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Mase wrote:The main thing for me, and it should worry the club massively, is the season ticket holders that are sick of the past few years treatment by the FA and referees and decide to call it a day.

I was on the fence at the start of the season, I hoped a good campaign would convince me to keep the season ticket. But after 19 years straight of having it I'll be giving it up at the end of the season.

There's a few reasons why - I don't fancy watching teams like Sunderland come to COMS and whack 12 men behind the ball every other week - it just gets boring and predictable. Another reason is the club used to pride itself on the fans. The little touches they'd do that set us apart from other clubs and kept the 30-Odd thousand going during the division 2 days. Now I can't even stay inside the stadium for 2 minutes after the match before I'm asked to leave by a gang of stewards because they "want to get home".

But the main and most important reason for me not renewing next season is the fact we're getting absolutely cheated week in week out, and the club aren't doing enough about it. I say 'aren't doing enough' because I know someone will chirp up with (and quite rightly so) "how do you know the club aren't doing anything?". They're simply not doing enough! For Sagna to have to delete his wording on Instagram (but then still get fined - he might as well have kept it on there), for Pep to start off the season questioning the decisions by referees only to now say "I don't want to talk about the referee" when questioned, someone from the club must have told him not to say anything. And it absolutely stinks.

5 years this has been going on. Very slowly to start with, but 5 years they've been doing this. To the point now where they're not even hiding it.

I've supported City through thick and thin. Some of those 'dark days' were my most enjoyable following City - because I only knew the dark days at that time. I bleed blue. But for it to get to the point where I've been chipped away at for 5 years and now don't want to renew because I don't want to see us be cheated every week, it says a lot.

As people have already mentioned - there's literally nothing we, as fans, can do. Even when it's obvious decisions that go against us they're being papered over by incompetent 'pundits' or ex-referees in the media. It's wrong.

I can see a hell of a lot of people not putting up with it anymore and calling it a day. I'm not talking about calling it a day with City. I'll support the boys in blue until death. But going every home match is starting to feel like going 12 rounds with Mike Tyson, him knocking you out clean, but the ref still letting him batter you whilst you're on the deck.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see season ticket sales dropping and it's 100% down to the club not coming out publicly enough and doing something about the blatant cheating and corruption.

london blue 2 wrote:

Original Dub wrote:Great post mate.

Agreed.

I felt sick to the stomach at wembley on Sunday. I cannot imagine how that feels for a ST holder going through that week after week. I felt truly helpless and sick. Can't blame you mase.

Mase wrote:The main thing for me, and it should worry the club massively, is the season ticket holders that are sick of the past few years treatment by the FA and referees and decide to call it a day.

I was on the fence at the start of the season, I hoped a good campaign would convince me to keep the season ticket. But after 19 years straight of having it I'll be giving it up at the end of the season.

There's a few reasons why - I don't fancy watching teams like Sunderland come to COMS and whack 12 men behind the ball every other week - it just gets boring and predictable. Another reason is the club used to pride itself on the fans. The little touches they'd do that set us apart from other clubs and kept the 30-Odd thousand going during the division 2 days. Now I can't even stay inside the stadium for 2 minutes after the match before I'm asked to leave by a gang of stewards because they "want to get home".

But the main and most important reason for me not renewing next season is the fact we're getting absolutely cheated week in week out, and the club aren't doing enough about it. I say 'aren't doing enough' because I know someone will chirp up with (and quite rightly so) "how do you know the club aren't doing anything?". They're simply not doing enough! For Sagna to have to delete his wording on Instagram (but then still get fined - he might as well have kept it on there), for Pep to start off the season questioning the decisions by referees only to now say "I don't want to talk about the referee" when questioned, someone from the club must have told him not to say anything. And it absolutely stinks.

5 years this has been going on. Very slowly to start with, but 5 years they've been doing this. To the point now where they're not even hiding it.

I've supported City through thick and thin. Some of those 'dark days' were my most enjoyable following City - because I only knew the dark days at that time. I bleed blue. But for it to get to the point where I've been chipped away at for 5 years and now don't want to renew because I don't want to see us be cheated every week, it says a lot.

As people have already mentioned - there's literally nothing we, as fans, can do. Even when it's obvious decisions that go against us they're being papered over by incompetent 'pundits' or ex-referees in the media. It's wrong.

I can see a hell of a lot of people not putting up with it anymore and calling it a day. I'm not talking about calling it a day with City. I'll support the boys in blue until death. But going every home match is starting to feel like going 12 rounds with Mike Tyson, him knocking you out clean, but the ref still letting him batter you whilst you're on the deck.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see season ticket sales dropping and it's 100% down to the club not coming out publicly enough and doing something about the blatant cheating and corruption.

Dimples wrote:

Mase wrote:The main thing for me, and it should worry the club massively, is the season ticket holders that are sick of the past few years treatment by the FA and referees and decide to call it a day.

I was on the fence at the start of the season, I hoped a good campaign would convince me to keep the season ticket. But after 19 years straight of having it I'll be giving it up at the end of the season.

There's a few reasons why - I don't fancy watching teams like Sunderland come to COMS and whack 12 men behind the ball every other week - it just gets boring and predictable. Another reason is the club used to pride itself on the fans. The little touches they'd do that set us apart from other clubs and kept the 30-Odd thousand going during the division 2 days. Now I can't even stay inside the stadium for 2 minutes after the match before I'm asked to leave by a gang of stewards because they "want to get home".

But the main and most important reason for me not renewing next season is the fact we're getting absolutely cheated week in week out, and the club aren't doing enough about it. I say 'aren't doing enough' because I know someone will chirp up with (and quite rightly so) "how do you know the club aren't doing anything?". They're simply not doing enough! For Sagna to have to delete his wording on Instagram (but then still get fined - he might as well have kept it on there), for Pep to start off the season questioning the decisions by referees only to now say "I don't want to talk about the referee" when questioned, someone from the club must have told him not to say anything. And it absolutely stinks.

5 years this has been going on. Very slowly to start with, but 5 years they've been doing this. To the point now where they're not even hiding it.

I've supported City through thick and thin. Some of those 'dark days' were my most enjoyable following City - because I only knew the dark days at that time. I bleed blue. But for it to get to the point where I've been chipped away at for 5 years and now don't want to renew because I don't want to see us be cheated every week, it says a lot.

As people have already mentioned - there's literally nothing we, as fans, can do. Even when it's obvious decisions that go against us they're being papered over by incompetent 'pundits' or ex-referees in the media. It's wrong.

I can see a hell of a lot of people not putting up with it anymore and calling it a day. I'm not talking about calling it a day with City. I'll support the boys in blue until death. But going every home match is starting to feel like going 12 rounds with Mike Tyson, him knocking you out clean, but the ref still letting him batter you whilst you're on the deck.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see season ticket sales dropping and it's 100% down to the club not coming out publicly enough and doing something about the blatant cheating and corruption.

If we walk away then they win - exactly what they want.

Pep and the players have been told to stay quiet.
We know what they think, Pep has mentioned it numerous times, YaYa has had a few words and Sanga's tweet.

I am giving it some more time before I walk away. Reasons include:
We play some fantastic football, we have young exiting players who are going to get better, we are capable of winning pots and then there is the academy.
And why let them win?

I am hoping and I believe that the decisions against us have multiplied because there is a war going on in the background.
The likes of Sunday's match (and the Rags favorable decisions) is a suicide mission by Sky/FA, et al.
It undermines the 'product' to the average fan. It is not logical to tarnish your 'product' in such a public and unsophisticated way.
They are self harming, not everybody supports the Rags & Co. They need the other subscriptions as well.

The only sense I make of it is that they are in a war with the owners and that we are landing some heavy punches.

Thursday will be interesting. Do they dare follow-up on Sunday with another show in favor of the Rags?
Here is my prediction - Thursday's match will be reffed fairly - Sky/FA cannot afford another hit to their credibility. To costly for them.

lonestay wrote:The sky/BT/pgmol/prem/fa tie up have got a problem Thursday , all season they have been trying to engineer the scum into fourth place and they are finally in a position to be able to leap frog us, but I really don't think they wanted it to happen in the derby they wanted it done before then . After Sundays ref display, if they blatently influence decisions Thursday then the cat is out the bag , sure Sky are rubbing their hands and red Tyler and ratboy will be rubbing something else but as a collective Thursday is not the game to be seen as anything but fair. The collectives influence is at it's most effective when it is used in small well spread out doses not a big overdose in a televised game, Sundays ref has done the collective no favours as they now have to either blatently influence it, or let the chance possibly of fourth for the rags to slide on Thursday .

City64 wrote:

Mase wrote:The main thing for me, and it should worry the club massively, is the season ticket holders that are sick of the past few years treatment by the FA and referees and decide to call it a day.

I was on the fence at the start of the season, I hoped a good campaign would convince me to keep the season ticket. But after 19 years straight of having it I'll be giving it up at the end of the season.

There's a few reasons why - I don't fancy watching teams like Sunderland come to COMS and whack 12 men behind the ball every other week - it just gets boring and predictable. Another reason is the club used to pride itself on the fans. The little touches they'd do that set us apart from other clubs and kept the 30-Odd thousand going during the division 2 days. Now I can't even stay inside the stadium for 2 minutes after the match before I'm asked to leave by a gang of stewards because they "want to get home".

But the main and most important reason for me not renewing next season is the fact we're getting absolutely cheated week in week out, and the club aren't doing enough about it. I say 'aren't doing enough' because I know someone will chirp up with (and quite rightly so) "how do you know the club aren't doing anything?". They're simply not doing enough! For Sagna to have to delete his wording on Instagram (but then still get fined - he might as well have kept it on there), for Pep to start off the season questioning the decisions by referees only to now say "I don't want to talk about the referee" when questioned, someone from the club must have told him not to say anything. And it absolutely stinks.

5 years this has been going on. Very slowly to start with, but 5 years they've been doing this. To the point now where they're not even hiding it.

I've supported City through thick and thin. Some of those 'dark days' were my most enjoyable following City - because I only knew the dark days at that time. I bleed blue. But for it to get to the point where I've been chipped away at for 5 years and now don't want to renew because I don't want to see us be cheated every week, it says a lot.

As people have already mentioned - there's literally nothing we, as fans, can do. Even when it's obvious decisions that go against us they're being papered over by incompetent 'pundits' or ex-referees in the media. It's wrong.

I can see a hell of a lot of people not putting up with it anymore and calling it a day. I'm not talking about calling it a day with City. I'll support the boys in blue until death. But going every home match is starting to feel like going 12 rounds with Mike Tyson, him knocking you out clean, but the ref still letting him batter you whilst you're on the deck.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see season ticket sales dropping and it's 100% down to the club not coming out publicly enough and doing something about the blatant cheating and corruption.

Welcome back ! Loads and loads of fans feel the same , my 21 year old lad who goes to the games with me is at rock bottom with it all and his emotions and frustrations all over the place seeing this blatant corruption in his early adult years .

Im_Spartacus wrote:

City64 wrote:

Mase wrote:The main thing for me, and it should worry the club massively, is the season ticket holders that are sick of the past few years treatment by the FA and referees and decide to call it a day.

I was on the fence at the start of the season, I hoped a good campaign would convince me to keep the season ticket. But after 19 years straight of having it I'll be giving it up at the end of the season.

There's a few reasons why - I don't fancy watching teams like Sunderland come to COMS and whack 12 men behind the ball every other week - it just gets boring and predictable. Another reason is the club used to pride itself on the fans. The little touches they'd do that set us apart from other clubs and kept the 30-Odd thousand going during the division 2 days. Now I can't even stay inside the stadium for 2 minutes after the match before I'm asked to leave by a gang of stewards because they "want to get home".

But the main and most important reason for me not renewing next season is the fact we're getting absolutely cheated week in week out, and the club aren't doing enough about it. I say 'aren't doing enough' because I know someone will chirp up with (and quite rightly so) "how do you know the club aren't doing anything?". They're simply not doing enough! For Sagna to have to delete his wording on Instagram (but then still get fined - he might as well have kept it on there), for Pep to start off the season questioning the decisions by referees only to now say "I don't want to talk about the referee" when questioned, someone from the club must have told him not to say anything. And it absolutely stinks.

5 years this has been going on. Very slowly to start with, but 5 years they've been doing this. To the point now where they're not even hiding it.

I've supported City through thick and thin. Some of those 'dark days' were my most enjoyable following City - because I only knew the dark days at that time. I bleed blue. But for it to get to the point where I've been chipped away at for 5 years and now don't want to renew because I don't want to see us be cheated every week, it says a lot.

As people have already mentioned - there's literally nothing we, as fans, can do. Even when it's obvious decisions that go against us they're being papered over by incompetent 'pundits' or ex-referees in the media. It's wrong.

I can see a hell of a lot of people not putting up with it anymore and calling it a day. I'm not talking about calling it a day with City. I'll support the boys in blue until death. But going every home match is starting to feel like going 12 rounds with Mike Tyson, him knocking you out clean, but the ref still letting him batter you whilst you're on the deck.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see season ticket sales dropping and it's 100% down to the club not coming out publicly enough and doing something about the blatant cheating and corruption.

Welcome back ! Loads and loads of fans feel the same , my 21 year old lad who goes to the games with me is at rock bottom with it all and his emotions and frustrations all over the place seeing this blatant corruption in his early adult years .

I'd agree, although I'm still overseas if I came back I wouldn't even bother asking for my SC back from the guy whose been using it for the last 4/5 years, besides I think the whole lot of my mates are going to knock it on the head at the end of the season.

I'd already grown disillusioned by the time I moved away - granted my last full season was when we won the title for the first time, but for the most part I found the football more of a chess match interspersed with a scattering of ridiculous decisions that were becoming the biggest influencers of results (my last season I think included the Liverpool semi finals and the Arsenal FA cup game). If winning is what counts, then great - i'd much prefer to watch that in the comfort of my own home or a pub with a decent beer and good conversation with mates that be fucked up the arse for 500 quid a year by the referees

dick dastardley wrote:maybe city should do a compilation video of all the piss poor decisions over the the season stick it on the website for all and sundry to see

Original Dub wrote:

dick dastardley wrote:maybe city should do a compilation video of all the piss poor decisions over the the season stick it on the website for all and sundry to see

Well this is absolutely something that needs to be done. Not on our website, but the club could certainly get something really professional done and released through other outlets.

I wouldn't ever want a helping hand from officials. Fuck that. But if most of the teams we play get a helping hand, then it needs tackling.

And I can't think of any other way of tackling it than just throwing the hard evidence out there for all to see. I'd also have no problem if the times we were helped out were in there too.

Because there's fuck all of them.