phips wrote:Justified logic wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:phips wrote:Spurge wrote:As I said (although you chose to delete it when quoting me) it was much more than just the defence where Juve did so much better. If you complete more passes, have a cutting edge in the last third then you rely on your defence less to defend - that's a key factor as is the fact they used wing backs enabling them to push Monaco back.
i do not remember the 2 legs with Monaco but given Pep's philosophy and the boring, boring pass pass pass possession style we currently employ coupled with Monaco's desire to use their pace to counter-attack, shouldn't we have completed more passes and had the ball more too?
We did.
We did indeed. We won (Guardiola Rules Football).
hence the reason for me ignoring this facet and focusing solely on the defenders on the pitch when tying to explain the biggest diff between Juve vs. Monaco and City vs Monaco.
Oh dear, ok what would have been obvious to whoever watched both games was that juve used the ball much better than we did particularly in the last third. Their one touch passing and risky passes to players in that area of the pitch were coming off, we gave the ball away far too often in these situations particularly the first half, that's what I meant by completed passes. If we completed more passes statistically then I'm sure the majority would have been in our own half or sideways /backwards. At least fewer telling passes.
If anyone watched the two games and thinks the difference was just because of the defence then I can only suggest you try watching them again after that if you still think it's just the defensive display I will happily bow out of this thread.