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The PFA Disrespect of Man City's greats is a line crossed

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:06 pm

And yet there is no bias anywhere where Man City is concerned.



The PFA’s disrespect of Manchester City greats is a line crossed

by Stephen Tudor

As a Manchester City supporting blogger I have written several times previously on the far-reaching resentment that has accompanied their rise.

This resentment has manifested itself in many forms, namely widespread and pernicious bias in the media (two examples being the recent witch-hunt of Raheem Sterling and BT Sport’s bizarrely negative coverage of City in the Champions League in 2015/16 that resulted in thousands of Blues cancelling their subscription), to pub-bores spouting off about how the club has ‘ruined football’ with its spending.

More consequentially there have also unquestionably been decisions made at the highest levels specifically designed to quash any potential usurping of the established elite. I’m looking at you FFP and UEFA matchday officials.

The articles have led to both positive feedback and cynical scorn but chiefly what I have learned from writing them is that, no matter how hard I strive to structure a cohesive argument and mix persuasive facts with opinion, one of the first comments in the box below will always name-check that apparel of the paranoid a tin-hat. Which is fair enough I suppose, if a little unfair.



It is unfair because fundamentally I do not believe that the whole world woke up in the middle of the night while City fans and club employees slept and devised a convoluted plot to undermine its post-takeover progress. Fundamentally what I believe is far more plausible than that, indeed almost inevitable in hindsight: that from being an underachieving, entertaining ‘second club’ to many, liked for their self-afflicted calamities, they have now come to represent an era where money rules the roost.

Among neutrals and rivals alike they have become deeply unpopular and though the level of that unpopularity may perhaps still be lower than that reserved for Manchester United, it is not balanced out with the respect that is afforded the red half of the city for its trophy hauls and global prestige. So sometimes then, it follows, a line is crossed.

This week the PFA Player’s Player of the Year nominees were announced with David Silva a surprising omission. Throughout 2016/17 the Spanish little genius has once again been consistently exceptional, garnering superlatives and astonished praise from all who have witnessed his expert string-pulling, and once again he has been over-looked, this time in favour of a player in Alexis Sanchez who has essentially gone On strike for the latter half of the season.


If viewed in isolation, Silva’s absence is not cause enough to cry bias. After all, the shortlist is entirely subjective and one man’s supernaturally gifted and influential midfielder is another man’s Romelu Lukaku (another nominee) flat-track bullying Sunderland and Bournemouth before vanishing from sight against any top six side.

But it is fair to say that the PFA awards have hardly been known to justly credit Manchester City since their rise to prominence in recent years. It’s fair to say, in fact, that a pattern of disrespect and oversight has emerged.

For proof of this we need only look at the esteemed list of strikers who have made the PFA Team of the Year for the last five seasons: Van Persie (twice), Rooney, Suarez (twice), Sturridge, Costa, Kane (twice), Vardy. However you pair them up, that’s a strike-force guaranteed to put the fear of God into any back-line going.

But wait, because isn’t there a startling omission here, a forward who has scored 102 goals in that time (averaging over 20 a season) with a deadly prolificacy that has seen him regularly mentioned in the same breath as the world’s absolute elite superstars? That’s right: Sergio Aguero has never been included since joining from Atletico Madrid and becoming City’s third highest all-time goal-scorer in a relative blink of an eye.

What about the managers? Surely Roberto Mancini was suitably rewarded for guiding City to their title win in 2011/12, a campaign so momentous that it shook the planet to its core? I mean it was the club’s first league championship in 44 years. And while we’re at it, surely Manuel Pellegrini was rightfully lauded too for winning a Premier League and League Cup double in his first year in England? After all, title-winning managers are always the ones lazily chosen by their voting peers aren’t they?



Well usually yes, that is the case. But since the award was founded in 1994 there have been four occasions when other coaches were recognised. Two of them, coincidentally, occurred in City’s league winning seasons with Alan Pardew acknowledged in 2012 for steering Newcastle to a Europa League spot and Tony Pulis topping his colleagues in 2014 because his Stoke side finished ninth. Really, I’m not making this up.

When the individual accolades are assessed it gets even weirder. Since 2012 City have seen only one of their talents nominated (Yaya Toure in 2014) despite boasting a multitude of players who have consistently performed at a level that can best be described with some hefty under-statement as utterly outstanding. No Hart, no Kompany, no Silva, no Aguero, from the 36 nominees since City’s first Premier League title triumph. It begs the question: what more do they have to do? When that question cannot reasonably be answered the follow-up is unnerving: does it even matter what they do?

It has been said in some quarters that this string of disrespectful oversights is down to southern bias, but that doesn’t account for several United players being included. Liverpool too. It’s being said by me now that it’s directly a result of City having outsider status even among the football fraternity.

They’re just not very popular and sometimes the line of acceptability that comes from that is crossed. City’s puzzling lack of credit from the PFA awards is certainly an example of this.

The authorities, rival clubs, and rival players cannot stop Manchester City from winning silverware. But when voting is involved they can and they will.

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Postby Sparklehorse » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:21 pm

Ha ...Brilliant !!!
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Re: The PFA Disrespect of Man City's greats is a line crosse

Postby Justified logic » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:41 am

Good article, except that final para, where I think Mr Tudor's restraint finally went.
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Postby fangsanalsatan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:17 am

Justified logic wrote:Good article, except that final para, where I think Mr Tudor's restraint finally went.

And along with it went his punctuation. The plenking is inexcusable.
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Re: The PFA Disrespect of Man City's greats is a line crosse

Postby Original Dub » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:58 am

Even the blow ins on here must be starting to see the emperor's clothes at this stage...

Actually, no. They don't.
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Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:51 am

I always lump in the rags and dippers with the southern bias. I count the rags as a London club and the dippers are well supported down there thanks to their success decades ago.
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Postby patrickblue » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:42 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I always lump in the rags and dippers with the southern bias. I count the rags as a London club and the dippers are well supported down there thanks to their success decades ago.


Southern Asia you mean.
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Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:18 am

patrickblue wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I always lump in the rags and dippers with the southern bias. I count the rags as a London club and the dippers are well supported down there thanks to their success decades ago.


Southern Asia you mean.


....or perhaps a bit further south than that.

Don't all the penguins in Antarctica support either the Scum or the Dippers ??
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Re: The PFA Disrespect of Man City's greats is a line crosse

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:39 am

It's definitely a strange one, given that these awards are supposed to be voted by their fellow pros. However, do the PFA voters get a hand picked shortlist by the powers than be, or does the disrespect really extend to the players and coaches?
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Postby Cocacolajojo » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:12 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:It's definitely a strange one, given that these awards are supposed to be voted by their fellow pros. However, do the PFA voters get a hand picked shortlist by the powers than be, or does the disrespect really extend to the players and coaches?


That's what I'm wondering too.
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Postby london blue 2 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:46 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:It's definitely a strange one, given that these awards are supposed to be voted by their fellow pros. However, do the PFA voters get a hand picked shortlist by the powers than be, or does the disrespect really extend to the players and coaches?

I think you can see from the way that teams like to raise their game against us that players and coaches think ill of our club since the take over. Wouldn't be surprised if this affected their opinion of our club and players. They all watch the same media outlets as we do after all...
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Postby Moonchesteri » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:58 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I always lump in the rags and dippers with the southern bias. I count the rags as a London club and the dippers are well supported down there thanks to their success decades ago.


Southern Asia you mean.


....or perhaps a bit further south than that.

Don't all the penguins in Antarctica support either the Scum or the Dippers ??


Nobody knows but the rags count them as part of the XXX million fans they have globally just in case.
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Postby johnny crossan » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:07 am

As expected none of our lads made the cut for the PFA 'Team of the Year' -
----------------De Gea-----------------
Walker---Luis-------Cahill-----Rose
Mane---Kante----Alli--------Hazard
-------Kane------Lukaku

Delli boy ahead of Merlin or Kev, Kane & Lukaku ahead of Sergio, Mane ahead of Sterling or Sane - a joke and a sick joke at that :x
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Re: The PFA Disrespect of Man City's greats is a line crosse

Postby Sister of fu » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:24 am

This season though no of our players have been really outstanding consistently maybe apart from Silva. I feel his lack of goals impacts on votes for him.

Other seasons we have been massively hard done too but IMO not this season. Sterling has played well and Sane since the turn of the year but not consistent as other players in the list.
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Postby fangsanalsatan » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:13 pm

Sister of fu wrote:This season though no of our players have been really outstanding consistently maybe apart from Silva. I feel his lack of goals impacts on votes for him.

Other seasons we have been massively hard done too but IMO not this season. Sterling has played well and Sane since the turn of the year but not consistent as other players in the list.

I agree, but I wonder how it will look after the season is finished. For now it's very predictable. They have the top scorer (Lukaku), a bunch of players from the two teams that have performed a level above everyone else, Mané (who has been good, no doubt) to appease the Liverpool herd and De Gea to appease the Utd herd (he's been good, but Lloris has conceded less goals, made more saves and racked up the most clean sheets in the league).
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Postby Original Dub » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:24 pm

So the team is made up of:

Chelsea
Spurs
United
Liverpool

How unpredictable
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Postby Dubciteh » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:28 pm

This may explain why, from Martin Keown:

"I was the PFA representative at Arsenal for five years but gathering the players’ nominations for the awards was always a nightmare.

People were not interested, couldn’t be bothered to sit down and write out their nominations and I spent far too much time trying to pin people down. Out of a squad of 22, you’d do well to get half that number of nominations. It used to amaze me how uninterested a lot of the players were.

To get people interested, I would eventually write up a shortlist of players in each position on a whiteboard and try to get people to choose. In most cases though, I’d pick my team and a lot of the others would just copy it. For some, I filled out their forms for them and they’d just sign at the bottom.

Some of them didn’t like the fact they couldn’t vote for team-mates, while others would make sure they didn’t put in a rival for a place in the team of the year.

The English players took most interest because they had grown up following it. Last season there were six Englishmen in the team of the season, a surprising amount.

The same lack of interest applied to the awards evening. There were lots of players from outside the top flight there but not from the Premier League. Arsenal sent people when Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp won but there wasn’t a huge presence in other years. Other clubs were the same although all players are invited.

The PFA do well to have these awards and do a lot of good work but there are improvements that can be made. The timing of it all is not great. The voting forms come out not long after Christmas, when there is too much football left to play. Usually the best players rise to the top at the key moments in the final weeks of the season.

I always based my vote on who played best against me, who gave me the most trouble. So I felt it was odd that players from all leagues were voting on the best player in the Premier League. How did they really know who the best player is? And why are they denied awards for players in their own league?

Players in the Championship should vote for a player and team of the year in their league and the same for League One and Two. It makes sense. Otherwise you end up with the Premier League player of the year being chosen mostly by players who haven’t faced him."
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Postby Cocacolajojo » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:53 pm

Thanks for that and it goes a long way to explain why the media bias is reflected in the votes when three quarters of the potential votes only has information and broadcasts from bt and sky to go on.

But it still doesn't explain it all IMO.
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Postby Wonderwall » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:54 pm

The problem with the yearly vote is because it's based flavour of the moment. If there was a team of the decade or a premier league all ri e team. Silva, Kun, Yaya and Kompany would all be in with a shout with Silva and Kun favourites to make the first 11.
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Postby Justified logic » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:37 pm

Remember when some nupty, whose name escapes me, said that Rooney had been the best PL striker ever? Talkshite's Brazil programme did a quick shout aound of all invitees for who their nominees would be. Usual suspects from the London clubs, United & Liverpool. No one at all mentioned Aguero.
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