littlebig wrote: Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
littlebig wrote:I never got the disrespecting our own organisation's people thing. Critical analysis fair enough and I understand people's frustrations but the disrespect thing is a bit baffling.
These people you are talking about are NOT the club. The supporters are. Chairmen, managers, players, executive people and even stadiums come and go. Only never changing thing, the core, are the supporters. Txiki gets paid millions to play Football Manager 2017 Platinum Edition for living. And under his watch the team has turned from exciting and balanced group of young players into very unbalanced group of players and lot of money has been thrown at players who were supposed to be on their prime yet turned out to be shit.
In just about any walk of life, not only in one where you get paid millions for the risk, you'd be close to getting sacked with his track record. How someone can't see thatis bit baffling.
I do see that NQDP, as i said "Critical analysis fair enough". My point was more to do with the approach of using disrespect to criticise, just doesn't feel right to go that route.
We'll have to agree to disagree on who/what constitutes the club as i feel that, as well as all the other elements that you mention, the people who work for the club ARE the club, be that the tea lady, players or the CEO. As an aside i would argue that the only never changing thing is the club culture, the ethos.
In my 33 years of following this club I've seen so many chairmen I've lost count, dozens of managers, thousands of players and endless number of people working for the club. Sure there were people along the way who represented what I would call "City way". Chappy, John Wardle, Pablo Zabaleta, Vincent Kompany, Jim Cassell and even Roberto Mancini to mention few in recent history. But they all were or turned out to be supporters as well.
I don't agree that even Club culture is permanent. I think we have actually completely revamped the culture since the takeover even including things like badge, the stadium and evrything from how players eat to what sort of supporter experience they offer (though ticket office still lives in fucking stone age and always seem to mess up everything for me). I'll say it again, only permanent thing in this have been supporters.City 'til I die and all that.