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Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:56 am
by Abu Dhabi
Dameerto wrote:
Abu Dhabi wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Nickyboy wrote:Isn't the prize money funded by the UK TV revenue?

Not that I know of. Why would it be? It often gets talked about in the same sentence by the media, maybe that's why you're thinking it?


It actually is. What else would it be?

Premier League revenue in all it's forms - so sponsorship amongst other things.


Commercial revenue only accounts to 4% of payments made to clubs. Last season it was distributed equally, with each team getting around £4.8M, hardly prize money.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:24 pm
by Dameerto
There's no league sponsor at the moment (or last season) so I'm not surprised the figure is low. Are you saying they wont be using league sponsorship revenue as part of their prize fund in the future?

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:02 pm
by Abu Dhabi
There are a few league sponsors. The league is apparently moving from title sponsor to category sponsors. Barclays was still the banking sponsor of the PL last year, along with different other category sponsors, which contributed 95M.

The previous season Barclays title sponsorship fee was 40M.

In any case, 40M or 150M, its still nothing compared to TV money, which in fact funds the prize money.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:46 pm
by edge275
Pull the draw bridge up. Let the others drown.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:56 pm
by Chinners
It's great that the majority of our supporters are against our club pursuing this. The former 'big 5/6' used to shyte upon us when we were yo-yoing between the divisions and I hate the way we now seem to want to do the same to other clubs.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:17 pm
by Dameerto
Abu Dhabi wrote:There are a few league sponsors. The league is apparently moving from title sponsor to category sponsors. Barclays was still the banking sponsor of the PL last year, along with different other category sponsors, which contributed 95M.

The previous season Barclays title sponsorship fee was 40M.

In any case, 40M or 150M, its still nothing compared to TV money, which in fact funds the prize money.

Makes sense, I guess - about the branding - like 'The NFL' it will be 'The Premier League'. I know their other revenue is a drop in the ocean compared to media but it didn't make sense why it wouldn't be included with the media money when handing it out. (And it still doesnt).

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:08 pm
by Abu Dhabi
I dont really think it is handed out in the same sack, just a matter of media reporting. Team X eventually got 150M; 40M from this and 30M from that etc... but it is not distributed in one go. A lot of the predetermined amounts come in in instalements before the season is finished I would assume.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:43 pm
by CrownPointBlue
Chinners wrote:It's great that the majority of our supporters are against our club pursuing this. The former 'big 5/6' used to shyte upon us when we were yo-yoing between the divisions and I hate the way we now seem to want to do the same to other clubs.


It changed when Sheikh Mansour saved us mate.

We are now a fabulous sports business winning trophies in style with world class players agin clubs who tried to ridicule & screw us.

Don't feck with The Sheikh. He who laughs last .......!!

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:14 am
by Piccsnumberoneblue
Jesus, how many of our fans sound exactly like rags?. This is everything that is wrong with modern football. It's the system that was used to cripple us for years. I was always proud we weren't one of the clubs fucking over the rest of football. And now we're in bed with the bastards.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:16 am
by Piccsnumberoneblue
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Mase wrote:Everyone hates us so fuck it!! West Brom fans and the like booing Sterling last season for no reason? Sound, we'll take all your money then. Wankers.

Don't forger when we pull up the draw-bridge we'll be stuck inside the castle with the scum, the dippers, the tarquins and spuds. Now, that is one fucking stench you wouldn't want in your nostrils.


Spot on

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:43 am
by Socrates
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Jesus, how many of our fans sound exactly like rags?. This is everything that is wrong with modern football. It's the system that was used to cripple us for years. I was always proud we weren't one of the clubs fucking over the rest of football. And now we're in bed with the bastards.


The balance has changed massively since then Piccs. The bottom club gets a ridiculous amount of money even if they are completely shit. A small restructuring would make it more competitive through the season not less. There is nothing rag-like about wanting more competition. Putting the facility fees into prize money wouldn't necessarily benefit the bigger clubs either.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:44 am
by Mase
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Jesus, how many of our fans sound exactly like rags?. This is everything that is wrong with modern football. It's the system that was used to cripple us for years. I was always proud we weren't one of the clubs fucking over the rest of football. And now we're in bed with the bastards.


Ironically accusing people of sounding exactly like rags is a rag-ish thing to do.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:26 am
by Piccsnumberoneblue
Mase wrote:
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Jesus, how many of our fans sound exactly like rags?. This is everything that is wrong with modern football. It's the system that was used to cripple us for years. I was always proud we weren't one of the clubs fucking over the rest of football. And now we're in bed with the bastards.


Ironically accusing people of sounding exactly like rags is a rag-ish thing to do.


Bullshit, these are the same arguments I heard from rags ten, fifteen or twenty years ago. Dress it up how you like, but "people want to watch us most" Is very raggish, as is, "we've invested"
The bigger share we may get, would help create the closed shop we all detested. That's what this is about, not competition within the league.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:07 am
by Mikhail Chigorin
Chinners wrote:It's great that the majority of our supporters are against our club pursuing this. The former 'big 5/6' used to shyte upon us when we were yo-yoing between the divisions and I hate the way we now seem to want to do the same to other clubs.


This is exactly how I think about this particular 'circus'.

City are - and, indeed should always be - better, more honest and more principled than an other Club, simply because we're City and that's what we are. We can't be grubbily and nauseatingly trying to climb upon such a despicable gravy train.

"The more you handle pitch, the more you become besmirched by it"

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:36 am
by CrownPointBlue
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Jesus, how many of our fans sound exactly like rags?. This is everything that is wrong with modern football. It's the system that was used to cripple us for years. I was always proud we weren't one of the clubs fucking over the rest of football. And now we're in bed with the bastards.


Rag ......behave yourself lad.

Your response seems excitable & emotional & not well reasoned.

You seem not to understand the proposal. Have you actually read it .......and then re read it ?

Rag......home,away & abroad since 1958.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:49 am
by Nickyboy
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Mase wrote:
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Jesus, how many of our fans sound exactly like rags?. This is everything that is wrong with modern football. It's the system that was used to cripple us for years. I was always proud we weren't one of the clubs fucking over the rest of football. And now we're in bed with the bastards.


Ironically accusing people of sounding exactly like rags is a rag-ish thing to do.


Bullshit, these are the same arguments I heard from rags ten, fifteen or twenty years ago. Dress it up how you like, but "people want to watch us most" Is very raggish, as is, "we've invested"
The bigger share we may get, would help create the closed shop we all detested. That's what this is about, not competition within the league.


I don't think it should be distributed more to the teams that are watched more. I think a decent percentage should be divided up on merit for league finishing position. Just cos clubs call themselves the top 6 there is no guarantee they're going to finish that high (look at Liverpool and United recently).

I think there should be a real incentive for finishing that one spot higher, will make the league more competitive.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:39 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
If we really wanted a level playing field and competitive league, we should reverse the proposal for TV money and give clubs more the lower they finished in the league.

(Runs away).

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:44 pm
by Dameerto
Abu Dhabi wrote:I dont really think it is handed out in the same sack, just a matter of media reporting. Team X eventually got 150M; 40M from this and 30M from that etc... but it is not distributed in one go. A lot of the predetermined amounts come in in instalements before the season is finished I would assume.

That makes sense.

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:21 pm
by Chinners
CrownPointBlue wrote:
Chinners wrote:It's great that the majority of our supporters are against our club pursuing this. The former 'big 5/6' used to shyte upon us when we were yo-yoing between the divisions and I hate the way we now seem to want to do the same to other clubs.


It changed when Sheikh Mansour saved us mate.

We are now a fabulous sports business winning trophies in style with world class players agin clubs who tried to ridicule & screw us.

Don't feck with The Sheikh. He who laughs last .......!!


Yes, yes it did change, some of it fantastically. Shitting on other clubs thou is a low point for me .... not to you thou by the sounds of it

Re: TV money

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:50 pm
by Piccsnumberoneblue
CrownPointBlue wrote:
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Jesus, how many of our fans sound exactly like rags?. This is everything that is wrong with modern football. It's the system that was used to cripple us for years. I was always proud we weren't one of the clubs fucking over the rest of football. And now we're in bed with the bastards.


Rag ......behave yourself lad.

Your response seems excitable & emotional & not well reasoned.

You seem not to understand the proposal. Have you actually read it .......and then re read it ?

Rag......home,away & abroad since 1958.


Next you'll be supporting a form of FFP because it suits us now we have a ton of cash in earnings.