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Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:16 pm
by johnny crossan
aaron bond wrote:
patrickblue wrote:Give him a break, he's hardly played.
He'll come good.

Exactly.
It’s incredible so many people can make an informed decision on his ability based on this season.
He’s hardly played and when he does play it’s usually coming on as a sub.
He was superb for Monaco and that’s what we can judge him on so far. We are playing phenomenal football at the moment and no one deserves to be dropped so he’ll find his chances limited for now.
Only once he’s had a run of games starting will we be able to make a full judgement.

Hold hard there chaps. We're entitled to our opinions based on what we've seen so far - however premature you consider them or how wrong they may turn out to be over a longer period.

Most of those on here who are currently unconvinced about Bernardo are quite prepared to revise their judgement in the light of more positive evidence but there does need to be a lot more of it.

We know he's not played that much and we know he was in impressive form with Monaco but the fact remains that those abilities have not been shown for us yet.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:52 pm
by freshie
johnny crossan wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
patrickblue wrote:Give him a break, he's hardly played.
He'll come good.

Exactly.
It’s incredible so many people can make an informed decision on his ability based on this season.
He’s hardly played and when he does play it’s usually coming on as a sub.
He was superb for Monaco and that’s what we can judge him on so far. We are playing phenomenal football at the moment and no one deserves to be dropped so he’ll find his chances limited for now.
Only once he’s had a run of games starting will we be able to make a full judgement.

Hold hard there chaps. We're entitled to our opinions based on what we've seen so far - however premature you consider them or how wrong they may turn out to be over a longer period.

Most of those on here who are currently unconvinced about Bernardo are quite prepared to revise their judgement in the light of more positive evidence but there does need to be a lot more of it.

We know he's not played that much and we know he was in impressive form with Monaco but the fact remains that those abilities have not been shown for us yet.


He's hardly had a chance to showcase his skills apart from a handful of starts and a few cameo appearances off the bench. Are you playing devil's advocate JC? It would not surprise me ;)

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:00 pm
by johnny crossan
freshie wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
patrickblue wrote:Give him a break, he's hardly played.
He'll come good.

Exactly.
It’s incredible so many people can make an informed decision on his ability based on this season.
He’s hardly played and when he does play it’s usually coming on as a sub.
He was superb for Monaco and that’s what we can judge him on so far. We are playing phenomenal football at the moment and no one deserves to be dropped so he’ll find his chances limited for now.
Only once he’s had a run of games starting will we be able to make a full judgement.

Hold hard there chaps. We're entitled to our opinions based on what we've seen so far - however premature you consider them or how wrong they may turn out to be over a longer period.

Most of those on here who are currently unconvinced about Bernardo are quite prepared to revise their judgement in the light of more positive evidence but there does need to be a lot more of it.

We know he's not played that much and we know he was in impressive form with Monaco but the fact remains that those abilities have not been shown for us yet.


He's hardly had a chance to showcase his skills apart from a handful of starts and a few cameo appearances off the bench. Are you playing devil's advocate JC? It would not surprise me ;)

I'm genuinely undecided but did you notice Pep's post match comments about his 90 minutes against Feyenoord. Really quite defensive and by saying 'he had a very good game' when it was clear to all he didn't shows the tension between expectation and the current reality. Also, referring to his effective role in successful game management in the last 10 minutes away at Napoli, said more about his shortcomings on Tuesday night.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:00 pm
by Patrick
If John Macken had played under Pep, he would have won the golden boot in his second season.... fact

It will take Bernie the same time to become the next Silva

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:47 pm
by hartfordsheartbeat
There's a reason we haven't seen much of him so far. He's not as good as whats starting in front of him.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:54 pm
by Swales4ever
this thread has entirelly the potential to make the KK's original "Top of the Classics" fades.

Bernie is a playmaker, who accasionally can be lined on the flank, despite lacking the bursting pace of a top winger.
For one reason or another, which I am not to argue, the Boss seems to like the idea of having the action on the flanks as preliminary background to any apprentice playmaker... might be wrong here, just saying.

He shall come very good and, given time, shall learn how to fill the hole that BIg Dave is gonna leave in a couple of seasons. remember first impressions on Leroy, anyone?

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:51 am
by Plain Speaking
I hope he can make it with us. He was magnificent for Monaco at the Etihad. It must be frustrating for him to get so little game time but Pep sees all the players in training and we must trust him. Yaya said Pep was angry after the Feyenord game for the "lazy" performance, I assume he meant the team in general?

You would imagine there would be much more rotation with all the games coming up, fingers crossed he can find his mojo then.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:18 am
by Justified logic
Plain Speaking wrote:I hope he can make it with us. He was magnificent for Monaco at the Etihad. It must be frustrating for him to get so little game time but Pep sees all the players in training and we must trust him. Yaya said Pep was angry after the Feyenord game for the "lazy" performance, I assume he meant the team in general?

You would imagine there would be much more rotation with all the games coming up, fingers crossed he can find his mojo then.

The thing is they all have to be at it. If one player is lazy, slow, sloppy, lackadaisical or however you want to describe it, then the whole team becomes "lazy". Everyone needs to be sharp on the pitch or be out of the team for someone who is.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:56 pm
by johnny crossan


good lad - tweets well :D

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:09 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Much better tonight. Lovely ball for the opener.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:30 pm
by City64
Just needs games , very good tonight . Must be difficult trying to break into a team this good , no doubting his talent though .

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:14 pm
by budfox
Top player, glad to have him.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:51 am
by phips
today was the best he's played.

i feel like he's going to get swallowed up here through no fault of his own. its hard for any midfielder to shine when you've got KDB and Silva in the side. there's only one ball.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:29 am
by Pretty Boy Lee
Thought he played well today. My only thought otherwise was that he kept cutting back on this left to cross and yet we’ve moved sterling to the left where he’s usually less effective? Maybe a bit more flank swapping would help them both?

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:48 am
by Mase
phips wrote:today was the best he's played.

i feel like he's going to get swallowed up here through no fault of his own. its hard for any midfielder to shine when you've got KDB and Silva in the side. there's only one ball.


Sterling And Sanè seem to be doing fine.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:23 am
by nottsblue
Mase wrote:
phips wrote:today was the best he's played.

i feel like he's going to get swallowed up here through no fault of his own. its hard for any midfielder to shine when you've got KDB and Silva in the side. there's only one ball.


Sterling And Sanè seem to be doing fine.

To be fair, neither Sane nor Sterling hit the ground running. They are integral to the side now but it can take a player time to find his feet in a new club/team and surroundings. B Silva is still very young and is getting used to the pace of both the PL and our team and style. There haven't been many games this season where the opposition have had much of the ball and chances. We are playing a style of football not seen before so it's understandable for a newcomer to shine straight away.

He will come good, I for one am convinced of that

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:32 am
by mr_nool
He looked very good last night, although he sometimes seems to rush the last pass or shot. Perhaps he's too eager to impress.
You could see the same thing with Zinchenko last night. The lad was aching to get involved, but most of the game just passed him by. When he finally got the ball, it really seemed like he tried hard to restrict himself and play it simple instead to try to impress with an action. One time he couldn't contain himself and ripped a shot off that landed in row z.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:58 am
by Tokyo Blue
He's not "very young". He's 23 and has got 22 caps for his country, so let's not treat him like a kid learning his craft because he clearly isn't.

He started to look the part last night v Swansea. There is more to come I think. I certainly hope so. But if he doesn't show more than he has so far this season, he might not be anywhere near the team for the foreseeable future, as the likes of Phil Foden and Brahim Diaz are well-placed to take their chance when it comes.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:44 am
by Slim
I think he has the talent to be a top player in this league. I think a lot of people are going to want to edit their posts soon.

Re: What does Bernardo do?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:11 pm
by gmercer1
Slim wrote:I think he has the talent to be a top player in this league. I think a lot of people are going to want to edit their posts soon.

I agree..............the poor lad hasn't had a run in the team yet. He has something special and will prove it in years to come