Swales4ever wrote:iwasthere2012 wrote:Neither do I.
Not bothered about Barcelona.
Don't particularly enjoy the tippy tippy shit for shits sake that I think has by and large been found out in Europe and won't work in England for us,because we don't enjoy the privileges that a team like Barcelona do in their league, or in Europe for that matter.
CL matters to Pep's bosses and he will live and die by meeting their targets.
Whether we agree with anything he does or says doesn't come into it.
Some like him some don't.
Some like Pellers, some like Mancini, some didn't.
After Pep goes it will be the same with the next guy.
I'm largely enjoying the football I'm seeing from us and I think a lot but not all of our problems have been addressed.
I certainly see something more in this team than last years.
I think if we get a fair game every week this will grow and this team will win something this year. Hopefully the league.
I'll be happy with that.
I think this is the year. Pep has to produce. I don't care about what he says or what he is reported to have said. The media are on a crusade anyway.
Actions on the field and producing a team that will bleed for the jersey are what is important. If he does that but his first love is Barca, so be it.
Nothing to argue with this.
difference in sensibilities are integral part of debate charm.
For obvious reason I can't share Carl's and many others' patriotism, but I explained why I do share the whole rest of such argument. and it's not as petty as it may seem as it impacts the perception of The Club worldwide.
As an infamous "Mancini licker", I always thought that one of the few possible improvement on Bob would have been Pep, accorded with our Owner's benchmark.
I have been doing it, because I came across with the idea that Pep was going to become a managerial genius long ago when, at the end of his playing career, then adoreded skipper of his beloved Barca, Catalunya flagship, being fairly political he could have walked into whatever elective Office.
instead, he moved to end his career at a shitty bottom Serie A side, just to learn, first hand, the misterious ways to overly complicated italian tacticism: as humble and proactive as you can get.
Actually, what I always wished for the sake of City is the building of a steady leadership, capable to grow into a dinasty.
I stated many times that one of the reasons why I love English football is the managerial model which, when ticks all the boxes, creates an irresistible force.
Many believe that Pep is here on just a stop of the roundtrip.
I am not that convinced that, having finally grabbed him, the Club doesnt have the arguments to have him stay for the long haul.
as You say, his fate will be determined by his production, even tho I wouldnt be so strict in terms of this year or die.
And you are also right at saying that CL matters to Pep's bosses, but what actually matters to them is shining on the big stage, for obvious promotional reasons. Starring (i.e winning the pot) would only be the icing on a cake that City, sonner or later, will be eating. and not only once. It will matter also to us then, cuz then will be the moment when the haters will have to shut the fuck on the historyless nonsense.
For the same reasons, all those who would like to see the Club fighting back the powers that be - me included - are deluded. Revolution doesnt fit with Promotion biz. aiming to be part of the establishment does.
After 4 years wasted going backwards, here's hoping that the next guy is not even in distant sight.
but as you can teach me, the ultimate beauty of being City is the hard way.
Agree with much of this.
I think a degree of consistency & longevity is needed now for all of the clubs &Peps philosophies to become institutionalised.
It will help if we win the revolting CL but I'd like to win 3 PLs on the bounce.