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Re: Trivia question

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:42 am

Swales4ever wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:....
cant resist City trivia. :twisted:

who's the shortest player ever to play for City then?


Probably Buzzer.
He quite often turned up legless after pissing it up with Bestie.

:lol: :lol: :lol: rightly so, I'd say.
Bestie was not only the best Munchenhauser ever (imho), but also the only decent human being of that lot (as far as I am aware).


Oh dear.

Glyn Pardoe springs to mind.
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Tokyo Blue » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:39 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Oh dear.

Glyn Pardoe springs to mind.

Yes, I thought so too.

And wasting some other poor bugger's liver.

Altogether now...

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Re: Trivia question

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:30 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:....
cant resist City trivia. :twisted:

who's the shortest player ever to play for City then?


Probably Buzzer.
He quite often turned up legless after pissing it up with Bestie.

:lol: :lol: :lol: rightly so, I'd say.
Bestie was not only the best Munchenhauser ever (imho), but also the only decent human being of that lot (as far as I am aware).


Oh dear.

Glyn Pardoe springs to mind.

Oh my...
to think by few months that could have been my first City game... would have avoided quite an embarassment! :oops:
obviously I didnt recall that, but was it a Roy_Keane-sque kinda tackle... or just another very strong challenge, so popular in the English heated games, moreso then than now? honestlly asking...

still, through my evidently exposed ignorance I do consider Georgie best a special character and one of the greatest players eva :o

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


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Re: Trivia question

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:40 pm

It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:49 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.

Thanks Doc.
I then stand tutored and forced to revise my sentimental recollection of the sparkling loon.
jutst another rag, then. :oops:

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
there must be some truth, then!
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Re: Trivia question

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:50 pm

Swales4ever wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.

Thanks Doc.
I then stand tutored and forced to revise my sentimental recollection of the sparkling loon.
jutst another rag, then. :oops:

so the shortest ever City player is?
:?
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:51 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.

Thanks Doc.
I then stand tutored and forced to revise my sentimental recollection of the sparkling loon.
jutst another rag, then. :oops:

so the shortest ever City player is?
:?

I have already surrendered. since I dont want to cheat, much imperfect memory and education just can't help :(

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
there must be some truth, then!
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Re: Trivia question

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:55 pm

Swales4ever wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.

Thanks Doc.
I then stand tutored and forced to revise my sentimental recollection of the sparkling loon.
jutst another rag, then. :oops:

so the shortest ever City player is?
:?

I have already surrendered. since I dont want to cheat, much imperfect memory and education just can't help :(

I'm not sure you surrendering is helping for your country's reputation S4e ;)
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:59 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.

Thanks Doc.
I then stand tutored and forced to revise my sentimental recollection of the sparkling loon.
jutst another rag, then. :oops:

so the shortest ever City player is?
:?

I have already surrendered. since I dont want to cheat, much imperfect memory and education just can't help :(

I'm not sure you surrendering is helping for your country's reputation S4e ;)

why/how is that JC?
only Swiss have, possibly, a steadier reputation on keeping secrets, than us on surrendering... should track too much back in the history book to change the very fact. ;)
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1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
there must be some truth, then!
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Re: Trivia question

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:08 pm

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those Swiss were a doughty bunch I was told
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:10 pm

johnny crossan wrote:Image
those Swiss were a doughty bunch I was told

few of us were as well... but in the greater scheme of things...

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:19 pm

johnny crossan wrote:Image
those Swiss were a doughty bunch I was told


Tell us more Landburger. ;)
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:25 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:Image
those Swiss were a doughty bunch I was told


Tell us more Landburger. ;)

stands little comparison with Charles Laughton's Sir Wilfrid Robarts, and in general, imho

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
there must be some truth, then!
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Re: Trivia question

Postby patrickblue » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:48 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.


MC, you must by now be aware of my (often irrational) hatred and disgust at anything rag.
That said, I think you're over the top with this one, in fact I'm not sure you're talking about the same incident. I remember, (and before I posted this, checked) that the tackle was nowhere near the touchline, but just outside our box in the middle of the pitch.
I thought at the time, and having watched it again, that it was a late challenge that went horrifically wrong. Best was doing a lot of those sort of challenges in that period as his skill and ball control were being seriously diminished by the self abuse he was inflicting on himself with the booze.
TBH, looking at the tackle, it doesn't appear that dreadful, especially in the context of the time.
I really don't believe it was malicious, just clumsy and ill advised, with horrific consequences.
And I don't think it can be compared with the Buchan tackle on Colin Bell, which was indeed pre-meditated thuggery.
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:14 pm

patrickblue wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.


MC, you must by now be aware of my (often irrational) hatred and disgust at anything rag.
That said, I think you're over the top with this one, in fact I'm not sure you're talking about the same incident. I remember, (and before I posted this, checked) that the tackle was nowhere near the touchline, but just outside our box in the middle of the pitch.
I thought at the time, and having watched it again, that it was a late challenge that went horrifically wrong. Best was doing a lot of those sort of challenges in that period as his skill and ball control were being seriously diminished by the self abuse he was inflicting on himself with the booze.
TBH, looking at the tackle, it doesn't appear that dreadful, especially in the context of the time.
I really don't believe it was malicious, just clumsy and ill advised, with horrific consequences.
And I don't think it can be compared with the Buchan tackle on Colin Bell, which was indeed pre-meditated thuggery.


I was at the game PB with two 'friends' who were Scum fans.

We were at the front of the stand, low down and almost level with the pitch and, from memory, I thought it was close to the touchline; wrongly as you pointed out.

I've just been watching it again on Youtube and, from a greater camera hight, the incident didn't look as bad, as it seemed from the lower angle we were watching from.

I still maintain it was atrocious and, all credit to them, so did my two friends.

I will admit though, that memories of incidents which took place nearly 47 years ago, can adopt a mind of their own, especially in the context of a white hot derby.
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:38 pm

I stand quiet in my pupil corner, where I belong, but just need to release a strong appreciation to the magnificence of the phrasing "(often irrational) hatred and disgust at anything rag" :twisted:

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


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Re: Trivia question

Postby patrickblue » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:46 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.


MC, you must by now be aware of my (often irrational) hatred and disgust at anything rag.
That said, I think you're over the top with this one, in fact I'm not sure you're talking about the same incident. I remember, (and before I posted this, checked) that the tackle was nowhere near the touchline, but just outside our box in the middle of the pitch.
I thought at the time, and having watched it again, that it was a late challenge that went horrifically wrong. Best was doing a lot of those sort of challenges in that period as his skill and ball control were being seriously diminished by the self abuse he was inflicting on himself with the booze.
TBH, looking at the tackle, it doesn't appear that dreadful, especially in the context of the time.
I really don't believe it was malicious, just clumsy and ill advised, with horrific consequences.
And I don't think it can be compared with the Buchan tackle on Colin Bell, which was indeed pre-meditated thuggery.


I was at the game PB with two 'friends' who were Scum fans.

We were at the front of the stand, low down and almost level with the pitch and, from memory, I thought it was close to the touchline; wrongly as you pointed out.

I've just been watching it again on Youtube and, from a greater camera hight, the incident didn't look as bad, as it seemed from the lower angle we were watching from.

I still maintain it was atrocious and, all credit to them, so did my two friends.

I will admit though, that memories of incidents which took place nearly 47 years ago, can adopt a mind of their own, especially in the context of a white hot derby.


I agree it was certainly a dubious and reckless challenge. Best had lost control of the ball, probably through being drunk in charge of a football and was determined to get it back. And I wasn't there, so I've only ever seen it on film from one angle.

I just don't think he had any intention of hurting Pardoe, and in all honesty 99 times out of 100 he wouldn't have, it was just horrifically unlucky, especially for Glyn. If he hadn't have been injured, play would probably have continued, and the incident forgotten, as used to be the norm in those days.

Whereas the Buchan tackle was as you say pre-meditated thuggery, with the intention of injuring CB. He should have been charged with GBH and banned for life.

As you say though, these type of incidents can can adopt a mind of their own over the years,
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Re: Trivia question

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:26 pm

patrickblue wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:It was out and out, pre-meditated thuggery, taking place near the touchline, only a few yards away from where I was standing.

Best launched himself with both feet and Pardoe had to be rushed to hospital, coming within a few minutes of losing his leg.

Totally disgusting and on a par with Buchan and Colin the King.


MC, you must by now be aware of my (often irrational) hatred and disgust at anything rag.
That said, I think you're over the top with this one, in fact I'm not sure you're talking about the same incident. I remember, (and before I posted this, checked) that the tackle was nowhere near the touchline, but just outside our box in the middle of the pitch.
I thought at the time, and having watched it again, that it was a late challenge that went horrifically wrong. Best was doing a lot of those sort of challenges in that period as his skill and ball control were being seriously diminished by the self abuse he was inflicting on himself with the booze.
TBH, looking at the tackle, it doesn't appear that dreadful, especially in the context of the time.
I really don't believe it was malicious, just clumsy and ill advised, with horrific consequences.
And I don't think it can be compared with the Buchan tackle on Colin Bell, which was indeed pre-meditated thuggery.


I was at the game PB with two 'friends' who were Scum fans.

We were at the front of the stand, low down and almost level with the pitch and, from memory, I thought it was close to the touchline; wrongly as you pointed out.

I've just been watching it again on Youtube and, from a greater camera hight, the incident didn't look as bad, as it seemed from the lower angle we were watching from.

I still maintain it was atrocious and, all credit to them, so did my two friends.

I will admit though, that memories of incidents which took place nearly 47 years ago, can adopt a mind of their own, especially in the context of a white hot derby.


I agree it was certainly a dubious and reckless challenge. Best had lost control of the ball, probably through being drunk in charge of a football and was determined to get it back. And I wasn't there, so I've only ever seen it on film from one angle.

I just don't think he had any intention of hurting Pardoe, and in all honesty 99 times out of 100 he wouldn't have, it was just horrifically unlucky, especially for Glyn. If he hadn't have been injured, play would probably have continued, and the incident forgotten, as used to be the norm in those days.

Whereas the Buchan tackle was as you say pre-meditated thuggery, with the intention of injuring CB. He should have been charged with GBH and banned for life.

As you say though, these type of incidents can can adopt a mind of their own over the years,


Thanks for correcting my wandering conceptions.

All through these years, I've had the incident as being closer than it was.
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Re: Trivia question

Postby nottsblue » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:57 pm

https://youtu.be/qOEDiBNPu00

Malcolm Allison showing more class in ten minutes than Wenger and/or Mourinho would do in a career.
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Postby Swales4ever » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:06 pm

nottsblue wrote:https://youtu.be/qOEDiBNPu00

Malcolm Allison showing more class in ten minutes than Wenger and/or Mourinho would do in a career.

an entirelly different breed of men, that was: none would stand comparison today.
the fact that football was yet to become a multi-billions industry helped, as well. methink.

cheers for posting NB, much, much appreciated.

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

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