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Postby Spurge » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:47 pm

Lets not get carried away but.....i think he could be the long term replacement for david silva
I mean why not?
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby stevefromdonny » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:11 pm

he did have a couple of moments put a decent pass in when going around 4 Swansea players
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby john68 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:18 pm

Of all the kids I’ve seen over the years, Foden is up there with the best.
The big advantage he has now is that he trains daily with some of the World’s greatest players, under probably the World’s greatest coach.
If he can’t help but develop in that regime.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Mase » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:14 pm

What impressed me the most is he’s ALWAYS looking to get involved. Showing constantly as an option whilst we have the ball.

He definitely seemed more the Silva type than KDB. Good with the ball in closed spaces.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby zuricity » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:15 pm

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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Spurge » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:31 pm

Came on in 71st min and completed 21 passes. More than any swansea player.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Bluedj » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:28 pm

Thought he was excellent today. Wanted the ball all the time. Some great tidy footwork in some very tight spaces. Looking forward to watching this kid develop
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Mase » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:34 pm

I’m also glad he seems like he’s got the right attitude - unlike that Sancho that was missing training constantly.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby sheblue » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:44 pm

Hopefully we see a lot more of him in the final few days.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:25 pm

Mase wrote:I’m also glad he seems like he’s got the right attitude - unlike that Sancho that was missing training constantly.


Not sure about missing training constantly, just the last period when he wasn't signing a contract but make no mistake Sancho is a fabulous talent and will make it at the top level
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Mase » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:29 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Mase wrote:I’m also glad he seems like he’s got the right attitude - unlike that Sancho that was missing training constantly.


Not sure about missing training constantly, just the last period when he wasn't signing a contract but make no mistake Sancho is a fabulous talent and will make it at the top level


He missed it on more than one occasion toward the end. Spat his dummy out like the little twat he is.

Even if he missed it once - that’s a shit attitude.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby JamieMCFC » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:19 pm

Being reported that Dortmund is interested in Foden.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:28 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:Being reported that Dortmund is interested in Foden.


They need to hurry up if they want him, they'll struggle to get a visa for him if they don't do it before March.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby sheblue » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:19 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:Being reported that Dortmund is interested in Foden.


I am sure that they are not the only ones.
But seriously, we need to start giving him more premier league game time, and Diaz too. Although I do agree that the latter will be on his bike, and that's a shame.
Its not an easy one. Its a results business.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:41 pm

sheblue wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:Being reported that Dortmund is interested in Foden.


I am sure that they are not the only ones.
But seriously, we need to start giving him more premier league game time, and Diaz too. Although I do agree that the latter will be on his bike, and that's a shame.
Its not an easy one. Its a results business.

I agree Diaz may be on his bike, but not necessarily.
It really comes down to the individual and what they want. Look at the likes of Zinchenko who is only a little bit older and got himself a bit part last year.
I appreciate he didn't come through the academy the same as the other pair, but the difficulty in securing a place rather than going out on loan is the same.
He looked to be out the door but chose to stay and fight for game time and learn more, no doubt.
I admire that and would certainly hope it would be the attitude of both others.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Saul Goodman » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:08 pm

IWT youre spot on about Oleks but his situation is slightly different from Foden's and Diaz's. Oleks was able to be utilized in a postion where the top 2 players are injury prone. Diaz and Foden have Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Silva, Bernardo, KDB, Gundogan, & to a lesser extent Jesus in their positions ahead of them. For Diaz or Foden to get a continuous run of games like Oleks had last season we'd have to suffer an almighty injury crisis. There are just too many established players ahead of them that can play in basically every position in midfield.

I dont see how Foden and Diaz have a chance getting a decent amount of game time--and I'm not talking about 12 minutes at the end of match.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby mr_nool » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:23 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:IWT youre spot on about Oleks but his situation is slightly different from Foden's and Diaz's. Oleks was able to be utilized in a postion where the top 2 players are injury prone. Diaz and Foden have Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Silva, Bernardo, KDB, Gundogan, & to a lesser extent Jesus in their positions ahead of them. For Diaz or Foden to get a continuous run of games like Oleks had last season we'd have to suffer an almighty injury crisis. There are just too many established players ahead of them that can play in basically every position in midfield.

I dont see how Foden and Diaz have a chance getting a decent amount of game time--and I'm not talking about 12 minutes at the end of match.


Zinchenko's natural position is pretty similar to Foden. If young Phil had been one year further in his development it could have been him filling in at left back. Chance, luck and circumstances play a big part.

That said, I do believe Pep rates Foden higher than the Zinch and probably wouldn't like to waste his talent as fullback. He will get his chances this season.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:01 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:IWT youre spot on about Oleks but his situation is slightly different from Foden's and Diaz's. Oleks was able to be utilized in a postion where the top 2 players are injury prone. Diaz and Foden have Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Silva, Bernardo, KDB, Gundogan, & to a lesser extent Jesus in their positions ahead of them. For Diaz or Foden to get a continuous run of games like Oleks had last season we'd have to suffer an almighty injury crisis. There are just too many established players ahead of them that can play in basically every position in midfield.

I dont see how Foden and Diaz have a chance getting a decent amount of game time--and I'm not talking about 12 minutes at the end of match.


Zinchenko's natural position is pretty similar to Foden. If young Phil had been one year further in his development it could have been him filling in at left back. Chance, luck and circumstances play a big part.

That said, I do believe Pep rates Foden higher than the Zinch and probably wouldn't like to waste his talent as fullback. He will get his chances this season.


I appreciate what Saul is saying and it is difficult for Diaz in particular. Personally I think we could have done without spending on Mahrez and we could have taken the chance on Diaz filling the squad place.

Money saved could have gone on a proper replacement for Fern.

But I agree with Noolie, I think Pep rates Foden and will want to keep him around.

It really is up to the individuals what they want. Do they wish to wait and learn. Be adaptable. Take the chances you get wherever you get them. I don’t blame Sancho for going as it’s a bold move to move abroad. I think he’ll learn a lot in life alone.
But Diaz going back to Spain would, to me, seem like an easier option than staying and learning under Pep. Which is more character building?
I genuinely don’t know. It really is between him the club and Pep. Same for Foden.
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:52 pm

Mase wrote:What impressed me the most is he’s ALWAYS looking to get involved. Showing constantly as an option whilst we have the ball.

He definitely seemed more the Silva type than KDB. Good with the ball in closed spaces.


Agreed. I’ve also been impressed how smart he seems to be on the pitch. keeps it simple most of times but is capable of stepping up at the right time (like his through ball v..oxford?) instead of trying too hard as is often the case with young kids when they come on.

Good start, keep working hard lad!
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Re: Phil Foden

Postby Saul Goodman » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:07 am

mr_nool wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:IWT youre spot on about Oleks but his situation is slightly different from Foden's and Diaz's. Oleks was able to be utilized in a postion where the top 2 players are injury prone. Diaz and Foden have Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Silva, Bernardo, KDB, Gundogan, & to a lesser extent Jesus in their positions ahead of them. For Diaz or Foden to get a continuous run of games like Oleks had last season we'd have to suffer an almighty injury crisis. There are just too many established players ahead of them that can play in basically every position in midfield.

I dont see how Foden and Diaz have a chance getting a decent amount of game time--and I'm not talking about 12 minutes at the end of match.

Zinchenko's natural position is pretty similar to Foden. If young Phil had been one year further in his development it could have been him filling in at left back. Chance, luck and circumstances play a big part.

That said, I do believe Pep rates Foden higher than the Zinch and probably wouldn't like to waste his talent as fullback. He will get his chances this season.

That last bit is correct. I know that Oleks is a midfielder like Foden but apart from that random Shakhtar match I dont think Foden would ever be wasted at fullback even if we had a crisis. Thats why he's in a log-jam but Zinchenko got an extended run of matches last season.
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