Relegation. Who is for the drop?

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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed May 10, 2017 9:03 am

nottsblue wrote:Sunderland and now Middlesboro confirmed. Hope Hull are the third. Anyone who appoints Phelan as their manager deserves all they get


Sound reasoning mate, however I want them to beat the drop so the crackhead and Thompson will be made eat their words.

I know it's unlikely but I'd like to see Palace go down.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby nottsblue » Sun May 14, 2017 11:59 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
nottsblue wrote:Sunderland and now Middlesboro confirmed. Hope Hull are the third. Anyone who appoints Phelan as their manager deserves all they get


Sound reasoning mate, however I want them to beat the drop so the crackhead and Thompson will be made eat their words.

I know it's unlikely but I'd like to see Palace go down.

Highly unlikely now. Palace 2-0 up v Hull and unless Hull can magic a couple of goals they are down.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby nottsblue » Sun May 14, 2017 12:58 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
nottsblue wrote:Sunderland and now Middlesboro confirmed. Hope Hull are the third. Anyone who appoints Phelan as their manager deserves all they get


Sound reasoning mate, however I want them to beat the drop so the crackhead and Thompson will be made eat their words.

I know it's unlikely but I'd like to see Palace go down.

Highly unlikely now. Palace 2-0 up v Hull and unless Hull can magic a couple of goals they are down.

Down with a 4-0 drubbing.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby johnny crossan » Mon May 15, 2017 7:29 am

The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 17, 2017 7:32 am

johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.


You're right about the east coast JC.

Northumberland, in particular, is wild, windswept and dangerous.......and that's just the women there.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby nottsblue » Wed May 17, 2017 9:47 am

johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby johnny crossan » Wed May 17, 2017 9:53 am

nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby nottsblue » Wed May 17, 2017 10:36 am

johnny crossan wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html

Thanks for that JC. Very interesting reading the old tables. One thing that leaps out is how much home advantage played back then. I guess the travelling was much more arduous back then and in particular Sunderland had a phenomenal home record in part I guess due to the distance a lot of the teams in the division had to travel to get there.

Noticeable too how very few Southern teams there were back then
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 17, 2017 11:48 am

nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html

Thanks for that JC. Very interesting reading the old tables. One thing that leaps out is how much home advantage played back then. I guess the travelling was much more arduous back then and in particular Sunderland had a phenomenal home record in part I guess due to the distance a lot of the teams in the division had to travel to get there.

Noticeable too how very few Southern teams there were back then


Those tables certainly were interesting and I really enjoyed perusing them, so thanks for posting JC.

One slightly amusing aspect, between the years 1900 to 1915, was looking at the teams who were relegated and comparing them with their current standing in the PL :- Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs all suffered this 'fate' in this period of time.

City, however, couldn't be outdone in that Department and we were relegated twice.......typical. :roll:

Talking of Sunderland, a little later than this though, in the inter-war period, I seem to recall that they were regarded as being quite wealthy, so much so that I think they were dubbed, at one point, the 'Bank of England Club', although I don't know what the basis of this was.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 17, 2017 12:26 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html


Just as a sad thought, with regard to east coast teams, I always feel a bit sorry for Berwick Rangers fans.

They're a club in England but all their supporters only have a load of moth-eaten Scottish teams to watch, playing against their own side.

Can't be much fun at all.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby bigblue » Wed May 17, 2017 12:28 pm

johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.


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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed May 17, 2017 2:02 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html

Norwich? On the coast?
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 17, 2017 3:25 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html

Norwich? On the coast?


It probably was 800 years ago.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby nottsblue » Wed May 17, 2017 3:34 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html

Norwich? On the coast?


It probably was 800 years ago.

Is that why some Norwich folk have webbed feet?
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 17, 2017 3:38 pm

^^^^

Brilliant !!
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby BlueinBosnia » Wed May 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:The east coast was always a barren place and now more so in terms of top flight football as well. The barcodes had better hang in there otherwise there'll be none at all for the first time since 1890.

Is that true that there's always been a north east representative in the top flight since 1890? Surprised at that to be honest

Not just the north-east - all of the east coast. Sunderland joined the top flight a couple of years after the league was formed and stayed there, being joined by the likes of the Newcastle, Grimsby, Boro. Hull, Ipswich & Norwich later on.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Football ... 14-15.html

Norwich? On the coast?


It probably was 800 years ago.


Nope - it was a major trading town during Anglo-Saxon times, but still inland back then. You'd have to go back pretty deep into prehistory to put Norwich on the coast - well before the settlement was founded.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 17, 2017 4:51 pm

Wensum body (sorry abouut the pun :roll: ) knows more about a subject than you do, you do a bit of research.

It looks as though it's unlikely Norwich was ever on the coast and that the coastline was a lot further out to sea, especially in Mesolithic times.

Well done to you BiB for correcting a jokey, throw-away line.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby johnny crossan » Wed May 17, 2017 4:51 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:Norwich? On the coast?

It probably was 800 years ago.

Nope - it was a major trading town during Anglo-Saxon times, but still inland back then. You'd have to go back pretty deep into prehistory to put Norwich on the coast - well before the settlement was founded.


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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed May 17, 2017 5:59 pm

21 miles on the A47 from Norwich to the nearest beach at Great Yarmouth, JC.
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Re: Relegation. Who is for the drop?

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed May 17, 2017 6:03 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Wensum body (sorry abouut the pun :roll: ) knows more about a subject than you do, you do a bit of research.

It looks as though it's unlikely Norwich was ever on the coast and that the coastline was a lot further out to sea, especially in Mesolithic times.

Well done to you BiB for correcting a jokey, throw-away line.


I thought that was rather good, actually. Brought a smile to my face.
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