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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby Swales4ever » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:40 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:Well, after confirmation of this terrible news can we change the thread title to Bemdy on the unMendy.

you get my vote, sir.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:42 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:Well, after confirmation of this terrible news can we change the thread title to Bemdy on the unMendy.

we'll leave it be until his resurrection in the spring
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:44 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:Well, after confirmation of this terrible news can we change the thread title to Bemdy on the unMendy.

we'll leave it be until his resurrection in the spring


back in time to win the league and european cup then?
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:47 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:Well, after confirmation of this terrible news can we change the thread title to Bemdy on the unMendy.

we'll leave it be until his resurrection in the spring


back in time to win the league and european cup then?

just watched Pep saying the same thing to Jughead
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby PrezIke » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:23 pm

bigblue wrote:https://www.mancity.com/news/first-team/first-team-news/2017/september/benjamin-mendy-man-city-injury-news-update?amp=1

Manchester City FC can confirm that Benjamin Mendy has ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.
The French defender sustained the injury during the first half of the Saturday’s 5-0 Premier League victory at home to Crystal Palace.

After initial tests in Manchester at the start of the week, Benjamin travelled to Barcelona to see a specialist doctor, where further examinations of the knee today confirmed the extent of the injury.

Benjamin will undergo surgery tomorrow in Barcelona, and everyone at the Club wishes him a speedy recovery.

mancity.com will bring you regular updates regarding his rehabilitation.


Fuck. Are there any examples of young, speedy players rupturing their ACL who still play at the same level (or better) once they recover?


https://williamsterett.com/blog-dr-will ... r-injuries

However:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... es-careers

Because they require high-speed changes of direction, the pro sports that carry the highest risk of ACL tears – soccer, football and basketball – are also the ones in which it’s most difficult to make a complete recovery. “It comes down to how much strain you put on the knee joint,” says Dr Tim Hewett, a Mayo Clinic researcher and an expert on the mechanics of ACL injury. “Anything that elicits landing, cutting and pivoting is a greater challenge.”


I can recall two recent, lighting quick NBA players who have recovered from an injured ACL and, honestly, as much as I hate to say this they have never been the same since:

Although, like the other sports, there is a high rate of return to sport in the NBA following ACL reconstruction, the careers of players that have torn an ACL are almost, on average, two years shorter than other players. Playing time, games played and player efficiency ratings are also significantly decreased after the injury.

In addition to monetary factors, players often have to battle outside expectations about recovery time. It’s here where the miraculous recovery from ACL surgery of athletes like Adrian Peterson perhaps unfairly raises the bar for other athletes. In fact that race to return may even increase the possibility of a repeat injury to the ACL. Hewett cites the example of Derrick Rose, who delayed his return to the court after sensing that his knee still didn’t feel normal, as a player that was roundly criticized for a longer than normal recovery.

Most often what dictates recovery is not will or resolve, but the interior of the knee and function of the surrounding muscles. No one, even the best athletes in the world, can beat physiology. Ignore that, and the only reward for a quick recovery might be a short career.


As horribly mad as it is to accept this, I think there is a very good chance we are going to need a new left back for the future and that Mendy may never be the same.

I feel far worse about this than any of Gundogan's injuries.

If Mendy hadn't gotten this injury he was looking like potentially the best left back in the world in the coming years. I hope I am wrong, but I think we need to brace for this as a real possibility. That's sport for you....and typical City, sadly.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:35 pm

PrezIke wrote:As horribly mad as it is to accept this, I think there is a very good chance we are going to need a new left back for the future and that Mendy may never be the same..... If he hadn't gotten this injury he was looking like potentially the best left back in the world in the coming years. That's sport for you....and typical City, sadly.

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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby PrezIke » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:49 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
PrezIke wrote:As horribly mad as it is to accept this, I think there is a very good chance we are going to need a new left back for the future and that Mendy may never be the same..... If he hadn't gotten this injury he was looking like potentially the best left back in the world in the coming years. That's sport for you....and typical City, sadly.

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Benjamin Mendy


I hope he proves us all wrong. He has and is a great character that I have already come to love as a City player, but the issue is this:

Most often what dictates recovery is not will or resolve, but the interior of the knee and function of the surrounding muscles. No one, even the best athletes in the world, can beat physiology. Ignore that, and the only reward for a quick recovery might be a short career.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:32 pm

PrezIke wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
PrezIke wrote:As horribly mad as it is to accept this, I think there is a very good chance we are going to need a new left back for the future and that Mendy may never be the same..... If he hadn't gotten this injury he was looking like potentially the best left back in the world in the coming years. That's sport for you....and typical City, sadly.

"reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated"
Benjamin Mendy


I hope he proves us all wrong. He has and is a great character that I have already come to love as a City player, but the issue is this:

Most often what dictates recovery is not will or resolve, but the interior of the knee and function of the surrounding muscles. No one, even the best athletes in the world, can beat physiology. Ignore that, and the only reward for a quick recovery might be a short career.
the Rusky mafia boys in Monaco and the Chavs will be breathing a sigh of relief anyway.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby Swales4ever » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:34 pm

PrezIke wrote:
bigblue wrote:https://www.mancity.com/news/first-team/first-team-news/2017/september/benjamin-mendy-man-city-injury-news-update?amp=1

Manchester City FC can confirm that Benjamin Mendy has ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.
The French defender sustained the injury during the first half of the Saturday’s 5-0 Premier League victory at home to Crystal Palace.

After initial tests in Manchester at the start of the week, Benjamin travelled to Barcelona to see a specialist doctor, where further examinations of the knee today confirmed the extent of the injury.

Benjamin will undergo surgery tomorrow in Barcelona, and everyone at the Club wishes him a speedy recovery.

mancity.com will bring you regular updates regarding his rehabilitation.


Fuck. Are there any examples of young, speedy players rupturing their ACL who still play at the same level (or better) once they recover?


https://williamsterett.com/blog-dr-will ... r-injuries

However:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... es-careers

Because they require high-speed changes of direction, the pro sports that carry the highest risk of ACL tears – soccer, football and basketball – are also the ones in which it’s most difficult to make a complete recovery. “It comes down to how much strain you put on the knee joint,” says Dr Tim Hewett, a Mayo Clinic researcher and an expert on the mechanics of ACL injury. “Anything that elicits landing, cutting and pivoting is a greater challenge.”


I can recall two recent, lighting quick NBA players who have recovered from an injured ACL and, honestly, as much as I hate to say this they have never been the same since:

Although, like the other sports, there is a high rate of return to sport in the NBA following ACL reconstruction, the careers of players that have torn an ACL are almost, on average, two years shorter than other players. Playing time, games played and player efficiency ratings are also significantly decreased after the injury.

In addition to monetary factors, players often have to battle outside expectations about recovery time. It’s here where the miraculous recovery from ACL surgery of athletes like Adrian Peterson perhaps unfairly raises the bar for other athletes. In fact that race to return may even increase the possibility of a repeat injury to the ACL. Hewett cites the example of Derrick Rose, who delayed his return to the court after sensing that his knee still didn’t feel normal, as a player that was roundly criticized for a longer than normal recovery.

Most often what dictates recovery is not will or resolve, but the interior of the knee and function of the surrounding muscles. No one, even the best athletes in the world, can beat physiology. Ignore that, and the only reward for a quick recovery might be a short career.


As horribly mad as it is to accept this, I think there is a very good chance we are going to need a new left back for the future and that Mendy may never be the same.

I feel far worse about this than any of Gundogan's injuries.

If Mendy hadn't gotten this injury he was looking like potentially the best left back in the world in the coming years. I hope I am wrong, but I think we need to brace for this as a real possibility. That's sport for you....and typical City, sadly.

mate,
NBA are superhumans playing on another galaxy playground. not applicable to barely humans' soccer.

also, for the jack shit I know on the matter, thankfully it's not his leading leg. at least his delivery wont be affected.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:15 am

Mendy was the player he was due to his electric pace - I honestly think he will never ever get that yard back that he had on every player he came up against.

IMO ,we need to plan without him for the future....as fuckign depressing as that sounds, his injury is the mother fucker of all injuries.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby sheblue » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:50 am

We have to start looking for long term back up now with a view to formalising a transfer in January. Of course expect given the situation were going to get shafted big time.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:59 am

Rest in peace Mendy.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:09 am

I feel for the lad, today he has his op an he must be feeling pretty down. If you read this thread Bendy you know we're right behind you. :D
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby RodneyRodney » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:35 am

As I think might have been mentioned in another post some weeks back, there is always the possibility he could eventually fill Yaya's role ; he has many of the attributes for it , and lightning pace isn't quite as important there. Thoughts , anyone ?
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby iwasthere2012 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:03 pm

RodneyRodney wrote:As I think might have been mentioned in another post some weeks back, there is always the possibility he could eventually fill Yaya's role ; he has many of the attributes for it , and lightning pace isn't quite as important there. Thoughts , anyone ?


I know we've not seen much of him, but i didn't see many similarities with Yaya at all.
Speed, strength and a great delivery , he has, or had at least.
I didn't see Yaya's touch and control or even passing short game, speed of thought etc.

He was playing very well in our system but his legendary status in the making has as much to to with people liking his personality and twitterings,
rather than what he has actually done IMO.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby Swales4ever » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:10 pm

Zip.... misplaced post! :oops:
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:11 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
RodneyRodney wrote:As I think might have been mentioned in another post some weeks back, there is always the possibility he could eventually fill Yaya's role ; he has many of the attributes for it , and lightning pace isn't quite as important there. Thoughts , anyone ?


I know we've not seen much of him, but i didn't see many similarities with Yaya at all.
Speed, strength and a great delivery , he has, or had at least.
I didn't see Yaya's touch and control or even passing short game, speed of thought etc.

He was playing very well in our system but his legendary status in the making has as much to to with people liking his personality and twitterings,
rather than what he has actually done IMO.



Them first time crosses though, I don't recall anyone playing for us whipping in first time crosses like that.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby iwasthere2012 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:13 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
iwasthere2012 wrote:
RodneyRodney wrote:As I think might have been mentioned in another post some weeks back, there is always the possibility he could eventually fill Yaya's role ; he has many of the attributes for it , and lightning pace isn't quite as important there. Thoughts , anyone ?


I know we've not seen much of him, but i didn't see many similarities with Yaya at all.
Speed, strength and a great delivery , he has, or had at least.
I didn't see Yaya's touch and control or even passing short game, speed of thought etc.

He was playing very well in our system but his legendary status in the making has as much to to with people liking his personality and twitterings,
rather than what he has actually done IMO.



Them first time crosses though, I don't recall anyone playing for us whipping in first time crosses like that.

Very true, but that's no comparison with Yaya.
Rodney is asking what people think of him eventually filling Yaya's role.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:18 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
iwasthere2012 wrote:
RodneyRodney wrote:As I think might have been mentioned in another post some weeks back, there is always the possibility he could eventually fill Yaya's role ; he has many of the attributes for it , and lightning pace isn't quite as important there. Thoughts , anyone ?


I know we've not seen much of him, but i didn't see many similarities with Yaya at all.
Speed, strength and a great delivery , he has, or had at least.
I didn't see Yaya's touch and control or even passing short game, speed of thought etc.

He was playing very well in our system but his legendary status in the making has as much to to with people liking his personality and twitterings,
rather than what he has actually done IMO.



Them first time crosses though, I don't recall anyone playing for us whipping in first time crosses like that.

Very true, but that's no comparison with Yaya.
Rodney is asking what people think of him eventually filling Yaya's role.


Yeah I know, was more responding to the second part of your post.

Don't see the Yaya comparison myself.
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Re: Bendy On The Mendy?

Postby PrezIke » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:03 pm

His pace + size + power + technical ability is why I referred to him as a Yaya like left back recently and can see why others have thought of it, but that seems like a big switch to play as a centre mid.

Yaya, for all of his work rate and quickness issues at times is actually a good defender when he can be.

I think Mendy can still be a good player even with a bit less pace, which seems like likely to
Me, but just not at the level he was or potentially could have become/was seeming like he might prior.
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