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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Scatman » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:45 pm

I would expect and hope that the people who own arsenal see the pound signs and cave in at the last minute but not before making it look like is entirely down to player power.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Sideshow Bob » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:33 pm

they will either drag this out until the 11th hour or refuse to sell to us at all. i'm hoping for the latter.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:38 pm

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PrezIke wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/13/football-transfer-rumours-chelsea-target-james-rodriguez-move

Poor Alexis Sánchez. Not only has he tolerated three seasons of incompetence along with half a season of spooky dog banners, but now he’s had enough, Arsenal have suddenly decided they’re no longer Manchester City’s feeder club. More generally, they refuse to sell to a rival – a rival for what is unclear – and that, of course, is a principle more important than the basic right of a human being to live and work wherever the hell they want. As such, Sánchez may be forced to join Bayern Munich, who actually thrash Arsenal more often than City; just as well they are not in next season’s Champions League.


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but of A=B and B=C so A=D right there.

why is he forced to go to Bayern? just hang out at Arsenal for another year and, if he really wants to come to City, he can do it for free next summer. that'd help us since we can reinvest the fee we'd spend on him now into the squad or wages if he comes on a free.


In a year's time he could be clapped out and past it

All the more reason not to sign him now ??

If that was to be the case MC, then we would've just wasted £50m on a guy for one season. Even for us, that is a helluva lot of money to fork out. Especially how the defence is the priority and a long term replacement for Yaya still needs to be sourced.


I always want us to sign more forwards NB but, in this case, just not Sanchez.

Moreover, as you say, we have other priorities which badly need addressing and which will be quite expensive in themselves.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Slim » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:20 am

He's a match winner. Can't have too many of them. With Nolito and Navas off the books, there's certainly room. Am I alone in this thinking he'd be a great capture for City?
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:30 am

Slim wrote:He's a match winner. Can't have too many of them. With Nolito and Navas off the books, there's certainly room. Am I alone in this thinking he'd be a great capture for City?


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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:34 am

Slim wrote:He's a match winner. Can't have too many of them. With Nolito and Navas off the books, there's certainly room. Am I alone in this thinking he'd be a great capture for City?


He'd be good signing as "cherry on top of the cake". However we need complete defence revamp. I mean keeper was (hopefully) a good start but we need at least one world class (that's the tricky bit) centerback and probably at least three fullbacks. I'd love to have quality holding midfielder or box-to-box midfielder as well. We could do with Sanchez but can live without him as well.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Mase » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:58 am

Slim wrote:He's a match winner. Can't have too many of them. With Nolito and Navas off the books, there's certainly room. Am I alone in this thinking he'd be a great capture for City?


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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby patrickblue » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:09 am

Scatman wrote:I would expect and hope that the people who own arsenal see the pound signs and cave in at the last minute but not before making it look like is entirely down to player power.


That's how I see it unfolding too.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby PrezIke » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:48 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:He's a match winner. Can't have too many of them. With Nolito and Navas off the books, there's certainly room. Am I alone in this thinking he'd be a great capture for City?


He'd be good signing as "cherry on top of the cake". However we need complete defence revamp. I mean keeper was (hopefully) a good start but we need at least one world class (that's the tricky bit) centerback and probably at least three fullbacks. I'd love to have quality holding midfielder or box-to-box midfielder as well. We could do with Sanchez but can live without him as well.


Not really thinking the club is aligned with your assessment mate.

Now, if Kompany picks up another injury this summer then I can see us doing this, but otherwise I'm not convinced they see things the way you do. An issue here is there aren't exactly many of these available. Who would your target be?

Stones needs to play to improve, and was performing well until he was injured. Then Otamendi was playing quite well along side Vinny. So well that Pep didn't even bring Stones back in for the last few games after he was fit. What player of such a level would want to compete with 3 other CB's? I am assuming you would sell Otamendi then?

As for fullbacks, we are clearly going to sign at least 2, and probably 3. There are loads of stories out there that we are trying to sign such players so this idea that we cannot focus on both attack and defence seems odd to me. It's not as if we are going to ignore the fact that we have let 3 of our fullbacks go, right?

With our attack, I think I disagree. We do need to improve it if we want to get to the next level as a club. I love Sane, Jesus and Sterling, but they are nowhere near as proven as Sanchez, and I read that we created the most chances in the PL but our rate of chance conversion compared to Chelsea's (for example) was drastically different.

We were nowhere near clinical enough for all of the talent we have and it very much led to our record just as much as our defence, arguably, because if we converted on some key chances this season I think we would have been challenging for the title.

Alexis is exactly the kind of player we need so we can take on Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern and move ahead of clubs in the PL as THE team to beat. I constantly heard we had the best squad the last 2 seasons, but I have disagreed due to weaknesses we are looking to address, and adding Pep helps with as well. If by some miracle we sign Mbappe this summer (I doubt it), while he's not as proven for as long as Sanchez, he has already shown it consistently at the highest levels which our young attacking players have yet to show.

I really hope we sign him and believe we will benefit so immensely from it that the defensive worries will be less problematic, especially if we have fullbacks that truly fit Pep's philosophy -- which seems sure to happen.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby patrickblue » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:55 pm

Anyone seen him in Greggs yet?
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:03 am

I'm so torn on this one. Genuinely cannot decide how I feel. Exciting if he does come tho.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Dubciteh » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:19 am

PrezIke wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:He's a match winner. Can't have too many of them. With Nolito and Navas off the books, there's certainly room. Am I alone in this thinking he'd be a great capture for City?


He'd be good signing as "cherry on top of the cake". However we need complete defence revamp. I mean keeper was (hopefully) a good start but we need at least one world class (that's the tricky bit) centerback and probably at least three fullbacks. I'd love to have quality holding midfielder or box-to-box midfielder as well. We could do with Sanchez but can live without him as well.


Not really thinking the club is aligned with your assessment mate.

Now, if Kompany picks up another injury this summer then I can see us doing this, but otherwise I'm not convinced they see things the way you do. An issue here is there aren't exactly many of these available. Who would your target be?

Stones needs to play to improve, and was performing well until he was injured. Then Otamendi was playing quite well along side Vinny. So well that Pep didn't even bring Stones back in for the last few games after he was fit. What player of such a level would want to compete with 3 other CB's? I am assuming you would sell Otamendi then?

As for fullbacks, we are clearly going to sign at least 2, and probably 3. There are loads of stories out there that we are trying to sign such players so this idea that we cannot focus on both attack and defence seems odd to me. It's not as if we are going to ignore the fact that we have let 3 of our fullbacks go, right?

With our attack, I think I disagree. We do need to improve it if we want to get to the next level as a club. I love Sane, Jesus and Sterling, but they are nowhere near as proven as Sanchez, and I read that we created the most chances in the PL but our rate of chance conversion compared to Chelsea's (for example) was drastically different.

We were nowhere near clinical enough for all of the talent we have and it very much led to our record just as much as our defence, arguably, because if we converted on some key chances this season I think we would have been challenging for the title.

Alexis is exactly the kind of player we need so we can take on Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern and move ahead of clubs in the PL as THE team to beat. I constantly heard we had the best squad the last 2 seasons, but I have disagreed due to weaknesses we are looking to address, and adding Pep helps with as well. If by some miracle we sign Mbappe this summer (I doubt it), while he's not as proven for as long as Sanchez, he has already shown it consistently at the highest levels which our young attacking players have yet to show.

I really hope we sign him and believe we will benefit so immensely from it that the defensive worries will be less problematic, especially if we have fullbacks that truly fit Pep's philosophy -- which seems sure to happen.


You can't win anything with stones and otamendi let alone go for the quadruple. If u pin our hopes on kompany staying fit that's gross negligence for me from the management. It's a priority for me.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby sheblue » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:54 am

PrezIke wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:He's a match winner. Can't have too many of them. With Nolito and Navas off the books, there's certainly room. Am I alone in this thinking he'd be a great capture for City?


He'd be good signing as "cherry on top of the cake". However we need complete defence revamp. I mean keeper was (hopefully) a good start but we need at least one world class (that's the tricky bit) centerback and probably at least three fullbacks. I'd love to have quality holding midfielder or box-to-box midfielder as well. We could do with Sanchez but can live without him as well.


Not really thinking the club is aligned with your assessment mate.

Now, if Kompany picks up another injury this summer then I can see us doing this, but otherwise I'm not convinced they see things the way you do. An issue here is there aren't exactly many of these available. Who would your target be?

Stones needs to play to improve, and was performing well until he was injured. Then Otamendi was playing quite well along side Vinny. So well that Pep didn't even bring Stones back in for the last few games after he was fit. What player of such a level would want to compete with 3 other CB's? I am assuming you would sell Otamendi then?

As for fullbacks, we are clearly going to sign at least 2, and probably 3. There are loads of stories out there that we are trying to sign such players so this idea that we cannot focus on both attack and defence seems odd to me. It's not as if we are going to ignore the fact that we have let 3 of our fullbacks go, right?

With our attack, I think I disagree. We do need to improve it if we want to get to the next level as a club. I love Sane, Jesus and Sterling, but they are nowhere near as proven as Sanchez, and I read that we created the most chances in the PL but our rate of chance conversion compared to Chelsea's (for example) was drastically different.

We were nowhere near clinical enough for all of the talent we have and it very much led to our record just as much as our defence, arguably, because if we converted on some key chances this season I think we would have been challenging for the title.

Alexis is exactly the kind of player we need so we can take on Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern and move ahead of clubs in the PL as THE team to beat. I constantly heard we had the best squad the last 2 seasons, but I have disagreed due to weaknesses we are looking to address, and adding Pep helps with as well. If by some miracle we sign Mbappe this summer (I doubt it), while he's not as proven for as long as Sanchez, he has already shown it consistently at the highest levels which our young attacking players have yet to show.

I really hope we sign him and believe we will benefit so immensely from it that the defensive worries will be less problematic, especially if we have fullbacks that truly fit Pep's philosophy -- which seems sure to happen.


I would give the combined value of sanchez x 3 for Mbappe. He will be a savage footballer, we should be well in there before his value reaches 300m in a few years.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby PrezIke » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:06 pm

American Cityzens podcast went over the point I was making about Sanchez being more than a "luxury" signing.

We scored 80 goals this season in the PL.

Kun with 20.

Our wingers scored a grand total of 16 out of those 80.

The rest from central oriented players.

Sane and Sterling scored 12 combined. Nolito had 4 and that was early in the season.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Spurge » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:04 pm

Sam Lee on twitter saying the deal is done in the region of £60m and will be concluded after confeds cup
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby PrezIke » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:26 pm

Spurge wrote:Sam Lee on twitter saying the deal is done in the region of £60m and will be concluded after confeds cup


I will jump for joy if this happens.

Those against this, sorry, y'all are mad. We will be a beast with Alexis on the left, Kun and either Jesus or Sane on the right next season.

Cannot wait.

Fingers crossed.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby sheblue » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:53 pm

PrezIke wrote:
Spurge wrote:Sam Lee on twitter saying the deal is done in the region of £60m and will be concluded after confeds cup


I will jump for joy if this happens.

Those against this, sorry, y'all are mad. We will be a beast with Alexis on the left, Kun and either Jesus or Sane on the right next season.

Cannot wait.

Fingers crossed.


Let's hope he can score plenty of goals because if we don't get out shit together and sign three decent defenders we will conceade loads....
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby nottsblue » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:12 pm

sheblue wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
Spurge wrote:Sam Lee on twitter saying the deal is done in the region of £60m and will be concluded after confeds cup


I will jump for joy if this happens.

Those against this, sorry, y'all are mad. We will be a beast with Alexis on the left, Kun and either Jesus or Sane on the right next season.

Cannot wait.

Fingers crossed.


Let's hope he can score plenty of goals because if we don't get out shit together and sign three decent defenders we will conceade loads....

Only the rags, spuds and chavs conceded less. I think regardless of who we sign we will be better defensively if only for the fact we have had Pep for a year and will have got to grips a bit better of what he expects and wants us to do.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:31 pm

nottsblue wrote:
sheblue wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
Spurge wrote:Sam Lee on twitter saying the deal is done in the region of £60m and will be concluded after confeds cup


I will jump for joy if this happens.

Those against this, sorry, y'all are mad. We will be a beast with Alexis on the left, Kun and either Jesus or Sane on the right next season.

Cannot wait.

Fingers crossed.


Let's hope he can score plenty of goals because if we don't get out shit together and sign three decent defenders we will conceade loads....

Only the rags, spuds and chavs conceded less. I think regardless of who we sign we will be better defensively if only for the fact we have had Pep for a year and will have got to grips a bit better of what he expects and wants us to do.


..........and if Bravo is loaned out/sold elsewhere.
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Re: Alexi Sanchez

Postby nottsblue » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:39 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
sheblue wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
Spurge wrote:Sam Lee on twitter saying the deal is done in the region of £60m and will be concluded after confeds cup


I will jump for joy if this happens.

Those against this, sorry, y'all are mad. We will be a beast with Alexis on the left, Kun and either Jesus or Sane on the right next season.

Cannot wait.

Fingers crossed.


Let's hope he can score plenty of goals because if we don't get out shit together and sign three decent defenders we will conceade loads....

Only the rags, spuds and chavs conceded less. I think regardless of who we sign we will be better defensively if only for the fact we have had Pep for a year and will have got to grips a bit better of what he expects and wants us to do.


..........and if Bravo is loaned out/sold elsewhere.

Doubt he will start many games in PL. Unless the new fella isn't much kop.
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