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Re: David Luiz

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:28 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Not a Pep player imo, selfish ill disciplined tosser. Can't see what role he would fill anyway.


In all fairness Mr H, last season when Conte switched to a back three, it seemed to suit him.

Do you not think Pep could bring out the best in him - I'm thinking Kolarov here ??

In essence, you're probably right, but who knows ??


Of course pep could bring the best out of him but would that really be good enough. He was ok with 2 very good holding midfielders in front of him.

He did get something out of Kolarov but he wasnt good enough either and cocked up plenty to prove it.I think Luiz would do the same.Anyway he would be a benchwarmer at best


Indeed, it's something that I always consider when I hear talk of our 'dodgy defence'. If you took our back 4 and put them in a defensive system how dodgy would they look? And the same vice versa, if you took a back four from a PL team with a defensive setup how competent would they look trying to play Pep's system?
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:55 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Not a Pep player imo, selfish ill disciplined tosser. Can't see what role he would fill anyway.


In all fairness Mr H, last season when Conte switched to a back three, it seemed to suit him.

Do you not think Pep could bring out the best in him - I'm thinking Kolarov here ??

In essence, you're probably right, but who knows ??


Of course pep could bring the best out of him but would that really be good enough. He was ok with 2 very good holding midfielders in front of him.

He did get something out of Kolarov but he wasnt good enough either and cocked up plenty to prove it.I think Luiz would do the same.Anyway he would be a benchwarmer at best


Indeed, it's something that I always consider when I hear talk of our 'dodgy defence'. If you took our back 4 and put them in a defensive system how dodgy would they look? And the same vice versa, if you took a back four from a PL team with a defensive setup how competent would they look trying to play Pep's system?


That's a more than fair point in itself FIBD, but it also highlights the difficulty in getting defenders in, who are suitable and comfortable in 'our system' (crikey, that sounds like Aaron Nimzovitch).

I think that's the underlying 'motif' in this thread.

Anyway, I looked it up and he was 30 last April so, for me, all other considerations now go out of the window.

We'd be spending good money on someone nearing his sell-by date.

Pity really because I thought this was an interesting thread.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby iwasthere2012 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:10 pm

Apart from the fact he’s a sly odious knobhead.
I don’t think he’s a good defender. He’s a decent footballer but far too slow.
He’s found out anytime anyone runs directly at the centre of Chelsea’s defence.
Same goes for Cahill.
I reckon he’s coming to the end of his top league usefulness.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Swales4ever » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:40 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:That's a more than fair point in itself FIBD, but it also highlights the difficulty in getting defenders in, who are suitable and comfortable in 'our system' (crikey, that sounds like Aaron Nimzovitch).

I think that's the underlying 'motif' in this thread.

Anyway, I looked it up and he was 30 last April so, for me, all other considerations now go out of the window.

We'd be spending good money on someone nearing his sell-by date.

Pity really because I thought this was an interesting thread.

only I know of mr. Nimzovitch is that he's a chess genius, hence a genius overall.

but on topic, not aiming to diminishing, entirely, the merit of a sound point, I'd be confident that our own JC, in DoF disguise and granted the standard checkbook clearance, including some swop authority would quite confortably deliver one of the following, pretty fitting with the Nimzovitch-esque wording:
Jose Gimenez
Lucas Hernández
Leander Dendoncker
Andreas Christensen (not the easiest catch, but I'd give a shout there )
Aymeric Laporte (before considering SpongeBob 10 times better putting some pride to bed. shall return with interests in the battle)
Van Beek

[yes I know, sounds a pretty cheap lick at JC, but having spread lies on the tendency of his football nose, I now fear the worst 8-) ]

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


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Re: David Luiz

Postby nottsblue » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:10 pm

As big as a fat no that you could get from me.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby PaulieIrish » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:15 pm

Doesn't Aguero hate him too? Big no from me
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:29 pm

Does anyone know where this apparent animosity between Aguero and Luiz stems from.

Is it an Argentina - Brazil based hostility, or are there other factors and is it a recent development, or something more longstanding ??
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Mase » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:31 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Does anyone know where this apparent animosity between Aguero and Luiz stems from.

Is it an Argentina - Brazil based hostility, or are there other factors and is it a recent development, or something more longstanding ??


Probably cause sideshow bob boots him up and down every time we play them.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby PeterParker » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:34 pm

No.

He is a cunt.

And mediocre.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby freshie » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:54 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Does anyone know where this apparent animosity between Aguero and Luiz stems from.

Is it an Argentina - Brazil based hostility, or are there other factors and is it a recent development, or something more longstanding ??


http://www.goal.com/en/news/the-other-s ... p7jr0kksvu

Aguero actually gets on well with the Brazilian off the pitch; they laughed and joked on the phone following the Argentine's two-footed stamp in 2013, and they have been known to exchange the odd message since.
But Luiz gets under Aguero’s skin more than anybody. The Chelsea centre-back taunts opposition forwards during matches, and when the two faced off at the Etihad Stadium last December he spent the game mocking City’s “pretty passing” but failure to capitalise on it. After 90 minutes of it Aguero had had enough, and launched an ugly two-footed lunge which left the Brazilian with a niggling knee injury for several months.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Moonchesteri » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:17 pm

Swales4ever wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:That's a more than fair point in itself FIBD, but it also highlights the difficulty in getting defenders in, who are suitable and comfortable in 'our system' (crikey, that sounds like Aaron Nimzovitch).

I think that's the underlying 'motif' in this thread.

Anyway, I looked it up and he was 30 last April so, for me, all other considerations now go out of the window.

We'd be spending good money on someone nearing his sell-by date.

Pity really because I thought this was an interesting thread.

only I know of mr. Nimzovitch is that he's a chess genius, hence a genius overall.

but on topic, not aiming to diminishing, entirely, the merit of a sound point, I'd be confident that our own JC, in DoF disguise and granted the standard checkbook clearance, including some swop authority would quite confortably deliver one of the following, pretty fitting with the Nimzovitch-esque wording:
Jose Gimenez
Lucas Hernández
Leander Dendoncker
Andreas Christensen (not the easiest catch, but I'd give a shout there )
Aymeric Laporte (before considering SpongeBob 10 times better putting some pride to bed. shall return with interests in the battle)
Van Beek

[yes I know, sounds a pretty cheap lick at JC, but having spread lies on the tendency of his football nose, I now fear the worst 8-) ]


I have no idea who this feller is but he has a cool name and I’d welcome him in as Otters replacement!
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Swales4ever » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:26 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:
Swales4ever wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:That's a more than fair point in itself FIBD, but it also highlights the difficulty in getting defenders in, who are suitable and comfortable in 'our system' (crikey, that sounds like Aaron Nimzovitch).

I think that's the underlying 'motif' in this thread.

Anyway, I looked it up and he was 30 last April so, for me, all other considerations now go out of the window.

We'd be spending good money on someone nearing his sell-by date.

Pity really because I thought this was an interesting thread.

only I know of mr. Nimzovitch is that he's a chess genius, hence a genius overall.

but on topic, not aiming to diminishing, entirely, the merit of a sound point, I'd be confident that our own JC, in DoF disguise and granted the standard checkbook clearance, including some swop authority would quite confortably deliver one of the following, pretty fitting with the Nimzovitch-esque wording:
Jose Gimenez
Lucas Hernández
Leander Dendoncker
Andreas Christensen (not the easiest catch, but I'd give a shout there )
Aymeric Laporte (before considering SpongeBob 10 times better putting some pride to bed. shall return with interests in the battle)
Van Beek

[yes I know, sounds a pretty cheap lick at JC, but having spread lies on the tendency of his football nose, I now fear the worst 8-) ]


I have no idea who this feller is but he has a cool name and I’d welcome him in as Otters replacement!

Thanks for Your respected attention to one of my illitterate's drivels, Moonchie.
just to serve Your interest, and in general, I suggest You to pay more attention to JC valuable scoutings of the market.
here's a bit:

viewtopic.php?f=119&t=53088&p=871107&hilit=Leander+Dendoncker#p871107

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


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Re: David Luiz

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Re: David Luiz

Postby phips » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:51 am

PeterParker wrote:No.

He is a cunt.

And mediocre.

and thats putting it mildly.
I'm not really a City fan. I'm just here for attention.

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Re: David Luiz

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:56 am

RodneyRodney wrote:Reece Oxford

Yes, that thought had crossed my mind as well.
Your right leg I like; I've got nothing against your right leg. The trouble is neither have you.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby PrezIke » Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:09 am

Hellz no...
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Re: David Luiz

Postby PrezIke » Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:11 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Not a Pep player imo, selfish ill disciplined tosser. Can't see what role he would fill anyway.


In all fairness Mr H, last season when Conte switched to a back three, it seemed to suit him.

Do you not think Pep could bring out the best in him - I'm thinking Kolarov here ??

In essence, you're probably right, but who knows ??


He needed to not have to worry about defending because of Kante, yet when Kante was just out injured Side Show Bob left Chelsea very exposed.
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:57 am

freshie wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Does anyone know where this apparent animosity between Aguero and Luiz stems from.

Is it an Argentina - Brazil based hostility, or are there other factors and is it a recent development, or something more longstanding ??


http://www.goal.com/en/news/the-other-s ... p7jr0kksvu

Aguero actually gets on well with the Brazilian off the pitch; they laughed and joked on the phone following the Argentine's two-footed stamp in 2013, and they have been known to exchange the odd message since.
But Luiz gets under Aguero’s skin more than anybody. The Chelsea centre-back taunts opposition forwards during matches, and when the two faced off at the Etihad Stadium last December he spent the game mocking City’s “pretty passing” but failure to capitalise on it. After 90 minutes of it Aguero had had enough, and launched an ugly two-footed lunge which left the Brazilian with a niggling knee injury for several months.


And there I was thinking it was the constant kicks, pulls and fucking body checks that made Aguero snap.

It still makes me angry that the cunt got away with this one and that Balotelli got a yellow for diving

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Re: David Luiz

Postby Chinners » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:43 pm

I'd rather have Johnny Evans than David Luiz ....
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Re: David Luiz

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:51 pm

Chinners wrote:I'd rather have Johnny Fucking Evans than David Luiz ....


At least have the courtesy of giving the man his full title.
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