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Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:00 pm
by Dunne's Half-Time Pint
Original Dub wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Yaya scored goals in 3 cup finals and when it came to the wire for the title, he stepped up with decisive goals and amazing all round play.

Better in his prime for sure


Not expressing a view, but how many cup finals did Gerrard score in?


4 cup finals including the champions league. In fact, he's the only player to score in fa, league, UEFA cup final and champs league final.

Not bad at all.


Right so. I think that makes your first line quite funny.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:05 pm
by bigblue
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Yaya scored goals in 3 cup finals and when it came to the wire for the title, he stepped up with decisive goals and amazing all round play.

Better in his prime for sure


Not expressing a view, but how many cup finals did Gerrard score in?


4 cup finals including the champions league. In fact, he's the only player to score in fa, league, UEFA cup final and champs league final.

Not bad at all.


Right so. I think that makes your first line quite funny.


Well that number would have to be converted into goals per game or per year for it to make sense. Otherwise you are giving gerrard 2-3x the amount of time to get 1 more goal in a final.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:09 pm
by Nigels Tackle
yaya has more natural talent
gerrard was the better professional

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:15 pm
by Mase
Gerrard’s agent or Yaya’s agent?

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:22 pm
by Nigels Tackle
Mase wrote:Gerrard’s agent or Yaya’s agent?


what about watching yaya with gerrard's wife?

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:28 pm
by iwasthere2012
Yaya has a better song.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:30 pm
by Original Dub
bigblue wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Yaya scored goals in 3 cup finals and when it came to the wire for the title, he stepped up with decisive goals and amazing all round play.

Better in his prime for sure


Not expressing a view, but how many cup finals did Gerrard score in?


4 cup finals including the champions league. In fact, he's the only player to score in fa, league, UEFA cup final and champs league final.

Not bad at all.


Right so. I think that makes your first line quite funny.


Well that number would have to be converted into goals per game or per year for it to make sense. Otherwise you are giving gerrard 2-3x the amount of time to get 1 more goal in a final.


Exactly.

Instrumental in two titles and 3 cups in 5 years i think?

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:49 pm
by sandman
Mase wrote:I’d personally rather have Gerrard in his prime.


Me too

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:53 pm
by iwasthere2012
Yaya is easier to understand too.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:34 pm
by Beefymcfc
Slippy Me led them to mediocrity, Yaya and co led us to the heights that not many can fathom. Looking at their careers, then Yaya is just ahead but looking at what they accomplished individually?

Only one winner here.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:54 pm
by zabbadabbado
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Mase wrote:Gerrard’s agent or Yaya’s agent?


what about watching yaya with gerrard's wife?
I dont think she could take him.I bet Ya Ya is hung like a Donkey. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:55 pm
by zabbadabbado
iwasthere2012 wrote:Yaya is easier to understand too.
I agree. :D

Ya Ya wouldnt be spitting all over you when he is talking like the scousers do.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:01 am
by dazby
With both at their absolute best for a one off game I'd take Yaya.

For consistency over their career I'd take Stevie G.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:36 pm
by fangsanalsatan
Not sure it makes sense to compare the two in the first place. De Bruyne is much closer to what Gerrard used to be than Yaya. Great engine, fantastic delivery and goal threat. Yaya on the other hand was better in bursts with his legendary runs and is quite comfortably the best short passer among the three, no contest.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:17 pm
by bigblue
dazby wrote:With both at their absolute best for a one off game I'd take Yaya.

For consistency over their career I'd take Stevie G.


If you're only considering Yaya during his time at City, then sure. But if you take into account his time at Monaco & Barcelona (and I don't know why you wouldn't), then it's Yaya every time.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:38 pm
by s1ty m
Original Dub wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Yaya scored goals in 3 cup finals and when it came to the wire for the title, he stepped up with decisive goals and amazing all round play.

Better in his prime for sure


Not expressing a view, but how many cup finals did Gerrard score in?


4 cup finals including the champions league. In fact, he's the only player to score in fa, league, UEFA cup final and champs league final.

Not bad at all.


I love Yaya...but this is not correct, mate. Never scored in a CL final...not sure about UEFA either.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:11 am
by RodneyRodney
Beefymcfc wrote:Slippy Me led them to mediocrity, Yaya and co led us to the heights that not many can fathom. Looking at their careers, then Yaya is just ahead but looking at what they accomplished individually?

Only one winner here.


Fathom is a measurement of depth

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:15 am
by RodneyRodney
Nigels Tackle wrote:yaya has more natural talent
gerrard was the better professional


Gerrard was more versatile ; played every outfield position for the Scouse.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:13 am
by Original Dub
s1ty m wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Yaya scored goals in 3 cup finals and when it came to the wire for the title, he stepped up with decisive goals and amazing all round play.

Better in his prime for sure


Not expressing a view, but how many cup finals did Gerrard score in?


4 cup finals including the champions league. In fact, he's the only player to score in fa, league, UEFA cup final and champs league final.

Not bad at all.


I love Yaya...but this is not correct, mate. Never scored in a CL final...not sure about UEFA either.


I was talking about Gerrard mate.

Re: Gerrard v Ya Ya

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:27 pm
by Dameerto
A prime Yaya beats a prime Gerrard - I'd say Yaya was better on the ball when he decided to go on a run, probably dwelled on the ball a bit more than Gerrard, I'd say they were about equal when it came to shooting, I'd favour Yaya slightly ahead of Gerrard for alround passing (Gerrard liked to play to the cameras with 'hail Mary' pass attempts far to often for my liking - Yaya's passes were almost always well considered) and Yaya has/had better vision. All of it in my opinion.