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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Chinners » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:48 pm

I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Justified logic » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:32 pm

Is Tosin definitely gone?
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby phips » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:06 am

Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

disagree. along with dumping Bony i really wanted Mangala gone. he's just not good imo.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby aaron bond » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:48 am

phips wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

disagree. along with dumping Bony i really wanted Mangala gone. he's just not good imo.


And Stones/Otamendi are?

Mangala has had some excellent games for us. He clearly has his faults but he has put in some great performances against strong centre forwards such as Costa.

I think it's almost universally accepted that Otamendi is useless and more people are finally recognising that Stones is not good enough.

Mangala might not be a top class defender but he probably has had more good games for us than the other two.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby john@staustell » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:41 am

Well that was a waste of time. We must be loaded now
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Justified logic » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:33 am

Justified logic wrote:Is Tosin definitely gone?
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Dunnylad » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:01 am

Justified logic wrote:Is Tosin definitely gone?

I think he's still here nothing from Sunderland indicating he has signed
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby CrownPointBlue » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:19 am

phips wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

disagree. along with dumping Bony i really wanted Mangala gone. he's just not good imo.


Time for Pep to prove his coaching credentials by improving Mango into being a quality squad player.

He's got a lot of natural attributes to work with. Over to you Pep.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby john@staustell » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:25 am

CrownPointBlue wrote:
phips wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

disagree. along with dumping Bony i really wanted Mangala gone. he's just not good imo.


Time for Pep to prove his coaching credentials by improving Mango into being a quality squad player.

He's got a lot of natural attributes to work with. Over to you Pep.


You're missing the point mate. Evans wasn't wanted quite so much because of his physical prowess, but he apparently is known as a leader and allegedly has a bit of a brain.

If Kompany gets crocked we are fucked, end of story, mark my words. With Mangala it won't make any difference, however well he man-marks people. With Evans we would have a sort of 'leader-cover'!

And Arsenal are a bunch of cunts. They have 2 months to get a replacement for Sanchez and try about 8 hours before the window shuts. I hope he goes on strike.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:15 am

Eli still might go back to Spain it seems, which would keep Tosin with us I imagine rather than a loan to Sunderland.
Zinchenko is another who could go, Girona has been mentioned. There isn't room in our CL squad for Delph, Mangala and Zinchenko, but that may not be a consideration.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Dameerto » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:25 am

Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

I like the guy too. As a fourth defender it's better than getting rinced by selling him at a loss THEN laying out big money on someone who's not an improvement.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:30 am

johnny crossan wrote:Eli still might go back to Spain it seems, which would keep Tosin with us I imagine rather than a loan to Sunderland.
Zinchenko is another who could go, Girona has been mentioned. There isn't room in our CL squad for Delph, Mangala and Zinchenko, but that may not be a consideration.


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Bravo

Walker *
Mendy
Danilo
Kompany
Otamendi
Stones *
Mangala

Fernandinho
Yaya
Gundogan
Delph*

Silva
DeBruyne
Bernardo
Sterling*
Sane

Aguero
Jesus

*association trained

Delph and Manga fit unless I've got something wrong? That's just 16 non-association trained so there's room for one more, Zinchenko.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:35 am

Dameerto wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

I like the guy too. As a fourth defender it's better than getting rinced by selling him at a loss THEN laying out big money on someone who's not an improvement.

If he doesn't get shipped out today they'll have to find him a new shirt number or take it back off Bernardo Silva :?
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:41 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:Eli still might go back to Spain it seems, which would keep Tosin with us I imagine rather than a loan to Sunderland.
Zinchenko is another who could go, Girona has been mentioned. There isn't room in our CL squad for Delph, Mangala and Zinchenko, but that may not be a consideration.


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Bravo

Walker *
Mendy
Danilo
Kompany
Otamendi
Stones *
Mangala

Fernandinho
Yaya
Gundogan
Delph*

Silva
DeBruyne
Bernardo
Sterling*
Sane

Aguero
Jesus

*association trained

Delph and Manga fit unless I've got something wrong? That's just 16 non-association trained so there's room for one more, Zinchenko.

I was thinking the third keeper is now Muric, who would have to be an A lister, but maybe three keepers is not a requirement and if Ederson or Bravo gets crocked there is a regulation that says they can be replaced irrespective of eligibility.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:43 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:Eli still might go back to Spain it seems, which would keep Tosin with us I imagine rather than a loan to Sunderland.
Zinchenko is another who could go, Girona has been mentioned. There isn't room in our CL squad for Delph, Mangala and Zinchenko, but that may not be a consideration.


Ederson
Bravo

Walker *
Mendy
Danilo
Kompany
Otamendi
Stones *
Mangala

Fernandinho
Yaya
Gundogan
Delph*

Silva
DeBruyne
Bernardo
Sterling*
Sane

Aguero
Jesus

*association trained

Delph and Manga fit unless I've got something wrong? That's just 16 non-association trained so there's room for one more, Zinchenko.

I was thinking the third keeper is now Muric, who would have to be an A lister, but maybe three keepers is not a requirement and if Ederson or Bravo gets crocked there is a regulation that says they can be replaced irrespective of eligibility.


Grimshaw may get the third keeper spot. Muric becomes eligible for B list in January, if we're still in it.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Dubciteh » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:06 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

I like the guy too. As a fourth defender it's better than getting rinced by selling him at a loss THEN laying out big money on someone who's not an improvement.

If he doesn't get shipped out today they'll have to find him a new shirt number or take it back off Bernardo Silva :?


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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby sidSmith » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:15 am

Surely Mangala is a better option than fucking Evans!!

When he was at the rags and his name was on the team sheet I'd feel more confident on us getting a result, to think we were apparently close to having him in our squad is incomprehensible.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby phips » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:08 pm

aaron bond wrote:
phips wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

disagree. along with dumping Bony i really wanted Mangala gone. he's just not good imo.


And Stones/Otamendi are?
Mangala has had some excellent games for us. He clearly has his faults but he has put in some great performances against strong centre forwards such as Costa.

I think it's almost universally accepted that Otamendi is useless and more people are finally recognising that Stones is not good enough.

Mangala might not be a top class defender but he probably has had more good games for us than the other two.

everyone always seems mention his debut vs Costa (and i think there was a 2nd vs. Costa and 1 vs Zlatan...maybe not) where he was good.

however, he is far too physical, cannot pass to save his life, has poor positional play, and doesnt appear to have a football brain.

Otamendi is far better. yes, he has his shameful diving and his ludicrous lunges (or whatever you wanna call them), but he can actually defend and he's been much better alongside Kompany this year and last year.
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:11 pm

sidSmith wrote:Surely Mangala is a better option than fucking Evans!!

When he was at the rags and his name was on the team sheet I'd feel more confident on us getting a result, to think we were apparently close to having him in our squad is incomprehensible.


Agreed, always felt more confident when Jonny facing us; and if he was with O'Shea it was off to the bookies :D
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Re: Transfer Deadline Day Events

Postby iwasthere2012 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:16 pm

phips wrote:
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phips wrote:
Chinners wrote:I'm happy Mangala is staying, he's not looked too bad in pre-season ... we'll see

disagree. along with dumping Bony i really wanted Mangala gone. he's just not good imo.


And Stones/Otamendi are?
Mangala has had some excellent games for us. He clearly has his faults but he has put in some great performances against strong centre forwards such as Costa.

I think it's almost universally accepted that Otamendi is useless and more people are finally recognising that Stones is not good enough.

Mangala might not be a top class defender but he probably has had more good games for us than the other two.

everyone always seems mention his debut vs Costa (and i think there was a 2nd vs. Costa and 1 vs Zlatan...maybe not) where he was good.

however, he is far too physical, cannot pass to save his life, has poor positional play, and doesnt appear to have a football brain.

Otamendi is far better. yes, he has his shameful diving and his ludicrous lunges (or whatever you wanna call them), but he can actually defend and he's been much better alongside Kompany this year and last year.


Damn right Phips, but the argument is that having said all that, most would still prefer him to JFE.
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