League Cup quarter-final draw

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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby budfox » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:10 pm

Bent as you like.

The odds of the big four avoiding each other are around 9/1, so whilst not beyond the realms of possibility, I'd say it's almost certainly fixed.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:17 pm

Why are they showing a pre-recorded draw?
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Justified logic » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:18 pm

As this draw was so opaque, we have to allow the possibility it was fixed. Dawson & Tuffnell have lost integrity.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Justified logic » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:18 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Why are they showing a pre-recorded draw?

"a" being the operative word.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:39 pm

Justified logic wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Why are they showing a pre-recorded draw?

"a" being the operative word.

I honestly have no interest in this cup anymore. It's sold to the highest bidder who then get to choose who they want going forward. You can imagine them, doing test draws and then using the one that they wanted to show to the world. Absolute farce and goes a long way to showing people how a draw can be fixed to suit a sponsors agenda.

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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby gillie » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:41 pm

What a fuckin bent shambles that draw was almost all blues on twitter called the rags opponents before the draw was made and Carabao did not disappoint.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:41 pm

Justified logic wrote:As this draw was so opaque, we have to allow the possibility it was fixed. Dawson & Tuffnell have lost integrity.

Or they could just have been pawns in it all.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby patrickblue » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:51 pm

gillie wrote:What a fuckin bent shambles that draw was almost all blues on twitter called the rags opponents before the draw was made and Carabao did not disappoint.


I should imagine the entire country knew the rags would get the only non prem side in the draw.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:52 pm

patrickblue wrote:
gillie wrote:What a fuckin bent shambles that draw was almost all blues on twitter called the rags opponents before the draw was made and Carabao did not disappoint.


I should imagine the entire country knew the rags would get the only non prem side in the draw.

I'm just amazed they're not at home!
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:55 pm

nottsblue wrote:Has no one at the Carabao HQ got the gumption to simply write the names of the eight remaining teams on a folded post it note and put them into an envelope to be drawn out?

What a fuck up.

By the way, what do Carabao actually do?


Would that be a brown envelope NB ??
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Swales4ever » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:59 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Justified logic wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Why are they showing a pre-recorded draw?

"a" being the operative word.

I honestly have no interest in this cup anymore. It's sold to the highest bidder who then get to choose who they want going forward. You can imagine them, doing test draws and then using the one that they wanted to show to the world. Absolute farce and goes a long way to showing people how a draw can be fixed to suit a sponsors agenda.

Some people thought that football had sold its soul, now everybody knows it. And it was for a pittance.

Agreed, mate.

but then why don't consider a step further and spare the whole of that little meaning, additional fatigue, at least for the sake of the players of England NT interest?

I've been convinced for ages that the only possible reason why the inventors of the game, having the best league in the world, are so incredibly underachieving at international level is by large due to that fatigue, additional to the already most demanding season among the leading fooballing countries.

I understand the sentiments of English fans: love the game and you just can't get enough, but this has got pointless since a while.
then, as you mention in the other thread, You can always go and enjoy more pure forms of football.

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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Mase » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:14 pm

Sad bastards.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Sideshow Bob » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:37 pm

despicable. if i were a "smaller" club, i'd refuse to participate in the stupid competition at all. ratings and money above all else as per.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:43 pm

Has anyone buttonholed Tuffers or Dawson and asked them to verify how many takes it took to get this outcome?
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:50 pm

Swales4ever wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Justified logic wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Why are they showing a pre-recorded draw?

"a" being the operative word.

I honestly have no interest in this cup anymore. It's sold to the highest bidder who then get to choose who they want going forward. You can imagine them, doing test draws and then using the one that they wanted to show to the world. Absolute farce and goes a long way to showing people how a draw can be fixed to suit a sponsors agenda.

Some people thought that football had sold its soul, now everybody knows it. And it was for a pittance.

Agreed, mate.

but then why don't consider a step further and spare the whole of that little meaning, additional fatigue, at least for the sake of the players of England NT interest?

I've been convinced for ages that the only possible reason why the inventors of the game, having the best league in the world, are so incredibly underachieving at international level is by large due to that fatigue, additional to the already most demanding season among the leading fooballing countries.

I understand the sentiments of English fans: love the game and you just can't get enough, but this has got pointless since a while.
then, as you mention in the other thread, You can always go and enjoy more pure forms of football.

It's not really about the NT, as you put it, but it's definitely about the fatigue. In order to beat a PL, never mind one of Leicester's status, you have to use the majority of your best players as they run you ragged, so have to control the game. Whereas, playing a team like Bristol allows you to play a second string, somewhat, saving your 1st teams legs for bigger games. Add to that the 2 legged semi in January, why would a club who is fighting for the top spots put out a team that could diminish their whole of season form?

For me, this is the time to say that we will give up the cup in favour of bigger fish. It's not a big deal as we've done it for the last few years in the cup games, when we seem to get big games or unrealistic fixture dates that could hinder us elsewhere.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:57 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:It's not really about the NT, as you put it, but it's definitely about the fatigue. In order to beat a PL, never mind one of Leicester's status, you have to use the majority of your best players as they run you ragged, so have to control the game. Whereas, playing a team like Bristol allows you to play a second string, somewhat, saving your 1st teams legs for bigger games. Add to that the 2 legged semi in January, why would a club who is fighting for the top spots put out a team that could diminish their whole of season form?

For me, this is the time to say that we will give up the cup in favour of bigger fish. It's not a big deal as we've done it for the last few years in the cup games, when we seem to get big games or unrealistic fixture dates that could hinder us elsewhere.

Two legged semi Beefy? I thought it was a single game at Wembley.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Justified logic » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:58 pm

johnny crossan wrote:Has anyone buttonholed Tuffers or Dawson and asked them to verify how many takes it took to get this outcome?

I tried with Dawson, along with some others, but no response as yet. Mind you, Twitter is like a #f0r£Ign linga franca to me.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Justified logic » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:01 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:It's not really about the NT, as you put it, but it's definitely about the fatigue. In order to beat a PL, never mind one of Leicester's status, you have to use the majority of your best players as they run you ragged, so have to control the game. Whereas, playing a team like Bristol allows you to play a second string, somewhat, saving your 1st teams legs for bigger games. Add to that the 2 legged semi in January, why would a club who is fighting for the top spots put out a team that could diminish their whole of season form?

For me, this is the time to say that we will give up the cup in favour of bigger fish. It's not a big deal as we've done it for the last few years in the cup games, when we seem to get big games or unrealistic fixture dates that could hinder us elsewhere.

Two legged semi Beefy? I thought it was a single game at Wembley.

Have they changed it this year?

I was looking forward to a game in London against Chelsea or Arsenal before the final in London against the rags.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:07 pm

Justified logic wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:It's not really about the NT, as you put it, but it's definitely about the fatigue. In order to beat a PL, never mind one of Leicester's status, you have to use the majority of your best players as they run you ragged, so have to control the game. Whereas, playing a team like Bristol allows you to play a second string, somewhat, saving your 1st teams legs for bigger games. Add to that the 2 legged semi in January, why would a club who is fighting for the top spots put out a team that could diminish their whole of season form?

For me, this is the time to say that we will give up the cup in favour of bigger fish. It's not a big deal as we've done it for the last few years in the cup games, when we seem to get big games or unrealistic fixture dates that could hinder us elsewhere.

Two legged semi Beefy? I thought it was a single game at Wembley.

Have they changed it this year?

I was looking forward to a game in London against Chelsea or Arsenal before the final in London against the rags.

Beefy is right JL, I've confused it with the FA cup, sorry for the swerve ball.
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Re: League Cup quarter-final draw

Postby Justified logic » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:17 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Justified logic wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:It's not really about the NT, as you put it, but it's definitely about the fatigue. In order to beat a PL, never mind one of Leicester's status, you have to use the majority of your best players as they run you ragged, so have to control the game. Whereas, playing a team like Bristol allows you to play a second string, somewhat, saving your 1st teams legs for bigger games. Add to that the 2 legged semi in January, why would a club who is fighting for the top spots put out a team that could diminish their whole of season form?

For me, this is the time to say that we will give up the cup in favour of bigger fish. It's not a big deal as we've done it for the last few years in the cup games, when we seem to get big games or unrealistic fixture dates that could hinder us elsewhere.

Two legged semi Beefy? I thought it was a single game at Wembley.

Have they changed it this year?

I was looking forward to a game in London against Chelsea or Arsenal before the final in London against the rags.

Beefy is right JL, I've confused it with the FA cup, sorry for the swerve ball.

Still looking forward to another trip to Wembley having missed the Liverpool final because I didn't switch my mobile on and consequently ddn't get notification of an available ticket. #TechDinosaur :lol:
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