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Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:42 pm
by carolina-blue
dazby wrote:The allegations are that we have lied and not acted ethically in our financial dealings to comply with FFP.


If it’s not this it will be something else , the old adage of throw enough shit at the wall and some
Will stick . Cunts one and all . They are fuckin
Frightened to death of us .

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:35 am
by Bluemoon4610
dazby wrote:I hope we are clean on this. The Der Spiegel allegations don't sound good. It would break my heart if we were guilty, but so be it if we were.

I love my club. But, I also want my club to act ethically.


Ethically my arse!
FFP as a principle is unethical, brought in by a cartel to protect their business interests. Name me any other business where an owner is not allowed to invest his own money in his business to help it grow. There's every chance it is breaking European competition laws as well. City, PSG and anyone else affected should batter the arrogant fuckers through the courts to prove the point. I wouldn't be surprised if that was what was threatened last time......

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:38 am
by Mase
Bluemoon4610 wrote:
dazby wrote:I hope we are clean on this. The Der Spiegel allegations don't sound good. It would break my heart if we were guilty, but so be it if we were.

I love my club. But, I also want my club to act ethically.


Ethically my arse!
FFP as a principle is unethical, brought in by a cartel to protect their business interests. Name me any other business where an owner is not allowed to invest his own money in his business to help it grow. There's every chance it is breaking European competition laws as well. City, PSG and anyone else affected should batter the arrogant fuckers through the courts to prove the point. I wouldn't be surprised if that was what was threatened last time......


I think it probably was threatened last time, and that's why Uefa backed off. But like someone's mentioned, because of the press they've been backed in to a corner now and have to be seen to be at least looking in to the "leaks".

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:54 am
by johnny crossan
dazby wrote:The allegations are that we have lied and not acted ethically in our financial dealings to comply with FFP.

"Manchester City welcomes the opening of a formal UEFA investigation as an opportunity to bring to an end the speculation resulting from the illegal hacking and out of context publication of City emails. The accusation of financial irregularities are entirely false. The Club’s published accounts are full and complete and a matter of legal and regulatory record."

The ethical position is to expose FFP as a crude attempt by a contemptible cartel to extort even more TV revenues for themselves by illegal anti-competitive actions against other clubs. FFP is a crock.

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:03 am
by City64
dazby wrote:I hope we are clean on this. The Der Spiegel allegations don't sound good. It would break my heart if we were guilty, but so be it if we were.

I love my club. But, I also want my club to act ethically.

Ethically ???? We are dealing with probably the most unethical and corrupt organisation on the planet right now namely UEFA . The club you allegedly support has the power and bollocks to take on these cunts and it’s cartel on you should be proud ffs !!! As has already been said by other posters UEFA know we have their number but unfortunately with our money and power we have enemies who seek to make things difficult for us ....... big business and politics eh !

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:14 am
by salford city
I like the clubs response and it's long overdue. We should go after these cnuts if and when the allegations are proven to be nonsense. We all know it won't stop here though as there are too many in that cosy cartel who cannot compete with us. I hope us and PSG have advised these fuck-wits that this shit has got to stop or we are going to expose them through the courts which will bring the whole thing crashing down

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:02 am
by PeterParker
I hope the club will sue that fucking corrupt octopus that is called UEFA.

Fucking incredible how bent they really are.

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:08 am
by iwasthere2012
City64 wrote:
dazby wrote:I hope we are clean on this. The Der Spiegel allegations don't sound good. It would break my heart if we were guilty, but so be it if we were.

I love my club. But, I also want my club to act ethically.

Ethically ???? We are dealing with probably the most unethical and corrupt organisation on the planet right now namely UEFA . The club you allegedly support has the power and bollocks to take on these cunts and it’s cartel on you should be proud ffs !!! As has already been said by other posters UEFA know we have their number but unfortunately with our money and power we have enemies who seek to make things difficult for us ....... big business and politics eh !


I wouldn't deny that C64. I do like City's response also. Sad thing is though football was a great game. At least it was when I was playing and at kids and grassroots level it still is the best and easiest game to get going. All you need is a bit of space and a ball. No fancy gear or equipment needed. That's why it's so loved universally.
But they're turning it into Corporate power struggles, battles in the courtroom? It's not a sport it's an industry with power struggles more akin to Multi-national big business than a game between two teams. There are so many influences that have a stake in making money out of it that you can't avoid corruption.

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:44 am
by RodneyRodney
"Don't take any guff from those swine . . . "

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:48 am
by mr_nool
The silliest thing about this is the predictability. It started this autumn when we looked unbeatable, got quiet when Liverpool looked like there were going to run away with it, only to start again as soon as we're back on top. The media are playing the pipes and UEFA are dancing along.

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:37 am
by Outcast
mr_nool wrote:The silliest thing about this is the predictability. It started this autumn when we looked unbeatable, got quiet when Liverpool looked like there were going to run away with it, only to start again as soon as we're back on top. The media are playing the pipes and UEFA are dancing along.


I've been saying that all along, I find it astonishing whenever we are on top these allegations resurface. The fucking dipping cunts are calling for points deduction, those scrounging benefit fraudsters taking the high morale ground. We could give them a 10 point lead from this point and they'll still fuck it up :lol:

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:59 am
by carl_feedthegoat
mr_nool wrote:The silliest thing about this is the predictability. It started this autumn when we looked unbeatable, got quiet when Liverpool looked like there were going to run away with it, only to start again as soon as we're back on top. The media are playing the pipes and UEFA are dancing along.


I’m
Expecting a more robust rendition of the BOOOOOOOOOOOOOing City anthem next week.

Pep should keep shtum.

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:13 pm
by Harry Dowd scored
I think this is a way for UEFA to close this down, they are under pressure from various league and clubs to do something about City.
By announcing and carrying out an investigation, then ultimately finding nothing, they can clear City’s name and sign this off once and for all.
The media would have to be careful what they print after City are cleared, there would be legal pitfalls, all this could then be next weeks chip paper. Hopefully my evaluation is correct, but will take time, some knuckle dragging journo in the Mail said we could be banned from next years CL. This is nonsense for example the investigation has to be seen to take time, and, in the unlikely event of us failing, any legal appeal process could take years, meanwhile the status quo would be maintained That is continued participation of CL happy days bring it on :lol:

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:36 pm
by Outcast
Harry Dowd scored wrote:I think this is a way for UEFA to close this down, they are under pressure from various league and clubs to do something about City.
By announcing and carrying out an investigation, then ultimately finding nothing, they can clear City’s name and sign this off once and for all.
The media would have to be careful what they print after City are cleared, there would be legal pitfalls, all this could then be next weeks chip paper. Hopefully my evaluation is correct, but will take time, some knuckle dragging journo in the Mail said we could be banned from next years CL. This is nonsense for example the investigation has to be seen to take time, and, in the unlikely event of us failing, any legal appeal process could take years, meanwhile the status quo would be maintained That is continued participation of CL happy days bring it on :lol:


We could go out and spend £600m while being investigated just to piss off the haters, by time they find us guilty, we should stock pile trophies denying media darlings any chance of winning anything

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:37 pm
by salford city
I wonder who the purported 12 clubs are who are planning to write to the FA according to those bastions of morals at the bbc re our alleged breach?
I'll bet they're not planning anymore following our response - fucking rags and scouse shit stirrers

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:45 pm
by Mase
salford city wrote:I wonder who the purported 12 clubs are who are planning to write to the FA according to those bastions of morals at the bbc re our alleged breach?
I'll bet they're not planning anymore following our response - fucking rags and scouse shit stirrers


So 12 clubs are writing to the FA to get us investigated?? Absolute shithouse cunts.

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:46 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
Mase wrote:
salford city wrote:I wonder who the purported 12 clubs are who are planning to write to the FA according to those bastions of morals at the bbc re our alleged breach?
I'll bet they're not planning anymore following our response - fucking rags and scouse shit stirrers


So 12 clubs are writing to the FA to get us investigated?? Absolute shithouse cunts.


Investigated for what? The Sancho payment allegations?

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:39 pm
by Saul Goodman
Investigate for FP breaches. They want the Premier League to take action vs City (aka strip title and wins probably) if UEFA find us guilty. FFP only really governs european competition so now the fellow league clubs want the FA to step in and sanction City domestically.

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:26 pm
by salford city
Saul Goodman wrote:Investigate for FP breaches. They want the Premier League to take action vs City (aka strip title and wins probably) if UEFA find us guilty. FFP only really governs european competition so now the fellow league clubs want the FA to step in and sanction City domestically.


What pisses me off the most is that there was none of this when the rags were ruling the roost. All the rest of the premier with a couple of exceptions, bent over and said nothing whilst the rags raped them for their better players - Keane, Ferdinand, rooney etc. It"s dirty and shady as fuck and I think it's about time we came off the moral high ground and started bashing skulls and putting these goons in their place. We are not privy to what is going on behind the scenes but I hope we are putting the shits up these gossip mongers

Re: FFP 2.0

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:52 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
Saul Goodman wrote:Investigate for FP breaches. They want the Premier League to take action vs City (aka strip title and wins probably) if UEFA find us guilty. FFP only really governs european competition so now the fellow league clubs want the FA to step in and sanction City domestically.


Won’t happen. FA can’t apply sanctions for rules that don’t apply to the English game. It would be PL not FA anyway for points, who have their own, laxer, FFP policy. Idiots.