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Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:58 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Bluemoon4610 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
FA cup winners 2006 wrote:We need players to improve our cl form in the latter stages and I don't see any of the players we are linked with doing that. I just see us linked with more of the same players - players who can play nice football at times but when the pressure is on in Europe they wouldn't be expected to be team leaders.

Our current team leaders need replacing soon and Fernandinho, Silva, Kompany, Ottamendi and Walker always seem to have stinkers in the big cl games. They seem to want it to much and put in shite performances. They can't be expected to carry inexperienced players


The Champions league is highly dependent on luck, take Spurs for example, 12 defeats in all comps since the turn of the year and yet will be the 'best team in Europe'.


Fixed it for you :D


Cheers, I meant to write 'at least be'.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:40 pm
by FA cup winners 2006
Dimples wrote:
FA cup winners 2006 wrote:We need players to improve our cl form in the latter stages and I don't see any of the players we are linked with doing that. I just see us linked with more of the same players - players who can play nice football at times but when the pressure is on in Europe they wouldn't be expected to be team leaders.

Our current team leaders need replacing soon and Fernandinho, Silva, Kompany, Ottamendi and Walker always seem to have stinkers in the big cl games. They seem to want it to much and put in shite performances. They can't be expected to carry inexperienced players


I strongly disagree.
2018 we were done by the ref. Home and away. Not even subtle. For ex, Jimmy played Sane onside, etc...
2019 we were done by Var. All the angles were not shown to the Ref.....
2017 more dodgy decisions from the Ref.

If you still doubt that this competition is not rotten to the core look at Chelsea Vs. Barcelona in 2009.
Also, have a read re the new proposed 'format' for CL. It is plain as day.


Go back and watch the first 10 mins of the Liverpool game, we were shockingly bad. So many simple misplaced passes from Silva, De Bruyne, Gundogan and Ottamendi with Fernandinho running around like a headless chicken. We just weren't at the races.

Blaming the ref is a complete cod. Take the spurs 2nd leg. We go 1 up and then completely fall apart at the back and concede 2 away goals. It was idiotic. We know we can play against the press and we know we can kill the momentum of games by keeping the ball but we didn't do any of that. We panicked when they pressed us, we lost the ball up the field with our centre backs sitting too deep leaving huge amount of space for spurs too run into.

Simply, we get stage fright in the cl and we don't do what we do day in day out in training and that's why we need players who will be able to perform at that level

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:01 pm
by sheblue
FA cup winners 2006 wrote:
Dimples wrote:
FA cup winners 2006 wrote:We need players to improve our cl form in the latter stages and I don't see any of the players we are linked with doing that. I just see us linked with more of the same players - players who can play nice football at times but when the pressure is on in Europe they wouldn't be expected to be team leaders.

Our current team leaders need replacing soon and Fernandinho, Silva, Kompany, Ottamendi and Walker always seem to have stinkers in the big cl games. They seem to want it to much and put in shite performances. They can't be expected to carry inexperienced players


I strongly disagree.
2018 we were done by the ref. Home and away. Not even subtle. For ex, Jimmy played Sane onside, etc...
2019 we were done by Var. All the angles were not shown to the Ref.....
2017 more dodgy decisions from the Ref.

If you still doubt that this competition is not rotten to the core look at Chelsea Vs. Barcelona in 2009.
Also, have a read re the new proposed 'format' for CL. It is plain as day.


Go back and watch the first 10 mins of the Liverpool game, we were shockingly bad. So many simple misplaced passes from Silva, De Bruyne, Gundogan and Ottamendi with Fernandinho running around like a headless chicken. We just weren't at the races.

Blaming the ref is a complete cod. Take the spurs 2nd leg. We go 1 up and then completely fall apart at the back and concede 2 away goals. It was idiotic. We know we can play against the press and we know we can kill the momentum of games by keeping the ball but we didn't do any of that. We panicked when they pressed us, we lost the ball up the field with our centre backs sitting too deep leaving huge amount of space for spurs too run into.

Simply, we get stage fright in the cl and we don't do what we do day in day out in training and that's why we need players who will be able to perform at that level


Now now enough of that. It's all the refs fault.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 4:17 am
by Saul Goodman
With Barca as the favorites for Griezmann and them having splashed on De Jong already I'm getting cautiously optimistic that we might pip them to De Ligt. Nico appears to be leaving and Kompany needs replacing; that leaves Laporte & Stones plus Garcia.

I guess that Barca could sell the underwhelming Coutinho and fund the De Ligt deal....or they could use it to help cancel out of the outlay on Griezmann

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:54 am
by Clowncrete
Saul Goodman wrote:With Barca as the favorites for Griezmann and them having splashed on De Jong already I'm getting cautiously optimistic that we might pip them to De Ligt. Nico appears to be leaving and Kompany needs replacing; that leaves Laporte & Stones plus Garcia.

I guess that Barca could sell the underwhelming Coutinho and fund the De Ligt deal....or they could use it to help cancel out of the outlay on Griezmann


You just know Psg will blow a crazy amount on Coutinho because he is Neymar's friend.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:19 am
by salford city
Clowncrete wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:With Barca as the favorites for Griezmann and them having splashed on De Jong already I'm getting cautiously optimistic that we might pip them to De Ligt. Nico appears to be leaving and Kompany needs replacing; that leaves Laporte & Stones plus Garcia.

I guess that Barca could sell the underwhelming Coutinho and fund the De Ligt deal....or they could use it to help cancel out of the outlay on Griezmann


You just know Psg will blow a crazy amount on Coutinho because he is Neymar's friend.


More fool them if they do. Coutinho has not impressed at Barca, maybe he has suffered having to play second fiddle to Messi, but it has not worked for him. I think he would have the same issue at PSG

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:38 am
by PeterParker
salford city wrote:
Clowncrete wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:With Barca as the favorites for Griezmann and them having splashed on De Jong already I'm getting cautiously optimistic that we might pip them to De Ligt. Nico appears to be leaving and Kompany needs replacing; that leaves Laporte & Stones plus Garcia.

I guess that Barca could sell the underwhelming Coutinho and fund the De Ligt deal....or they could use it to help cancel out of the outlay on Griezmann


You just know Psg will blow a crazy amount on Coutinho because he is Neymar's friend.


More fool them if they do. Coutinho has not impressed at Barca, maybe he has suffered having to play second fiddle to Messi, but it has not worked for him. I think he would have the same issue at PSG


If Hazard goes to Madrid, Cuntinho might go to Chelsea.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:39 am
by salford city
Not with an impending transfer ban?

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:10 am
by PeterParker
salford city wrote:Not with an impending transfer ban?


I think this windows is safe for Chelsea because they attacked the decision. For example, Pulisic is coming now. Even if they signed him and loaned him back to Dortmund.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 11:40 am
by Dunnylad
PeterParker wrote:
salford city wrote:Not with an impending transfer ban?


I think this windows is safe for Chelsea because they attacked the decision. For example, Pulisic is coming now. Even if they signed him and loaned him back to Dortmund.

No I’m sure Chelsea are under a ban even with an appeal in, someone has learnt from past experience where clubs appealed (even though they knew they were guilty) bought players - Pulisic was signed in January before the ban came in

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:02 pm
by blues2win
Coutinho very likely off. Barca clearly favourites for de Ligt but you never know. A lot depends on who is going. Kompany May stay one more year. What about Otter? Or Sane? Or Gundogan. Or Danilo? I like the look of Wan Bissaka to provide proper competition for Walker. Above all we need a really top class replacement for Fernandinho preferably with some height pace and strength. Ndombele would be great.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 1:19 pm
by JamieMCFC
Dunnylad wrote:No I’m sure Chelsea are under a ban even with an appeal in, someone has learnt from past experience where clubs appealed (even though they knew they were guilty) bought players - Pulisic was signed in January before the ban came in


Their appeal process was the same as everyone else up until this point, they received the ban and appealed. During that initial appeal process they bought Pulisic. Their appeal has been turned down like everyone else. Now they are taking it a step further and taking it to the CAS. during this phase they can purchase any players.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:09 pm
by Dunnylad
JamieMCFC wrote:
Dunnylad wrote:No I’m sure Chelsea are under a ban even with an appeal in, someone has learnt from past experience where clubs appealed (even though they knew they were guilty) bought players - Pulisic was signed in January before the ban came in


Their appeal process was the same as everyone else up until this point, they received the ban and appealed. During that initial appeal process they bought Pulisic. Their appeal has been turned down like everyone else. Now they are taking it a step further and taking it to the CAS. during this phase they can purchase any players.

Unfortunately for Chelsea, FIFA rejected their request to delay the sanction until the appeal is heard, a decision which left the Premier League club feeling "astonished".
A statement released on the club's official website read: "Chelsea Football Club is astonished by the FIFA Appeal Committee’s decision not to suspend its sanction pending completion of the appeal process."
The statement added: "So far as the Club is aware, in all previous cases where a registration ban has been imposed by FIFA, a decision has also been made to suspend the sanction until the appeal process has been completed. In this case, Chelsea considers that it is being treated inconsistently in comparison with other European clubs."

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:32 pm
by salford city
Dunnylad wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:
Dunnylad wrote:No I’m sure Chelsea are under a ban even with an appeal in, someone has learnt from past experience where clubs appealed (even though they knew they were guilty) bought players - Pulisic was signed in January before the ban came in


Their appeal process was the same as everyone else up until this point, they received the ban and appealed. During that initial appeal process they bought Pulisic. Their appeal has been turned down like everyone else. Now they are taking it a step further and taking it to the CAS. during this phase they can purchase any players.

Unfortunately for Chelsea, FIFA rejected their request to delay the sanction until the appeal is heard, a decision which left the Premier League club feeling "astonished".
A statement released on the club's official website read: "Chelsea Football Club is astonished by the FIFA Appeal Committee’s decision not to suspend its sanction pending completion of the appeal process."
The statement added: "So far as the Club is aware, in all previous cases where a registration ban has been imposed by FIFA, a decision has also been made to suspend the sanction until the appeal process has been completed. In this case, Chelsea considers that it is being treated inconsistently in comparison with other European clubs."


It would seem that Chelsea are being treated differently in this case. Sounds like they are setting a precedent. Fair enough as long as they apply it the same for all including Farca & Franco's Fascists

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:49 pm
by Mase
Hope Chelsea and the Russian murder Fifa

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:23 pm
by JamieMCFC
Dunnylad wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:
Dunnylad wrote:No I’m sure Chelsea are under a ban even with an appeal in, someone has learnt from past experience where clubs appealed (even though they knew they were guilty) bought players - Pulisic was signed in January before the ban came in


Their appeal process was the same as everyone else up until this point, they received the ban and appealed. During that initial appeal process they bought Pulisic. Their appeal has been turned down like everyone else. Now they are taking it a step further and taking it to the CAS. during this phase they can purchase any players.

Unfortunately for Chelsea, FIFA rejected their request to delay the sanction until the appeal is heard, a decision which left the Premier League club feeling "astonished".
A statement released on the club's official website read: "Chelsea Football Club is astonished by the FIFA Appeal Committee’s decision not to suspend its sanction pending completion of the appeal process."
The statement added: "So far as the Club is aware, in all previous cases where a registration ban has been imposed by FIFA, a decision has also been made to suspend the sanction until the appeal process has been completed. In this case, Chelsea considers that it is being treated inconsistently in comparison with other European clubs."


They appealed the decision in February and the decision was heard in May and FIFA Appeal Committee rejected the appeal. All the other European clubs that have received this ban stopped appeals process once the FIFA Appeal Committee rejected the appeal. Chelsea is taking it a step further and is going to the CAS. I'm not sure when those other clubs received their ban and when they appealed the decision and when the FIFA Appeal Committee made their decision. So no one including Chelsea knows how they would have treated those other European clubs if they took their cases to the CAS. People only speculate and assume what FIFA would have done.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:01 pm
by Mase
I'd just sign players and tell FIFA to go fuck themselves. If the selling club and the player say they've signed for Chelsea, what can the cunts do? Ban them? Oh, they've already done that.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:33 pm
by JamieMCFC
Mase wrote:I'd just sign players and tell FIFA to go fuck themselves. If the selling club and the player say they've signed for Chelsea, what can the cunts do? Ban them? Oh, they've already done that.


Chelsea can buy players during the ban, they just can't register them. People and the media keep using transfer ban, its a registration ban. So they wouldn't be eligible to play and if they played them the game would be a forfeit.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:06 pm
by Crossie
Khaldoon (can’t wait for his season review vid) has said in the past if they tried to ban us from anything we’d hire the best 50 lawyers in the world and turn them upside down and win. 4 years ago they shit themselves and begged us to pay a small fine, deferred larger fine and deferred competition ban so that they still looked well ‘ard.

This time we will not be so generous. Let alone the fact that stolen evidence is not permissible in court.

I don’t think they will dare ban us, they’ll just ask us nicely to not make them look too foolish by only signing £200 million of new players instead of £300 million.

Re: ***Official Summer Transfer Thread***

PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 12:38 pm
by Saul Goodman
So the window is now open right? Or is it the 18th?