20m?

Ahhh, he has the same agent as Trippier. Makes sense.

Mase wrote:

Dubciteh wrote:

Mase wrote:Just reading that Tommy Doyle and Taylor H-B might be cancelling their loans to move to other clubs in Jan, again on loan.

Any idea why? I know doyle wasnt playing so makes sense but HB looks to have been playing. Worrying for both of them, cant see any making it with us altho i had hopes for HB.

I’m not sure with HB. It is the MEN so it could be wrong to be fair. But looking at it HB hasn’t played anywhere near a full 90 mins since 7th Nov. He’s played a total of 11 minutes since then.

HB signs for Stoke on loan until the end of the season. Hope we get a decent fee in the summer, he can’t have a future here now

I’m not sure, notts. He is still only 19 so he has got time on his side. Id like to see how he does at Stoke first before I write him off.

Tokyo Blue wrote:I’m not sure, notts. He is still only 19 so he has got time on his side. Id like to see how he does at Stoke first before I write him off.

More based on the guys that gave been in and around the first team in the past and present have rarely done so after going on loan. It is incredibly hard to get in our first team set up and it seems decisions are made fairly early on in the Academy as to whether the management think a player will make it with us or whether we look to move them on.

Sounds very harsh and a bit too business like for my personal liking and of course as it's only my personal perception I could very wrong.

Tokyo Blue wrote:I’m not sure, notts. He is still only 19 so he has got time on his side. Id like to see how he does at Stoke first before I write him off.

He did well at Rovers last season and they wanted him back. He chose to go where Kompany is and you can see why he’d do that.

nottsblue wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:I’m not sure, notts. He is still only 19 so he has got time on his side. Id like to see how he does at Stoke first before I write him off.

More based on the guys that gave been in and around the first team in the past and present have rarely done so after going on loan. It is incredibly hard to get in our first team set up and it seems decisions are made fairly early on in the Academy as to whether the management think a player will make it with us or whether we look to move them on.

Sounds very harsh and a bit too business like for my personal liking and of course as it's only my personal perception I could very wrong.

I agree - looks like Mbete has the first team slot for now. It's becoming apparent that Pep tends to keep people around he wants to use in the first team.

That said Mbete may be included just because of illnesses and injuries - what do we know?

I am gutted Doyle is coming back. A big sign, if you ask me, he is not going to make it.
Hamburg was a perfect place to develop and get game time.

PeterParker wrote:I am gutted Doyle is coming back. A big sign, if you ask me, he is not going to make it.
Hamburg was a perfect place to develop and get game time.

From the little I've read, he wasn't getting the game time? Perhaps he will go out again to the championship as he is talented. We need to be looking at cover for Rodders but I don't see Tommy in that role and now he has Palmer and Mcatee ahead of him for attacking midfield options

salford city wrote:

PeterParker wrote:I am gutted Doyle is coming back. A big sign, if you ask me, he is not going to make it.
Hamburg was a perfect place to develop and get game time.

From the little I've read, he wasn't getting the game time? Perhaps he will go out again to the championship as he is talented. We need to be looking at cover for Rodders but I don't see Tommy in that role and now he has Palmer and Mcatee ahead of him for attacking midfield options

Maybe that lad from Borussia M we were linked a few times? He is gonna be free in the summer.

It’s £25m for Chris Wood!!! Crazy. Just spend that much buying a Championship guy, like the Blackburn player, and take a gamble. Rather than someone who has scored three goals this season.

Mase wrote:It’s £25m for Chris Wood!!! Crazy. Just spend that much buying a Championship guy, like the Blackburn player, and take a gamble. Rather than someone who has scored three goals this season.

Think he will do ok there. He isn't a mug. Hes scored something like the 13th most PL goals over the last four or five years and this was playing for Burnley who aren't renowned for their attacking tactics.

He will slot right in as he knows the PL and the physicality of it. For comparison a young lad at a French club who is 19 and has scored 8 goals in a far inferior league is being touted at £30m. How many of these types of players have sunk without a trace over the years? Loads I reckon

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:It’s £25m for Chris Wood!!! Crazy. Just spend that much buying a Championship guy, like the Blackburn player, and take a gamble. Rather than someone who has scored three goals this season.

Think he will do ok there. He isn't a mug. Hes scored something like the 13th most PL goals over the last four or five years and this was playing for Burnley who aren't renowned for their attacking tactics.

He will slot right in as he knows the PL and the physicality of it. For comparison a young lad at a French club who is 19 and has scored 8 goals in a far inferior league is being touted at £30m. How many of these types of players have sunk without a trace over the years? Loads I reckon

I still think it’s mental money on someone that will be 31 this year and that is very one dimensional. They’ll literally need to just throw balls into the box and not go through ASM. Seems weird to change your style of play for one player that isn’t very good.

Mase wrote:

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:It’s £25m for Chris Wood!!! Crazy. Just spend that much buying a Championship guy, like the Blackburn player, and take a gamble. Rather than someone who has scored three goals this season.

Think he will do ok there. He isn't a mug. Hes scored something like the 13th most PL goals over the last four or five years and this was playing for Burnley who aren't renowned for their attacking tactics.

He will slot right in as he knows the PL and the physicality of it. For comparison a young lad at a French club who is 19 and has scored 8 goals in a far inferior league is being touted at £30m. How many of these types of players have sunk without a trace over the years? Loads I reckon

I still think it’s mental money on someone that will be 31 this year and that is very one dimensional. They’ll literally need to just throw balls into the box and not go through ASM. Seems weird to change your style of play for one player that isn’t very good.

It is a risk, no doubt about it. But they have their two forwards sidelined for a while and their next three games are Watford, Leeds and Everton. Three teams who are in their immediate vicinity and if they lose those three it would be incredibly difficult to avoid relegation which financially would be catastrophic.

It is most probably a very short term signing with the hope he scores goals to keep them up. After that he will either be a squad player or be moved on as Newcastle splash the cash again. I totally get why they have done it

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:It’s £25m for Chris Wood!!! Crazy. Just spend that much buying a Championship guy, like the Blackburn player, and take a gamble. Rather than someone who has scored three goals this season.

Think he will do ok there. He isn't a mug. Hes scored something like the 13th most PL goals over the last four or five years and this was playing for Burnley who aren't renowned for their attacking tactics.

He will slot right in as he knows the PL and the physicality of it. For comparison a young lad at a French club who is 19 and has scored 8 goals in a far inferior league is being touted at £30m. How many of these types of players have sunk without a trace over the years? Loads I reckon

I still think it’s mental money on someone that will be 31 this year and that is very one dimensional. They’ll literally need to just throw balls into the box and not go through ASM. Seems weird to change your style of play for one player that isn’t very good.

It is a risk, no doubt about it. But they have their two forwards sidelined for a while and their next three games are Watford, Leeds and Everton. Three teams who are in their immediate vicinity and if they lose those three it would be incredibly difficult to avoid relegation which financially would be catastrophic.

It is most probably a very short term signing with the hope he scores goals to keep them up. After that he will either be a squad player or be moved on as Newcastle splash the cash again. I totally get why they have done it

What I find odd is that Newcastle looked like they are linked with only unknown players. Football players, in their definition, are money-grabbing mercenaries, can't understand why. Either they keep it super-secret, or they have a real problem on their hands.

I wonder if they have problems with clubs close to the cartels that refuse to talk with them, or even players.
We really got one of the most exciting players of that year, to be fair, in Robinho.

Odd.

PeterParker wrote:

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:It’s £25m for Chris Wood!!! Crazy. Just spend that much buying a Championship guy, like the Blackburn player, and take a gamble. Rather than someone who has scored three goals this season.

Think he will do ok there. He isn't a mug. Hes scored something like the 13th most PL goals over the last four or five years and this was playing for Burnley who aren't renowned for their attacking tactics.

He will slot right in as he knows the PL and the physicality of it. For comparison a young lad at a French club who is 19 and has scored 8 goals in a far inferior league is being touted at £30m. How many of these types of players have sunk without a trace over the years? Loads I reckon

I still think it’s mental money on someone that will be 31 this year and that is very one dimensional. They’ll literally need to just throw balls into the box and not go through ASM. Seems weird to change your style of play for one player that isn’t very good.

It is a risk, no doubt about it. But they have their two forwards sidelined for a while and their next three games are Watford, Leeds and Everton. Three teams who are in their immediate vicinity and if they lose those three it would be incredibly difficult to avoid relegation which financially would be catastrophic.

It is most probably a very short term signing with the hope he scores goals to keep them up. After that he will either be a squad player or be moved on as Newcastle splash the cash again. I totally get why they have done it

What I find odd is that Newcastle looked like they are linked with only unknown players. Football players, in their definition, are money-grabbing mercenaries, can't understand why. Either they keep it super-secret, or they have a real problem on their hands.

I wonder if they have problems with clubs close to the cartels that refuse to talk with them, or even players.
We really got one of the most exciting players of that year, to be fair, in Robinho.

Odd.

They will be very limited in who will want to come at this stage as well with relegation a very real threat. European competition participation at this moment is a long long way off.