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Re: raheem sterling

Postby nottsblue » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:16 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Now get on the blower to PDG for £150 mil ;-)

Get in Raheem, you're top of the league!

PDG?

Do you mean PSG and go for Mbappe?
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:40 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Now get on the blower to PDG for £150 mil ;-)

Get in Raheem, you're top of the league!

PDG?

Do you mean PSG and go for Mbappe?

Yep, PSG, my sausage fingers don't quite fit this tablet ;-)

And no, I wouldn't swap him for Mbappe (plus a few quid to us), I was just making the point that he was worth a lot less with a reduced contract than he is now. I know we don't sell our best players but if we did, that's the minimum we should take at the moment.
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby nottsblue » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:52 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Now get on the blower to PDG for £150 mil ;-)

Get in Raheem, you're top of the league!

PDG?

Do you mean PSG and go for Mbappe?

Yep, PSG, my sausage fingers don't quite fit this tablet ;-)

And no, I wouldn't swap him for Mbappe (plus a few quid to us), I was just making the point that he was worth a lot less with a reduced contract than he is now. I know we don't sell our best players but if we did, that's the minimum we should take at the moment.

Wasn’t thinking of swapping him. More like just getting Mbappe on board to get him primed as Kuns replacement in a few years!
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby RodneyRodney » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:04 am

Martin Samuel - nail on the head as usual.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -time.html

Fall against Shakhtar Donetsk does not make Raheem Sterling a bad guy... he’s just a product of the time
Raheem Sterling was awarded penalty after tripping over the turf on Wednesday
Man City's Sterling didn’t do the right thing, but he didn’t do the wrong thing
It was felt Thierry Henry should have owned up to controlling ball with his hand
Henry was sly, Sterling was clumsy — Henry's was actually an offence in 2010
VAR is not perfect system but it would resolve travesties such as Sterling’s fall .

Given the headlines around Manchester City this week, in the seconds after Raheem Sterling went to ground against Shakhtar Donetsk, the silent prayers of the club’s executive class must have been as one.
Please, Raheem, own up. Please let us be the good guys tonight. Please do the right thing.
Footballers, however, do not think like public-relations specialists. Sterling didn’t do the right thing, but he didn’t do the wrong thing, either. He did what all professionals are told to do.

He played to the whistle and let the referee make his call. The problem being that some decisions are so erroneous, the correct path so obvious and straightforward, it is almost bringing the game into disrepute not to own up.
This is the position Stuart Broad found himself in at Trent Bridge in 2013 when he was very plainly caught at slip in the first Ashes Test, an event missed by only one person in the ground: the umpire Aleem Dar. Australia appealed with increasing disbelief that Dar was unseeing. Having used both of their reviews, they were reliant on Broad walking. He didn’t walk.
Good, said a lot of uber-realists and former internationals. Play to the umpire’s call and be a winner. But for many it left a sour taste. Some decisions are so obviously wrong that they transcend mere sporting pragmatism.
hey compel those involved to rise above black and white and just do what is best for the game. The Sterling penalty was like that. It was a moment of truth, and a moment for truth. A moment for Sterling to see the bigger picture. Sadly, he could not. This doesn’t make him a bad guy, just a product of the time. Sterling didn’t dive, he didn’t cheat. There was nothing devious in his fall, no attempt to hoodwink the referee. It was just a mistake. He tried a dink-chip over the goalkeeper, the type in which Lionel Messi specialises, buried his toe in the turf instead and tumbled.
Some have argued he might have felt contact and thought it was a defender, but Sterling has admitted this was not the case. He just tripped, he says, and he should have confessed. He knows that now.
That he couldn’t see it then — just as Broad couldn’t — is a wider problem for sport, rather than just an issue for the player. It is ingrained now, this desire to seek advantage by any means. It is close to universal. How often do we see players appeal for decisions — throw-ins, corners — that they know would be wrongly awarded if given? It is a default mechanism to shout ‘our ball’ even when the last touch is obviously yours.
And these are not goals at stake but throw-ins, often in positions that offer scant benefit, when it might actually be easier to defend and score on the counter-attack. Sterling is just at the extreme end of that scale.
His silence looks worse than a knowingly false ‘our ball’ shout because the image is so clear and the outcome — a penalty from which Manchester City scored — so influential. Yet it is little different really. He got away with what he could and only in retrospect did he feel guilt — and that is if we take his apology at face value, and not as damage limitation on the advice of City’s flustered media arm.
Maybe there was a bevelled sense of justice at work in the original process, too. After all, why is it only forwards who are expected to be unsparingly honest? Think of how many times Sterling is kicked or unfairly impeded in a match. Do we require defenders to come clean about their tricks?
When has a centre half ever gone to the referee and confessed to holding or pulling, or a sneaky trip? ‘I don’t know if you noticed, ref, but I had my arm around his throat the whole time there. Can’t believe you missed it, actually. You’ll never see a clearer penalty...’
Sterling may have felt that here, at last, was payback for all the times fouls on him go unnoticed.
There was a similar debate around Thierry Henry’s actions for France in a 2010 World Cup play-off game against the Republic of Ireland. It was felt Henry should have owned up to controlling the ball with his hand on the way to setting up the goal that won the game. Yet Henry actually committed an offence. Sterling didn’t. He wasn’t seeking to fool the referee or gain advantage when he fell over. He just messed up and got lucky.
Henry was sly, Sterling was clumsy. The preferable solution — honesty — might have been the same, but the incidents were not. Had the referee spotted what Henry did he would have awarded a free-kick against France. Had he got proper sight of what happened to Sterling, no action would have been taken.
And where were the officials in all this? If ever final proof was needed that the worst idea Michel Platini ever had — and there are some contenders — was the presence of additional assistant referees behind the byline, then here it is.
The one man who might have saved referee Viktor Kassai from embarrassment instead supported his rotten decision. There is justified debate around whether Kassai is of adequate standard for the Champions League but he is, apparently, the best referee in Hungary.
As UEFA officials come in teams from one nation, however, that means the man supervising the penalty area may well be Hungary’s fifth or sixth most gifted arbitrator. Does his experience make him a good judge of matches played in front of significant crowds, featuring elite players?
How many of Sterling’s class play in the leading Hungarian league, for instance? This is a competition with an average gate of less than 3,000, where the biggest club, Ferencvaros, are watched by roughly 9,000.
There were 52,286 at City on Wednesday and many would have wrongly perceived Sterling’s fall. These games are a huge step up in grade and mood for many of the referees and support staff.
Equally, only Platini could have reasoned that the way to address human error was by throwing more humans at the problem.
It would not have needed Sterling to suffer pangs of conscience and make a rational decision in the heat of the moment if UEFA had embraced VAR technology at the same time as much of the world.
VAR is not the perfect system but it would undoubtedly resolve utter travesties such as Sterling’s fall. Indeed, if UEFA are wary of technology, incidents like this could be all VAR addresses. If the governing body does not want external rulings on marginal offsides or penalty appeals that remain a matter of opinion after 10 viewings, fine. Just have it for travesties.
Those occasions when the game is made to look foolish. It shouldn’t be down to the players to enter the confession booth mid-game, or to walk through a moral maze. One replay, taking seconds, resolves Wednesday night’s controversy, and UEFA appear ridiculous for not embracing technology, given the chance.
For Sterling, for football then, this is a teachable moment. We know what must happen from here, but also what should happen at the time, no matter the stakes. There was an opportunity on Wednesday night to set an example, to instil better standards, and it was spurned.
And while it doesn’t make Sterling a bad guy, he missed the chance to be a good one. He’s not alone, though. Anyone might have done the same. Absolutely anyone.
And, right there, is the heart of the matter.
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby JamieMCFC » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:19 pm

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Re: raheem sterling

Postby Scatman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:27 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:


Would perhaps have looked a bit less impersonal if the signature wasn't done by the same printer as the letter
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby mr_nool » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:40 pm

Scatman wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:


Would perhaps have looked a bit less impersonal if the signature wasn't done by the same printer as the letter


Nitpicking. Raheem is a fucking role model. With all the adversary he's faced, there's no one else I rather see succeed than him.
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby fangsanalsatan » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:17 am

Not a fan of Lucida Handwriting tbh.
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby Nigels Tackle » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:20 am

mr_nool wrote:
Scatman wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:


Would perhaps have looked a bit less impersonal if the signature wasn't done by the same printer as the letter


Nitpicking. Raheem is a fucking role model. With all the adversary he's faced, there's no one else I rather see succeed than him.


seriously cuntish when one of ‘our own’ is calling him out
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby Wonderwall » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:13 am

That is a very classy thing to do. Well done Raheem.
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby s1ty m » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:35 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Scatman wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:


Would perhaps have looked a bit less impersonal if the signature wasn't done by the same printer as the letter


Nitpicking. Raheem is a fucking role model. With all the adversary he's faced, there's no one else I rather see succeed than him.


seriously cuntish when one of ‘our own’ is calling him out


I have no idea how anyone can find anything negative in that letter. Nitpicking...absurd.
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Re: raheem sterling

Postby littlebig » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:08 pm

Good on ya Raheem lad!
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