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bigblue wrote:Almost like Southgate never watched the PL season. Raheem is great at running defenders into the ground and scoring in the last few minutes

it is not necessaily about running defenders , they all know that on a chase for the ball, Sterling will be there first .

Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

No.

But they did better than expected to be fair.

One shot on goal in 120 minutes Kane was garbage

Well, we got what we deserved in the end. After the early goal I really thought we would do it but Southgates limitations were brutally exposed. He made some terrible substitutions and at the wrong times. Croatia were much more lively and had a game plan which they executed well.

Still, a semi final place was much more than I thought we would achieve a month ago. All in all over the tournament we did well and we can hold our heads high.

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

I wouldn't criticise anyone who was out there tonight mate

john@staustell wrote:

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

I wouldn't criticise anyone who was out there tonight mate

Kane?

Woodyblue wrote:One shot on goal in 120 minutes Kane was garbage

Well the media won't report it.

Woodyblue wrote:One shot on goal in 120 minutes Kane was garbage

You've played football?

Someone said just now Kane disappeared, other than two brief moments in this game he's not shown up in the last two games, hardly captain material IMHO.

Failing to put the game to bed first half when modric and co didn't look at the races cost us dearly

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

Contenders? Yes
Winners? No

We are clapping again

zuricity wrote:

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

No.

But they did better than expected to be fair.

Agree with zuricity here. Disappointed to lose, but I expected to reach the last 16 and no more. Nothing has changed my opinion that we have limited creative talent and therefore will not challenge at the highest level.

Tokyo Blue wrote:

zuricity wrote:

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

No.

But they did better than expected to be fair.

Agree with zuricity here. Disappointed to lose, but I expected to reach the last 16 and no more. Nothing has changed my opinion that we have limited creative talent and therefore will not challenge at the highest level.

Would Phil Foden have done a worse job than Alli tonight?

Mase wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:

zuricity wrote:

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

No.

But they did better than expected to be fair.

Agree with zuricity here. Disappointed to lose, but I expected to reach the last 16 and no more. Nothing has changed my opinion that we have limited creative talent and therefore will not challenge at the highest level.

Would Phil Foden have done a worse job than Alli tonight?

No. Alli was in full-on Salman Rushdie mode. As was his mate Kane.

nottsblue wrote:Well, we got what we deserved in the end. After the early goal I really thought we would do it but Southgates limitations were brutally exposed. He made some terrible substitutions and at the wrong times. Croatia were much more lively and had a game plan which they executed well.

Still, a semi final place was much more than I thought we would achieve a month ago. All in all over the tournament we did well and we can hold our heads high.

Don't write such siht ! Game plan ? Croatia scored two speculative goals, that is not a game plan . Englands fault is the manager , who for no reason felt it was ok to take off the one player keeping croatia at bay . Big cock up.

Tokyo Blue wrote:

Mase wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:

zuricity wrote:

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

No.

But they did better than expected to be fair.

Agree with zuricity here. Disappointed to lose, but I expected to reach the last 16 and no more. Nothing has changed my opinion that we have limited creative talent and therefore will not challenge at the highest level.

Would Phil Foden have done a worse job than Alli tonight?

No. Alli was in full-on Salman Rushdie mode. As was his mate Kane.

I think some blame for Ali must be laid at Southgate's door. He was not fighting fit and able to dominate midfield, thus should not have been selected

It's not about what club you play for. It is what it is.

Some credit is called for

So England and Southgate gave the nation hope then morphed into West Brom and Stoke City for a World Cup Semi Final ............ no wonder we never win fuck all !!!

zuricity wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Well, we got what we deserved in the end. After the early goal I really thought we would do it but Southgates limitations were brutally exposed. He made some terrible substitutions and at the wrong times. Croatia were much more lively and had a game plan which they executed well.

Still, a semi final place was much more than I thought we would achieve a month ago. All in all over the tournament we did well and we can hold our heads high.

Don't write such siht ! Game plan ? Croatia scored two speculative goals, that is not a game plan . Englands fault is the manager , who for no reason felt it was ok to take off the one player keeping croatia at bay . Big cock up.

They had more shots than us, ran the midfield and passed the ball about a lot better than us and posed more of a threat in our box than we did in theirs.

Mase wrote:

john@staustell wrote:

Mase wrote:Commentator has just said England are back as contenders.

Do yous genuinely believe that or?

Remembering Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Spain all went out early. Italy didn't even qualify. And England had an easy run to the semis.

Genuine question

I wouldn't criticise anyone who was out there tonight mate

Kane?

It is worrying when you build your team around spurs and ex spurs players.

Even Ramsey dropped Greaves.