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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:19 am

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Pep wanted him gone , loaned or sold (One of the two ) but Delph refused.
PEP obviously gets the credit for having him there at left back now , but if it wasn’t for Delphs refusal to leave — where would we be today ???


Bertrand, maybe, or a.n.other left back.

He missed almost half of last with injury so it's hard to blame Pep for being willing to let him go, same as may happen with Kompany now.

Apparently he's been coached to play at left back since Pep has arrived.


Just looked at his injury record for last year - Sept 1 2016 till Jan 5 2017 , then he was fit and available till the end of the season.

Over the last 2 years he has been injured for around 240 days of them so let's just hope he manages to put together a long run without injury, as IMO, he has shown me that he is a far better left back defender than Mendy, from what I have seen so far - obviously nowhere near as good at going forward , but defensively he has been impressive.

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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:35 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Pep wanted him gone , loaned or sold (One of the two ) but Delph refused.
PEP obviously gets the credit for having him there at left back now , but if it wasn’t for Delphs refusal to leave — where would we be today ???


Bertrand, maybe, or a.n.other left back.

He missed almost half of last with injury so it's hard to blame Pep for being willing to let him go, same as may happen with Kompany now.

Apparently he's been coached to play at left back since Pep has arrived.


Just looked at his injury record for last year - Sept 1 2016 till Jan 5 2017 , then he was fit and available till the end of the season.

Over the last 2 years he has been injured for around 240 days of them so let's just hope he manages to put together a long run without injury, as IMO, he has shown me that he is a far better left back defender than Mendy, from what I have seen so far - obviously nowhere near as good at going forward , but defensively he has been impressive.

Long may it continue.

We're being linked to the Napoli left-back whose contract runs out next summer. Whether there is any truth to it I've no idea, but Delph looks a good fit at the moment.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby mr_nool » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:41 am

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PrezIke wrote:What does he actually know about football?


Thankfully Delph didn't do what PeP wanted.

Genius from Delph.


How did you come to that assessment mate?

NBC broke down how Delph was playing almost as a CM which opened up space for KDB and a few others to help us cause Chelsea so many problems.

He also picked Fabian as the LB for the last two matches, which I think most assumed was going to be awarded to Danilo.


I don't get that remark either. Especially since that was exactly how he played in the last game as well. The only difference was that we were lopsided then with Delph playing as an inverted fullback in possession and Walker providing width. Today they both tucked into the centre depending on which side the ball was on.


Pep wanted him gone , loaned or sold (One of the two ) but Delph refused.
PEP obviously gets the credit for having him there at left back now , but if it wasn’t for Delphs refusal to leave — where would we be today ???


Ok, get what you mean now. I agree and so does Pep. He's already eaten humble pie in public by saying that his biggest regret last season was that he didn't play Delph more often.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby City64 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:20 am

Delph playing and looking like a £30 million LB right now thanks to Pep and Delph,s mentality belief and talent . Something quite magical and timely has happened ............. a miracle perhaps ? 8-)
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby zuricity » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:37 am

City64 wrote:Delph playing and looking like a £30 million LB right now thanks to Pep and Delph,s mentality belief and talent . Something quite magical and timely has happened ............. a miracle perhaps ? 8-)


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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:57 pm

^^^^ Sacchi also said he's rarely seen a team play a game so well as us against Chelsea. That didn't go unnoticed by many of us but our media has been silent on it. I've never seen a team in this country play a game like it.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:02 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:^^^^ Sacchi also said he's rarely seen a team play a game so well as us against Chelsea. That didn't go unnoticed by many of us but our media has been silent on it. I've never seen a team in this country play a game like it.

To be fair I saw lots and lots of praise for us following that match. Let's hope we can follow it up with a string of victories and pull away from manure.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby sheblue » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:06 am

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Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:^^^^ Sacchi also said he's rarely seen a team play a game so well as us against Chelsea. That didn't go unnoticed by many of us but our media has been silent on it. I've never seen a team in this country play a game like it.

To be fair I saw lots and lots of praise for us following that match. Let's hope we can follow it up with a string of victories and pull away from manure.


It was a tactical masterclass, Cunty had no answer to it.
As for the rags, nothing to worry about there, they will be in the rear view mirror very soon.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:13 am

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london blue 2 wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:^^^^ Sacchi also said he's rarely seen a team play a game so well as us against Chelsea. That didn't go unnoticed by many of us but our media has been silent on it. I've never seen a team in this country play a game like it.

To be fair I saw lots and lots of praise for us following that match. Let's hope we can follow it up with a string of victories and pull away from manure.


It was a tactical masterclass, Cunty had no answer to it.
As for the rags, nothing to worry about there,they will be in the rear view mirror very soon.

They already are
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:06 pm

We have just played our best game in a long time and all the media are creaming themselves about the weekend. However, I have a niggle that bothers me about Guardiola. He was pressuring KDB recently and KDB knew it and said he was aware of what Guardiola was doing and why, because he was pushing him to be the best he can....blah blah.

I think today's presser with Guardiola saying kev is the the best but 1 is fucking school playground stuff. Pep needs to be psychologically better than that. I would imagine Kev thought pep was very predictable and he will get bored with hearing it.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:20 am

Wonderwall wrote:We have just played our best game in a long time and all the media are creaming themselves about the weekend. However, I have a niggle that bothers me about Guardiola. He was pressuring KDB recently and KDB knew it and said he was aware of what Guardiola was doing and why, because he was pushing him to be the best he can....blah blah.

I think today's presser with Guardiola saying kev is the the best but 1 is fucking school playground stuff. Pep needs to be psychologically better than that. I would imagine Kev thought pep was very predictable and he will get bored with hearing it.


This is one of the reasons why Ill never warm to PG ------- as for KDB - I think he is way more intelligent than the average footballer so it won't bother him what PeP says regarding matters like the one he was quoted on.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:51 am

Wonderwall wrote:We have just played our best game in a long time and all the media are creaming themselves about the weekend. However, I have a niggle that bothers me about Guardiola. He was pressuring KDB recently and KDB knew it and said he was aware of what Guardiola was doing and why, because he was pushing him to be the best he can....blah blah.

I think today's presser with Guardiola saying kev is the the best but 1 is fucking school playground stuff. Pep needs to be psychologically better than that. I would imagine Kev thought pep was very predictable and he will get bored with hearing it.


I'm not following, why is saying he can't be regarded better than Messi until he's backed it up with trophies "school playground stuff"? I think that's fair comment. He says in the same quotes that he doesn't want to put too much pressure on him either.

I think psychologically he's been pretty spot on so far, as evidenced by the improvement in pretty much all of the squad.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Justified logic » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:24 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We have just played our best game in a long time and all the media are creaming themselves about the weekend. However, I have a niggle that bothers me about Guardiola. He was pressuring KDB recently and KDB knew it and said he was aware of what Guardiola was doing and why, because he was pushing him to be the best he can....blah blah.

I think today's presser with Guardiola saying kev is the the best but 1 is fucking school playground stuff. Pep needs to be psychologically better than that. I would imagine Kev thought pep was very predictable and he will get bored with hearing it.


I'm not following, why is saying he can't be regarded better than Messi until he's backed it up with trophies "school playground stuff"? I think that's fair comment. He says in the same quotes that he doesn't want to put too much pressure on him either.

I think psychologically he's been pretty spot on so far, as evidenced by the improvement in pretty much all of the squad.

Is De Bruyne truly comparable to Messi?

All this shit about "best". Who is best, Neuer or Iniesta, Dani Alves or Sergio Ramos, an apple or an orange?
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:38 am

Justified logic wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We have just played our best game in a long time and all the media are creaming themselves about the weekend. However, I have a niggle that bothers me about Guardiola. He was pressuring KDB recently and KDB knew it and said he was aware of what Guardiola was doing and why, because he was pushing him to be the best he can....blah blah.

I think today's presser with Guardiola saying kev is the the best but 1 is fucking school playground stuff. Pep needs to be psychologically better than that. I would imagine Kev thought pep was very predictable and he will get bored with hearing it.


I'm not following, why is saying he can't be regarded better than Messi until he's backed it up with trophies "school playground stuff"? I think that's fair comment. He says in the same quotes that he doesn't want to put too much pressure on him either.

I think psychologically he's been pretty spot on so far, as evidenced by the improvement in pretty much all of the squad.

Is De Bruyne truly comparable to Messi?

All this shit about "best". Who is best, Neuer or Iniesta, Dani Alves or Sergio Ramos, an apple or an orange?


In the context he was asked then yes, he can be compared. He was asked if DeBruyne is currently the best player in Europe?
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Justified logic » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:03 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Justified logic wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We have just played our best game in a long time and all the media are creaming themselves about the weekend. However, I have a niggle that bothers me about Guardiola. He was pressuring KDB recently and KDB knew it and said he was aware of what Guardiola was doing and why, because he was pushing him to be the best he can....blah blah.

I think today's presser with Guardiola saying kev is the the best but 1 is fucking school playground stuff. Pep needs to be psychologically better than that. I would imagine Kev thought pep was very predictable and he will get bored with hearing it.


I'm not following, why is saying he can't be regarded better than Messi until he's backed it up with trophies "school playground stuff"? I think that's fair comment. He says in the same quotes that he doesn't want to put too much pressure on him either.

I think psychologically he's been pretty spot on so far, as evidenced by the improvement in pretty much all of the squad.

Is De Bruyne truly comparable to Messi?

All this shit about "best". Who is best, Neuer or Iniesta, Dani Alves or Sergio Ramos, an apple or an orange?


In the context he was asked then yes, he can be compared. He was asked if DeBruyne is currently the best player in Europe?

Hmm... on what objective measure(s)? Goals scored or assists or passes or ...?
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:20 am

" Asked if De Bruyne could ever reach Messi's level, Guardiola said:

" It would be a dream for me. I would love, not only for Kevin, but all the players I have had in the past to achieve the level of Messi. It would be a massive thing for my teams because we would win a lot of games. But I don't want to put pressure on Kevin's shoulders. Kevin is an outstanding, amazing player. He is a humble guy and all his team-mates love him. He wants to play every single game, he fights until the end but I don't help him by comparing him with Messi. Messi is apart. He is a guy who has scored 60 goals every season for eight or nine years." "
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Original Dub » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:49 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" Asked if De Bruyne could ever reach Messi's level, Guardiola said:

" It would be a dream for me. I would love, not only for Kevin, but all the players I have had in the past to achieve the level of Messi. It would be a massive thing for my teams because we would win a lot of games. But I don't want to put pressure on Kevin's shoulders. Kevin is an outstanding, amazing player. He is a humble guy and all his team-mates love him. He wants to play every single game, he fights until the end but I don't help him by comparing him with Messi. Messi is apart. He is a guy who has scored 60 goals every season for eight or nine years." "


Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby Justified logic » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:38 am

Original Dub wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" Asked if De Bruyne could ever reach Messi's level, Guardiola said:

" It would be a dream for me. I would love, not only for Kevin, but all the players I have had in the past to achieve the level of Messi. It would be a massive thing for my teams because we would win a lot of games. But I don't want to put pressure on Kevin's shoulders. Kevin is an outstanding, amazing player. He is a humble guy and all his team-mates love him. He wants to play every single game, he fights until the end but I don't help him by comparing him with Messi. Messi is apart. He is a guy who has scored 60 goals every season for eight or nine years." "


Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Agreed. He's not comparing like with like (position, skills, team mates, team style of play, manager, league). It isn't De Bruyne's job to score 60 goals every season.
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Re: Pep Guardian football genius

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:41 am

Justified logic wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:" Asked if De Bruyne could ever reach Messi's level, Guardiola said:

" It would be a dream for me. I would love, not only for Kevin, but all the players I have had in the past to achieve the level of Messi. It would be a massive thing for my teams because we would win a lot of games. But I don't want to put pressure on Kevin's shoulders. Kevin is an outstanding, amazing player. He is a humble guy and all his team-mates love him. He wants to play every single game, he fights until the end but I don't help him by comparing him with Messi. Messi is apart. He is a guy who has scored 60 goals every season for eight or nine years." "


Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Agreed. He's not comparing like with like (position, skills, team mates, team style of play, manager, league). It isn't De Bruyne's job to score 60 goals every season.


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