January Transfer Window

[edge275]

Well, we didn't get Sanchez and it looks like Mahrez is a no. At first sight it looks bad, on the other hand we've said to the world, "We'll pay good money, but you aren't taking the piss!" Which might work out well in the long run.

Not that I’m disagreeing with you, but the upside of paying a large amount of money is it inflates the market even more for everybody else. Plus it would infuriate all our rivals, which is also a Brucey bonus.

[JamieMCFC]

[nottsblue]

Poor. Sell him or keep him

[bigblue]

Poor. Sell him or keep him

eh, I think Everton and Big Sam are perfect for him. He'll excel over there

[nottsblue]

Poor. Sell him or keep him

eh, I think Everton and Big Sam are perfect for him. He'll excel over there

I agree. I think he'd be a great signing for BFS. That's why we shouldn't get bent over by Everton. They have money to spend and are desperate. What good does a loan do us. The way it's going, I could see Stones covering Fernandinho as DM at some point this season. Mangala may yet prove beneficial to still be here until the summer

[phips]

Poor. Sell him or keep him

keep a 5th string CB (4th when Kompany is injured)? Tosin already fits that role.
no one will buy Mangala unless we come close to offloading him for free

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Poor. Sell him or keep him

keep a 5th string CB (4th when Kompany is injured)? Tosin already fits that role.
no one will buy Mangala unless we come close to offloading him for free

If he impresses BFS, at the end of the season he might command a far healthier fee than hitherto has been the case.

[phips]

absolutely.

i was referring to people expecting clubs to have bought him in prior windows or in this most recent one.
he's done absolutely nothing since coming here and has just depreciated it. other clubs have zero incentive to spend any money on him whatsoever. now, if, like you said, he impresses at Everton then maybe theyll come back for him next summer but by no means should anyone be expecting a fee over 20M.

[littlebig]

"other clubs have zero incentive to spend any money on him "

What are you on about phips? He's a decent player who just isn't a fit here. He'll represent value for a number of mid level clubs.

[Chinners]

absolutely.

i was referring to people expecting clubs to have bought him in prior windows or in this most recent one.
he's done absolutely nothing since coming here and has just depreciated it. other clubs have zero incentive to spend any money on him whatsoever. now, if, like you said, he impresses at Everton then maybe theyll come back for him next summer but by no means should anyone be expecting a fee over 20M.

£20mil seems extreamly optimistic at the moment!

[Burt]

absolutely.

i was referring to people expecting clubs to have bought him in prior windows or in this most recent one.
he's done absolutely nothing since coming here and has just depreciated it. other clubs have zero incentive to spend any money on him whatsoever. now, if, like you said, he impresses at Everton then maybe theyll come back for him next summer but by no means should anyone be expecting a fee over 20M.

£20mil seems extreamly optimistic at the moment!

How long has he on his contract? Can only be a year at most?

[Chinners]

Couple of years at least as he only signed a new one 18 months ago

[PrezIke]

If Jonny fucking Evans was worth whatever numbers were being floated around at the time then Mangala is worth 30m.

Of course - He's a 26 year old french international - who was doubting he is worth less than 30 year old Jonny Evans???

Why were Arsenal, whose defence is quite a problem, interested in JFE and not Mangala just this past January?

Heard such offers of interest for Mangala?

A player who has had plenty of chances to prove himself with us and has been very inconsistent and shaky?

French international? Jason Denayer is also a Belgium international, mate.

When was the last time Mangala earned a cap? He couldn't even earn one when France had an injury crisis at CB during, I think, the Euros last time around where he made the squad due to this issue. Deschamps went with some CB whose name I cannot even recall at all, and Mangala didn't play any minutes at all, I believe.

Mangala's not awful, but JFE is considered a steady, reliable, experienced CB by most others who are not our fans -- the opposite of Mangala even if JFE is not all that great.

[PrezIke]

"other clubs have zero incentive to spend any money on him "

What are you on about phips? He's a decent player who just isn't a fit here. He'll represent value for a number of mid level clubs.

Except he's on big wages. That's clearly the problem with us selling, similar to Hart and all of the other players we've expressed anger about Tixki not being able to sell.

Nasri, Jovetic, Dzeko, etc.

[nottsblue]

If Jonny fucking Evans was worth whatever numbers were being floated around at the time then Mangala is worth 30m.

Of course - He's a 26 year old french international - who was doubting he is worth less than 30 year old Jonny Evans???

Why were Arsenal, whose defence is quite a problem, interested in JFE and not Mangala just this past January?

Heard such offers of interest for Mangala?

A player who has had plenty of chances to prove himself with us and has been very inconsistent and shaky?

French international? Jason Denayer is also a Belgium international, mate.

When was the last time Mangala earned a cap? He couldn't even earn one when France had an injury crisis at CB during, I think, the Euros last time around where he made the squad due to this issue. Deschamps went with some CB whose name I cannot even recall at all, and Mangala didn't play any minutes at all, I believe.

Mangala's not awful, but JFE is considered a steady, reliable, experienced CB by most others who are not our fans -- the opposite of Mangala even if JFE is not all that great.

After the Sanchez debacle both last summer and this window, maybe they did enquire and were politely told to fuck off. Could imagine our boys not wanting to deal with that shower

[Original Dub]

Exactly.

And why didn't Everton go for Evans?

[PrezIke]

Exactly.

And why didn't Everton go for Evans?

Mate, because he didn't want to go to a mid-table club who has been fighting to stay in the league.

He's in his prime so surely he wants to go to a club competing at the top of the league.

Arsenal, as much as they have dropped in quality as a club, are still far and away a better choice for a player like him than Everton.

[PrezIke]

If Jonny fucking Evans was worth whatever numbers were being floated around at the time then Mangala is worth 30m.

Of course - He's a 26 year old french international - who was doubting he is worth less than 30 year old Jonny Evans???

Why were Arsenal, whose defence is quite a problem, interested in JFE and not Mangala just this past January?

Heard such offers of interest for Mangala?

A player who has had plenty of chances to prove himself with us and has been very inconsistent and shaky?

French international? Jason Denayer is also a Belgium international, mate.

When was the last time Mangala earned a cap? He couldn't even earn one when France had an injury crisis at CB during, I think, the Euros last time around where he made the squad due to this issue. Deschamps went with some CB whose name I cannot even recall at all, and Mangala didn't play any minutes at all, I believe.

Mangala's not awful, but JFE is considered a steady, reliable, experienced CB by most others who are not our fans -- the opposite of Mangala even if JFE is not all that great.

After the Sanchez debacle both last summer and this window, maybe they did enquire and were politely told to fuck off. Could imagine our boys not wanting to deal with that shower

Maybe Arsenal made an offer that was never leaked to the press that we haven't heard of? That sounds like quite a reach to me.

Every time Mangala is rumoured to go anywhere there are plenty of stories about this because we have been desperate to get rid for two years now.

It is true we were interested in Evans, no? So was it discussed that Arsenal were. These are stories discussed at length in the media for months, at least, but not a single story about Mangala going to any mid-table PL club or Arsenal, who want steady defenders not one's like Mangala.

To be fair, part of the issue is about wages. Mangala is on bigger wages than Evans. I think he's on around 100k a week.

[Saul Goodman]

Exactly.

And why didn't Everton go for Evans?

Because hes priced higher than Mangala and wouldnt come on a loan.
You countered your own argument with that question.

Everton went for the cheaper, more available option aka the worse of the two.

[Original Dub]

Exactly.

And why didn't Everton go for Evans?

Because hes priced higher than Mangala and wouldnt come on a loan.
You countered your own argument with that question.

Everton went for the cheaper, more available option aka the worse of the two.

Can you provide this evidence that Jonny Evans is priced higher than Mangala?

Might be a better idea to have this evidence as part of your post, rather than just exclaim that I have countered my own argument.