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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:49 pm

johnny crossan wrote:It won't take too many more 6 nils to bring me round ;)

Might break the goal scoring record this season. Can't wait to see what happens against Palace.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Original Dub » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:52 pm

IMO we've never really had a style since the takeover.

Moreso it seemed we played to beat whatever team was in front of us under mancini and under pellegrini, we were balls out attack, but still adapted to the opposition and often got sucked into their style of play.

The very best teams have a style that stays the same and it's up to the oppo to adapt and try to cope with it.

I really think pep is the one to take us to this level. I also know this was never going to happen quickly.

He enforced the style of play first and foremost and then replaced the ones who weren't up to it .

Shory term pain for long term gain last season. Even at that we were robbed in one or two competitions.

I have total faith in him. And it will take a tremendous implosion to change that.

We're going to the very top level. Finally.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Justified logic » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:19 pm

Original Dub wrote:IMO we've never really had a style since the takeover.

Moreso it seemed we played to beat whatever team was in front of us under mancini and under pellegrini, we were balls out attack, but still adapted to the opposition and often got sucked into their style of play.

The very best teams have a style that stays the same and it's up to the oppo to adapt and try to cope with it.

I really think pep is the one to take us to this level. I also know this was never going to happen quickly.

He enforced the style of play first and foremost and then replaced the ones who weren't up to it .

Shory term pain for long term gain last season. Even at that we were robbed in one or two competitions.

I have total faith in him. And it will take a tremendous implosion to change that.

We're going to the very top level. Finally.

I certainly hope you're right. Can't wait to rub the scum and dipper fans' noses in it on a continuing basis.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby iwasthere2012 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:22 pm

Original Dub wrote:IMO we've never really had a style since the takeover.

Moreso it seemed we played to beat whatever team was in front of us under mancini and under pellegrini, we were balls out attack, but still adapted to the opposition and often got sucked into their style of play.

The very best teams have a style that stays the same and it's up to the oppo to adapt and try to cope with it.

I really think pep is the one to take us to this level. I also know this was never going to happen quickly.

He enforced the style of play first and foremost and then replaced the ones who weren't up to it .

Shory term pain for long term gain last season. Even at that we were robbed in one or two competitions.

I have total faith in him. And it will take a tremendous implosion to change that.

We're going to the very top level. Finally.

Yeah but do you like him?
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby failsworthblue » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:31 pm

Original Dub wrote:IMO we've never really had a style since the takeover.

Moreso it seemed we played to beat whatever team was in front of us under mancini and under pellegrini, we were balls out attack, but still adapted to the opposition and often got sucked into their style of play.

The very best teams have a style that stays the same and it's up to the oppo to adapt and try to cope with it.

I really think pep is the one to take us to this level. I also know this was never going to happen quickly.

He enforced the style of play first and foremost and then replaced the ones who weren't up to it .

Shory term pain for long term gain last season. Even at that we were robbed in one or two competitions.

I have total faith in him. And it will take a tremendous implosion to change that.

We're going to the very top level. Finally.


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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Original Dub » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:47 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:IMO we've never really had a style since the takeover.

Moreso it seemed we played to beat whatever team was in front of us under mancini and under pellegrini, we were balls out attack, but still adapted to the opposition and often got sucked into their style of play.

The very best teams have a style that stays the same and it's up to the oppo to adapt and try to cope with it.

I really think pep is the one to take us to this level. I also know this was never going to happen quickly.

He enforced the style of play first and foremost and then replaced the ones who weren't up to it .

Shory term pain for long term gain last season. Even at that we were robbed in one or two competitions.

I have total faith in him. And it will take a tremendous implosion to change that.

We're going to the very top level. Finally.

Yeah but do you like him?


Erm... He comes across as a bit of a cunt.

So yeah. I do.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:11 pm

Justified logic wrote:Just can't help himself. Bleating on about his only love, Barcelona, again...

Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola: "It was so good. Especially after an away game in the Champions League. The way we played as a team, we are so happy.

"I was lucky to manage Barcelona with many outstanding performances but this week has been a lot of goals. We have found our game, we can make short passes and we have a lot of energy from our full-backs.

"The people who come from the bench always give us something new. Clean sheets are a consequence of you controlling the game.

"You have to be serious until the end, goal difference could be important but it is Sergio Aguero's decision [to give the penalty to Raheem Sterling.]"


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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby PrezIke » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:31 pm

What does he actually know about football?
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:40 pm

PrezIke wrote:What does he actually know about football?


Thankfully Delph didn't do what PeP wanted.

Genius from Delph.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby City64 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:55 pm

Pep is right on it boys and girls right on it ! CITY CITY CITY CITY CITY
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby PrezIke » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:25 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
PrezIke wrote:What does he actually know about football?


Thankfully Delph didn't do what PeP wanted.

Genius from Delph.


How did you come to that assessment mate?

NBC broke down how Delph was playing almost as a CM which opened up space for KDB and a few others to help us cause Chelsea so many problems.

He also picked Fabian as the LB for the last two matches, which I think most assumed was going to be awarded to Danilo.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby failsworthblue » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:30 pm

Its a perfect match and that's why we got him.

Love his principles.

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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby PrezIke » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:37 pm

I saw Peter Schmeichel sound like an idiot the other day on Sky's "The Debate". He obviously doesn't watch us whilst they were bigging up Aguero's game as he still found a way to take a jibe at Pep in all of it (surprise!). He questioned why Pep benched Kun last season or that he needed to improve, suggesting that just because he doesn't do all of the other things Pep wants that he should not bench him as he is a goal scorer and that's his job.

It's as if he doesn't understand nor the idea of teaching which includes how believing players can change to show them it can make them even more effective works. It has worked, as Kun is clearly better as a result, and it has helped the team when he was playing. But that doesn't fit the narrative, and exposes their bias or lack of knowledge about Pep's approach.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby mr_nool » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:38 pm

PrezIke wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
PrezIke wrote:What does he actually know about football?


Thankfully Delph didn't do what PeP wanted.

Genius from Delph.


How did you come to that assessment mate?

NBC broke down how Delph was playing almost as a CM which opened up space for KDB and a few others to help us cause Chelsea so many problems.

He also picked Fabian as the LB for the last two matches, which I think most assumed was going to be awarded to Danilo.


I don't get that remark either. Especially since that was exactly how he played in the last game as well. The only difference was that we were lopsided then with Delph playing as an inverted fullback in possession and Walker providing width. Today they both tucked into the centre depending on which side the ball was on.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby nottsblue » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:39 pm

PrezIke wrote:I saw Peter Schmeichel sound like an idiot the other day on Sky's "The Debate". He obviously doesn't watch us whilst they were bigging up Aguero's game as he still found a way to take a jibe at Pep in all of it (surprise!). He questioned why Pep benched Kun last season or that he needed to improve, suggesting that just because he doesn't do all of the other things Pep wants that he should not bench him as he is a goal scorer and that's his job.

It's as if he doesn't understand nor the idea of teaching which includes how believing players can change to show them it can make them even more effective works. It has worked, as Kun is clearly better as a result, and it has helped the team when he was playing. But that doesn't fit the narrative, and exposes their bias or lack of knowledge about Pep's approach.

Maybe he coached Devante right down to Fleetwood?
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Plain Speaking » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:45 pm

It would be great if he signed a contract extension.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby bigblue » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:46 pm

PrezIke wrote:I saw Peter Schmeichel sound like an idiot the other day on Sky's "The Debate". He obviously doesn't watch us whilst they were bigging up Aguero's game as he still found a way to take a jibe at Pep in all of it (surprise!). He questioned why Pep benched Kun last season or that he needed to improve, suggesting that just because he doesn't do all of the other things Pep wants that he should not bench him as he is a goal scorer and that's his job.

It's as if he doesn't understand nor the idea of teaching which includes how believing players can change to show them it can make them even more effective works. It has worked, as Kun is clearly better as a result, and it has helped the team when he was playing. But that doesn't fit the narrative, and exposes their bias or lack of knowledge about Pep's approach.


And a complete lack of understanding about why Pep's teams are so good. Sure they are made up of world class players, but they know the system and play so cohesively together that the result is greater than the sum of the parts. That's why it's more important for Sergio to fit the team than the other way around
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:59 pm

One admirable aspect of today was that, even though we were winning 1-0 away to a major rival, we were still going for a second goal, right to the end.

If that had been Mourinho, there's no doubt that he would have got his side to 'shut up shop', using any underhand tactics to supplement this approach.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:29 pm

mr_nool wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
PrezIke wrote:What does he actually know about football?


Thankfully Delph didn't do what PeP wanted.

Genius from Delph.


How did you come to that assessment mate?

NBC broke down how Delph was playing almost as a CM which opened up space for KDB and a few others to help us cause Chelsea so many problems.

He also picked Fabian as the LB for the last two matches, which I think most assumed was going to be awarded to Danilo.


I don't get that remark either. Especially since that was exactly how he played in the last game as well. The only difference was that we were lopsided then with Delph playing as an inverted fullback in possession and Walker providing width. Today they both tucked into the centre depending on which side the ball was on.


Pep wanted him gone , loaned or sold (One of the two ) but Delph refused.
PEP obviously gets the credit for having him there at left back now , but if it wasn’t for Delphs refusal to leave — where would we be today ???
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:48 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Pep wanted him gone , loaned or sold (One of the two ) but Delph refused.
PEP obviously gets the credit for having him there at left back now , but if it wasn’t for Delphs refusal to leave — where would we be today ???


Bertrand, maybe, or a.n.other left back.

He missed almost half of last with injury so it's hard to blame Pep for being willing to let him go, same as may happen with Kompany now.

Apparently he's been coached to play at left back since Pep has arrived.
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