harry kane - world class?

[Mikhail Chigorin]

2017: - 8 hat tricks. 39 PL goals. 50 odd in total.

Sometimes stats do tell a story

Just a thought though NB, but the cognoscenti in the media claim that City can't be the greatest PL team ever, because we haven't yet won anything. Moreover, there's a stream of inspired thought saying the PL must be garbage, for one team (City) to be walking away with it at the moment in such a dramatic fashion.

Could the same arguments be used against Kane in that he can't be regarded as world class because he hasn't won anything yet and, also, is he only scoring the goals he is, because the sides inthe PL are all garbage ??

[Pretty Boy Lee]

My personally thoughts on world class are would you be in the conversation as one of the best 5 it so in your position? Each team has a different style and some work best in different systems so it’s never just 11 for me.

Having said that I can’t think of 5 number 9’s clearly better than Kane so for my money yes he is world class.

[sandman]

No he is not, he is a great player and I would love to have him, but he is not world class.

[Beefymcfc]

He's got potential but not quite there yet for me. He's proving to be a real quality striker but needs to actually put himself in a position to prove he can be the one to win things for his club, that's how a World Class player is judged.

[edge275]

He's got potential but not quite there yet for me. He's proving to be a real quality striker but needs to actually put himself in a position to prove he can be the one to win things for his club, that's how a World Class player is judged.

By that merit, was Shearer not world class? I think your judgement is harsh that a player needs to win things to be thought of as world class. Although it's very unlikely in the modern day, what if someone the calibre of Messi didn't play for a top club?

On the flip side, you've also got the likes of Kleberson who has won the world cup, and Djimi Traore who is a Champions League winner.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

He's got potential but not quite there yet for me. He's proving to be a real quality striker but needs to actually put himself in a position to prove he can be the one to win things for his club, that's how a World Class player is judged.

By that merit, was Shearer not world class? I think your judgement is harsh that a player needs to win things to be thought of as world class. Although it's very unlikely in the modern day, what if someone the calibre of Messi didn't play for a top club?

On the flip side, you've also got the likes of Kleberson who has won the world cup, and Djimi Traore who is a Champions League winner.

Shearer won the PL for Blackburn.

[stevefromdonny]

sure hes world class, hes English that's why, wouldn't mind him but lets see how he does in world cup

[budfox]

Perhaps we need to define "World Class".

It might mean good enough to represent your country, or it might mean that if a squad to represent the world was picked, you'd be in it.

By the first measure Kane and countless others qualify. By the second measure he's nowhere near.

[Dimples]

Maradona at his best would make any team with any style better. Same with Messi, Tranny, Fat Ron, Henry, Fowler, Van Nis, Van Persie, Bergkamp, Anelka, Kun, Van Basten, Rush, Rooney, and so on a long list. They are all flexibly and world class.
IMO Kane would not adapt to different styles and make any team better. So therefore he is not world class. He is an excellent goal scorer in a team built to suit his style when that team play well. Also he has yet to pass the test of time.
Maradona won a world cup and Italian league surrounded by average players

[Dubciteh]

Maradona at his best would make any team with any style better. Same with Messi, Tranny, Fat Ron, Henry, Fowler, Van Nis, Van Persie, Bergkamp, Anelka, Kun, Van Basten, Rush, Rooney, and so on a long list. They are all flexibly and world class.
IMO Kane would not adapt to different styles and make any team better. So therefore he is not world class. He is an excellent goal scorer in a team built to suit his style when that team play well. Also he has yet to pass the test of time.
Maradona won a world cup and Italian league surrounded by average players

Kane is better than fowler, RVP, Anelka and possibly a few others for a start. Your criteria is flawed in my opinion,

If im picking a world 11 and want an out and out centre forward in a particular system, id go with Kane. He is currently the best number 9 in the world so yes for me he is world class. The guys just scored over 50 goals in a year for a team that didnt win anything in the toughest league in the world(apparently) that is no easy thing to do.

[zabbadabbado]

tbh I think the system we play, could turn any half decent striker in to a prolific goal scorer over a season .It is incredible how many chances we create most games.

Don’t get me wrong,i think Kane is a decent striker with a high conversion rate. He is ideal for Spurs, because they need to convert fewer chances in to goals each game from their build up play.They are heavily dependent on his goals.

We create that many chances most games, with goals coming from all areas, that I think we can afford to invest in strikers who are not the finished article like Kane. A striker’s build up play is as integral to our system as their goals. Even when Jesus is not scoring, he is often playing well by dragging defenders all over the Pitch. Aguero is also starting to do this much more. Last game against Bournemouth his off the Ball movement was excellent.

[Mase]

Maradona at his best would make any team with any style better. Same with Messi, Tranny, Fat Ron, Henry, Fowler, Van Nis, Van Persie, Bergkamp, Anelka, Kun, Van Basten, Rush, Rooney, and so on a long list. They are all flexibly and world class.
IMO Kane would not adapt to different styles and make any team better. So therefore he is not world class. He is an excellent goal scorer in a team built to suit his style when that team play well. Also he has yet to pass the test of time.
Maradona won a world cup and Italian league surrounded by average players

Kane is better than fowler, RVP, Anelka and possibly a few others for a start. Your criteria is flawed in my opinion,

If im picking a world 11 and want an out and out centre forward in a particular system, id go with Kane. He is currently the best number 9 in the world so yes for me he is world class. The guys just scored over 50 goals in a year for a team that didnt win anything in the toughest league in the world(apparently) that is no easy thing to do.

Fowler in his day was one of the best natural goal scorers I’ve ever seen.

[Nigels Tackle]

his record is world class. his problem is that he speaks like a mong and looks like one too.

[Chinners]

Maradona at his best would make any team with any style better. Same with Messi, Tranny, Fat Ron, Henry, Fowler, Van Nis, Van Persie, Bergkamp, Anelka, Kun, Van Basten, Rush, Rooney, and so on a long list. They are all flexibly and world class.
IMO Kane would not adapt to different styles and make any team better. So therefore he is not world class. He is an excellent goal scorer in a team built to suit his style when that team play well. Also he has yet to pass the test of time.
Maradona won a world cup and Italian league surrounded by average players

Kane is better than fowler, RVP, Anelka and possibly a few others for a start. Your criteria is flawed in my opinion,

If im picking a world 11 and want an out and out centre forward in a particular system, id go with Kane. He is currently the best number 9 in the world so yes for me he is world class. The guys just scored over 50 goals in a year for a team that didnt win anything in the toughest league in the world(apparently) that is no easy thing to do.

Fowler in his day was one of the best natural goal scorers I’ve ever seen.

Agreed! Kane is not as good yet imo but what a year the fella has had, I'd take him any day over Sanchez at present

[edge275]

He's got potential but not quite there yet for me. He's proving to be a real quality striker but needs to actually put himself in a position to prove he can be the one to win things for his club, that's how a World Class player is judged.

By that merit, was Shearer not world class? I think your judgement is harsh that a player needs to win things to be thought of as world class. Although it's very unlikely in the modern day, what if someone the calibre of Messi didn't play for a top club?

On the flip side, you've also got the likes of Kleberson who has won the world cup, and Djimi Traore who is a Champions League winner.

Shearer won the PL for Blackburn.

I am aware he did. However, he did so when he was younger, then allegedly did fuck all for 10 years at Newcastle since he didn't win anything there.

[zabbadabbado]

his record is world class. his problem is that he speaks like a mong and looks like one too.

[Fidel Castro]

As an out and out number 9, still think Lewandowski is better. Kane probably second to him though. Think old school number 9 is a dying breed though, the game is more fluid and athletic nowadays

[Foreverinbluedreams]

As an out and out number 9, still think Lewandowski is better. Kane probably second to him though. Think old school number 9 is a dying breed though, the game is more fluid and athletic nowadays

That's exactly how I see it, Lewandowski over Kane if you're playing a system that accommodates that type of number 9. I would've had Dzeko over Kane until recently.

[Dunne's Half-Time Pint]

He's scored 39(?) goals in 36 prem games this year. That's in a side that probably lost, say, 8 or 9 games. He's also got goals in the CL, home and away.

From memory, I think there are 4 other players in Europe this year with his sort of goal tally - Cavani (Mickey Mouse league), Lewandoski, Ronaldo and Messi. I assume Neymar has a few and I know Dzeko has bagged some.

World class or near enough to make no difference.

[zabbadabbado]

Maradona at his best would make any team with any style better. Same with Messi, Tranny, Fat Ron, Henry, Fowler, Van Nis, Van Persie, Bergkamp, Anelka, Kun, Van Basten, Rush, Rooney, and so on a long list. They are all flexibly and world class.
IMO Kane would not adapt to different styles and make any team better. So therefore he is not world class. He is an excellent goal scorer in a team built to suit his style when that team play well. Also he has yet to pass the test of time.
Maradona won a world cup and Italian league surrounded by average players

Kane is better than fowler, RVP, Anelka and possibly a few others for a start. Your criteria is flawed in my opinion,

If im picking a world 11 and want an out and out centre forward in a particular system, id go with Kane. He is currently the best number 9 in the world so yes for me he is world class. The guys just scored over 50 goals in a year for a team that didnt win anything in the toughest league in the world(apparently) that is no easy thing to do.

Fowler in his day was one of the best natural goal scorers I’ve ever seen.

I agree with that,He was a predator in the box.A natural goal scorer who made it look so simple.

Fowler was a curse against us.

I am also old enough to remember that ginger t**t David Fairclough scoring every time he was subbed on a against us.