harry kane - world class?

[Dameerto]

He's playing 'world class' at the moment. Is he a world class striker? Nope. Not yet.

Remember when Bony was world class for those 12 months?

Good point - is he in a purple patch or has he really developed into a very good centre forward? And what's his international record like because I can't remember any outstanding performances for England off the top of my head.

74 in 97 is one hell of a purple patch...

Wilfried Bony has 101 Prem goals in a total of 179 appearances - can I call that context?

[nottsblue]

He's playing 'world class' at the moment. Is he a world class striker? Nope. Not yet.

Remember when Bony was world class for those 12 months?

Good point - is he in a purple patch or has he really developed into a very good centre forward? And what's his international record like because I can't remember any outstanding performances for England off the top of my head.

74 in 97 is one hell of a purple patch...

Wilfried Bony has 101 Prem goals in a total of 179 appearances - can I call that context?

Club Edit
As of match played 27 December 2016[73][74]
Club Season League Cup League Cup Europe Total
Division Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Sparta Prague B 2007–08 Bohemian Football League 14 2 — — — 14 2
Sparta Prague 2008–09 Czech First League 16 3 0 0 — 0 0 16 3
2009–10 Czech First League 29 9 0 0 — 6 1 35 10
2010–11[75] Czech First League 14 10 0 0 — 10 7 24 17
Total 59 22 0 0 — 16 8 75 30
Vitesse 2010–11[75] Eredivisie 7 3 0 0 — 0 0 7 3
2011–12[76] Eredivisie 28 12 2 1 — 0 0 30 13
2012–13[77] Eredivisie 30 31 2 4 — 4 2 36 37
Total 65 46 4 5 — 4 2 73 53
Swansea City 2013–14[78] Premier League 34 17 2 3 1 1 11 5 48 26
2014–15[79] Premier League 20 9 0 0 2 0 — 22 9
Total 54 26 2 3 3 1 11 5 70 35
Manchester City 2014–15[79] Premier League 10 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 12 2
2015–16[80] Premier League 26 4 0 0 3 2 5 2 34 8
Total 36 6 0 0 3 2 7 2 46 10
Stoke City (loan) 2016–17[53] Premier League 10 2 0 0 1 0 — 11 2
Club total 238 104 6 8 7 3 38 17 289 132

No he hasn't.

[Green & Blue]

I don't particularly like him as a footballer even though the stats clearly indicate he's better than most.

Thinking of getting him in my fantasy football team, only sure way of him coming off this run of form he's on.

Not sure why i don't like him, think it's because I could see him playing for the Rag's in the future. I wish he'd stop talking through his nose, it's a case of having to change the channel every time he does an interview.

[johnny crossan]

Club Edit
As of match played 27 December 2016[73][74]
Club Season League Cup League Cup Europe Total
Division Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Sparta Prague B 2007–08 Bohemian Football League 14 2 — — — 14 2
Sparta Prague 2008–09 Czech First League 16 3 0 0 — 0 0 16 3
2009–10 Czech First League 29 9 0 0 — 6 1 35 10
2010–11[75] Czech First League 14 10 0 0 — 10 7 24 17
Total 59 22 0 0 — 16 8 75 30
Vitesse 2010–11[75] Eredivisie 7 3 0 0 — 0 0 7 3
2011–12[76] Eredivisie 28 12 2 1 — 0 0 30 13
2012–13[77] Eredivisie 30 31 2 4 — 4 2 36 37
Total 65 46 4 5 — 4 2 73 53
Swansea City 2013–14[78] Premier League 34 17 2 3 1 1 11 5 48 26
2014–15[79] Premier League 20 9 0 0 2 0 — 22 9
Total 54 26 2 3 3 1 11 5 70 35
Manchester City 2014–15[79] Premier League 10 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 12 2
2015–16[80] Premier League 26 4 0 0 3 2 5 2 34 8
Total 36 6 0 0 3 2 7 2 46 10
Stoke City (loan) 2016–17[53] Premier League 10 2 0 0 1 0 — 11 2
Club total 238 104 6 8 7 3 38 17 289 132

No he hasn't.

I wouldn't like to see you die in a ditch over this love affair NB but your faithful friend will no doubt be there if you do

[nottsblue]

Club Edit
As of match played 27 December 2016[73][74]
Club Season League Cup League Cup Europe Total
Division Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Sparta Prague B 2007–08 Bohemian Football League 14 2 — — — 14 2
Sparta Prague 2008–09 Czech First League 16 3 0 0 — 0 0 16 3
2009–10 Czech First League 29 9 0 0 — 6 1 35 10
2010–11[75] Czech First League 14 10 0 0 — 10 7 24 17
Total 59 22 0 0 — 16 8 75 30
Vitesse 2010–11[75] Eredivisie 7 3 0 0 — 0 0 7 3
2011–12[76] Eredivisie 28 12 2 1 — 0 0 30 13
2012–13[77] Eredivisie 30 31 2 4 — 4 2 36 37
Total 65 46 4 5 — 4 2 73 53
Swansea City 2013–14[78] Premier League 34 17 2 3 1 1 11 5 48 26
2014–15[79] Premier League 20 9 0 0 2 0 — 22 9
Total 54 26 2 3 3 1 11 5 70 35
Manchester City 2014–15[79] Premier League 10 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 12 2
2015–16[80] Premier League 26 4 0 0 3 2 5 2 34 8
Total 36 6 0 0 3 2 7 2 46 10
Stoke City (loan) 2016–17[53] Premier League 10 2 0 0 1 0 — 11 2
Club total 238 104 6 8 7 3 38 17 289 132

No he hasn't.

I wouldn't like to see you die in a ditch over this love affair NB but your faithful friend will no doubt be there if you do

Haha.

Each to their own JC, but Kane's stats can't be ignored. He clearly divides opinion on his worthiness and the supposed "world class" tag that is being bandied about. As it goes, earlier in thread I noted I was of the opinion he isn't in that bracket. But the lad scores goals and for a striker that's the only currency in circulation for me

[Swales4ever]

He is world class.

Just to put it out there. Would you want him in our team if we didn't had Sergio?

Don't think he's a good enough footballer PP. incredible goalscorer but as Pep said about Aguero last year, it's about more than just goals.

Can you elaborate?

I had the same opinion, that he is more of a player that fits where the entire team works for him, instead of him working for the benefit of the squad. But in the past year, I saw him coming back very deep to help his mates. I think he can fit in a team like Chelsea, Bayern, Real or filth, but not in one like ours or Barcelona that have fantastic pace and reaction speed.

You said it Yourself, Spiderman: here, he would be another Barca's Zlatancunt.

[johnny crossan]

I wouldn't like to see you die in a ditch over this love affair NB but your faithful friend will no doubt be there if you do

Haha.

Each to their own JC, but Kane's stats can't be ignored. He clearly divides opinion on his worthiness and the supposed "world class" tag that is being bandied about. As it goes, earlier in thread I noted I was of the opinion he isn't in that bracket. But the lad scores goals and for a striker that's the only currency in circulation for me

Sunday Suppository agree with you anyway NB, he beats Morata and Lukaku 3-0 as the best PL striker -
Aguero not even in the frame

[nottsblue]

I wouldn't like to see you die in a ditch over this love affair NB but your faithful friend will no doubt be there if you do

Haha.

Each to their own JC, but Kane's stats can't be ignored. He clearly divides opinion on his worthiness and the supposed "world class" tag that is being bandied about. As it goes, earlier in thread I noted I was of the opinion he isn't in that bracket. But the lad scores goals and for a striker that's the only currency in circulation for me

Sunday Suppository agree with you anyway NB, he beats Morata and Lukaku 3-0 as the best PL striker -
Aguero not even in the frame

That is ridiculous. But it's also a separate point. Whether another player is rated or not shouldn't have a bearing on another's.

Kun is the best PL striker currently and over the last five years. But that isn't to say other strikers are decent

[Nigels Tackle]

He's playing 'world class' at the moment. Is he a world class striker? Nope. Not yet.

Remember when Bony was world class for those 12 months?

Good point - is he in a purple patch or has he really developed into a very good centre forward? And what's his international record like because I can't remember any outstanding performances for England off the top of my head.

74 in 97 is one hell of a purple patch...

Wilfried Bony has 101 Prem goals in a total of 179 appearances - can I call that context?

a candidate for worst post of year. possibly decade.

[FA cup winners 2006]

For me, he is a very good finisher but he is not world class and never will be. Spurs are completely set up to serve him. He doesn't have to drop off and get involved in the build up play and that suits spurs but with that set up they will never be that top level team that they should be aspiring to be.

His limitations are visible in every game. Even yesterday just before half time kane received the ball down the right wing. Spurs had a player bursting through the middle. It was a relatively simple pass through but kane hit the first defender.

Also when he receives the ball within 30 yards of the goal, he never looks up and always tries to work the shot with a low percentage strike rate. It's fine against the weaker teams but he won't get them 6-7 opportunities against the top pl and European teams

[edge275]

The last year or so his goals record has been comparable to Messi and Ronaldo with no signs indicating it’s merely a purple patch. Definitely world class.

[Dameerto]

He's playing 'world class' at the moment. Is he a world class striker? Nope. Not yet.

Remember when Bony was world class for those 12 months?

Good point - is he in a purple patch or has he really developed into a very good centre forward? And what's his international record like because I can't remember any outstanding performances for England off the top of my head.

74 in 97 is one hell of a purple patch...

Wilfried Bony has 101 Prem goals in a total of 179 appearances - can I call that context?

Club Edit
As of match played 27 December 2016[73][74]
Club Season League Cup League Cup Europe Total
Division Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Sparta Prague B 2007–08 Bohemian Football League 14 2 — — — 14 2
Sparta Prague 2008–09 Czech First League 16 3 0 0 — 0 0 16 3
2009–10 Czech First League 29 9 0 0 — 6 1 35 10
2010–11[75] Czech First League 14 10 0 0 — 10 7 24 17
Total 59 22 0 0 — 16 8 75 30
Vitesse 2010–11[75] Eredivisie 7 3 0 0 — 0 0 7 3
2011–12[76] Eredivisie 28 12 2 1 — 0 0 30 13
2012–13[77] Eredivisie 30 31 2 4 — 4 2 36 37
Total 65 46 4 5 — 4 2 73 53
Swansea City 2013–14[78] Premier League 34 17 2 3 1 1 11 5 48 26
2014–15[79] Premier League 20 9 0 0 2 0 — 22 9
Total 54 26 2 3 3 1 11 5 70 35
Manchester City 2014–15[79] Premier League 10 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 12 2
2015–16[80] Premier League 26 4 0 0 3 2 5 2 34 8
Total 36 6 0 0 3 2 7 2 46 10
Stoke City (loan) 2016–17[53] Premier League 10 2 0 0 1 0 — 11 2
Club total 238 104 6 8 7 3 38 17 289 132

No he hasn't.

You're right, 68 of them were from before he joined Swansea. I need to put my glasses on. He's not really a good argument for anything is he?

[Dameerto]

He's playing 'world class' at the moment. Is he a world class striker? Nope. Not yet.

Remember when Bony was world class for those 12 months?

Good point - is he in a purple patch or has he really developed into a very good centre forward? And what's his international record like because I can't remember any outstanding performances for England off the top of my head.

74 in 97 is one hell of a purple patch...

Wilfried Bony has 101 Prem goals in a total of 179 appearances - can I call that context?

a candidate for worst post of year. possibly decade.

Great post!!
I assume I'm up against you for the dubious honour?

PS Kane is still a cnut.

[PrezIke]

I thought he was englands worst player at the last euros. If he hadn't had been taking corners wouldn't have noticed he was playing in most of the games. He stats are very impressive and I think the whole Spurs system is built around him. Very good goal scorer in that side but never saw much more to his games but that's strikers job and what wins games so it's hard to argue with the call .

He was poor in the Euros, as were many England players. Why Hodgson had him taking set pieces I have no idea but he's playing much better now, and if you watch the goals he is scoring they are pretty impressive.

[BobbyDazzler]

He's too one dimensional to be world class for me. Tottingham would score a lot more if he wasn't so greedy. He's managed an entire twelve assists in a hundred and twenty odd games. He shoots on sight even when there's a better option, or an easy pass on for somebody else. Obviously it's his job to put the ball in the back of the net, but his goals per game is exactly the same as Sergio's, and Sergio has averaged twice as many assists. If we're talking world class premier league strikers, does he compare to Henry, Sergio, Van Persie at Arsenal or Suarez? I don't reckon so. And he breathes through his mouth.

[Tokyo Blue]

To be world class, he has got to do the business for England. Until then...

[johnny crossan]

To be world class, he has got to do the business for England. Until then...

[Tokyo Blue]

A six-legged horse wearing maroon cords?

[johnny crossan]

A six-legged horse wearing maroon cords?

it's the five-legged ones my old grandad told me to be wary of

[Foreverinbluedreams]

A six-legged horse wearing maroon cords?

it's the five-legged ones my old grandad told me to be wary of

There was one of them that grazed on my local football pitch when I was a kid, one of his legs had a terrible STI.