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Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:27 am
by Dameerto
Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:no it wasn’t. we still missed far too many ‘easy’ chances. it was always going to catch up with us but i was ridiculed for pointing it out.

some stats on this season for you...

This season the reigning champions have compiled an astonishing 317 shots at goal in the Premier League that dwarfs Liverpool’s 154. But while Salah and co have a clinical 39% success ratio from their tally City’s languishes at nearly half that on 20.5%.


Stats

17/18 highest conversion rate in league
18/19 3rd highest conversion rate in league
19/20 11th highest conversion rate in league

What date was on OD's post?


our chance conversion rate is pretty much exactly the same as over the past 3 seasons:
2017/18 - 20.8%
2018/19 - 19.4%
2019/20 - 20.4%

source: https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-le ... on_id/2019

not good enough now. not good enough then. for a team of our quality. liverpool proving that point now with a near 40% conversion rate.

waiting eagerly for you and spazby to respond.


Can’t argue with that.

This season isn't the same as the previous two seasons though - and any statistic that suggests a parity to those seasons should instantly raise questions. (If we're converting at the same rate this season, then it suggests we're not creating the same amount of chances to win matches this season compared to the previous two).

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:47 am
by dazby
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:no it wasn’t. we still missed far too many ‘easy’ chances. it was always going to catch up with us but i was ridiculed for pointing it out.

some stats on this season for you...

This season the reigning champions have compiled an astonishing 317 shots at goal in the Premier League that dwarfs Liverpool’s 154. But while Salah and co have a clinical 39% success ratio from their tally City’s languishes at nearly half that on 20.5%.


Stats

17/18 highest conversion rate in league
18/19 3rd highest conversion rate in league
19/20 11th highest conversion rate in league

What date was on OD's post?


our chance conversion rate is pretty much exactly the same as over the past 3 seasons:
2017/18 - 20.8%
2018/19 - 19.4%
2019/20 - 20.4%

source: https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-le ... on_id/2019

not good enough now. not good enough then. for a team of our quality. liverpool proving that point now with a near 40% conversion rate.

waiting eagerly for you and spazby to respond.


It's a decent, above average conversion rate. The dippers have an amazing rate.

Again, how would you fix it Nige?

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:59 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Had a look at Premier League's big chance conversion, 1 in 3 the last two seasons, 1 in 4 this season.

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:14 pm
by Nigels Tackle
dazby wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:no it wasn’t. we still missed far too many ‘easy’ chances. it was always going to catch up with us but i was ridiculed for pointing it out.

some stats on this season for you...

This season the reigning champions have compiled an astonishing 317 shots at goal in the Premier League that dwarfs Liverpool’s 154. But while Salah and co have a clinical 39% success ratio from their tally City’s languishes at nearly half that on 20.5%.


Stats

17/18 highest conversion rate in league
18/19 3rd highest conversion rate in league
19/20 11th highest conversion rate in league

What date was on OD's post?


our chance conversion rate is pretty much exactly the same as over the past 3 seasons:
2017/18 - 20.8%
2018/19 - 19.4%
2019/20 - 20.4%

source: https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-le ... on_id/2019

not good enough now. not good enough then. for a team of our quality. liverpool proving that point now with a near 40% conversion rate.

waiting eagerly for you and spazby to respond.


It's a decent, above average conversion rate. The dippers have an amazing rate.

Again, how would you fix it Nige?


create less chances to make the players hungrier for goals. think about it and won’t be as stupid as it sounds

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:02 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Nigels Tackle wrote:
dazby wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:no it wasn’t. we still missed far too many ‘easy’ chances. it was always going to catch up with us but i was ridiculed for pointing it out.

some stats on this season for you...

This season the reigning champions have compiled an astonishing 317 shots at goal in the Premier League that dwarfs Liverpool’s 154. But while Salah and co have a clinical 39% success ratio from their tally City’s languishes at nearly half that on 20.5%.


Stats

17/18 highest conversion rate in league
18/19 3rd highest conversion rate in league
19/20 11th highest conversion rate in league

What date was on OD's post?


our chance conversion rate is pretty much exactly the same as over the past 3 seasons:
2017/18 - 20.8%
2018/19 - 19.4%
2019/20 - 20.4%

source: https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-le ... on_id/2019

not good enough now. not good enough then. for a team of our quality. liverpool proving that point now with a near 40% conversion rate.

waiting eagerly for you and spazby to respond.


It's a decent, above average conversion rate. The dippers have an amazing rate.

Again, how would you fix it Nige?


create less chances to make the players hungrier for goals. think about it and won’t be as stupid as it sounds


Tongue in cheek?

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:53 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
There's a feature in FourFourTwo that shows that based on 'expected points', City would actually be leading the table, 5 points ahead of dippers (City 57 points, dippers 52). 'Expected points' and 'expected goals' have some question marks over how realistic they are, but the article puts the differences between the expectation and reality down to their ruthless finishing in some tight matches (no mention of VAR) and our poor finishing and inability to close out games we dominate (which I take to be poor defending and sometimes reluctance to actually shoot).

It's not a watertight methodology, but does reflect what a lot of us have seen:

FourFoutTwo

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:55 am
by Hazy2
[quote="Hutch's Shoulder"]There's a feature in FourFourTwo that shows that based on 'expected points', City would actually be leading the table, 5 points ahead of dippers (City 57 points, dippers 52). 'Expected points' and 'expected goals' have some question marks over how realistic they are, but the article puts the differences between the expectation and reality down to their ruthless finishing in some tight matches (no mention of VAR) and our poor finishing and inability to close out games we dominate (which I take to be poor defending and sometimes reluctance to actually shoot).

It's not a watertight methodology, but does reflect what a lot of us have seen:

FourFoutTwo[/quote

The table after we beat Brighton to secure the Title, has 3rd place Chelsea 27 point behind us, Chelsea are 4th currently 32 points behind the scousers, this season the scousers have maintained the pace everyone else has fell apart. What the final points gap will be is down to them, for the record the SCUM are 38 points off. Whatever your club it’s worrying and a gap that will take some closing.

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:47 pm
by john@staustell
Jesus

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:17 pm
by Nigels Tackle
jesus...

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:19 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
Jesus again !!! FFS !!!

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:24 pm
by lovecity8utd
Jesus always scores away from the etihad

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:19 pm
by Nigels Tackle
bump

Re: finishing 2019/20 (summer edition)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:55 pm
by Nigels Tackle
nothing changes

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:40 pm
by Bluemoon4610
Nigels Tackle wrote:bump

2-0 up and cruising against 10 men where their keeper has touched the ball more than any of their outfield players and has made some good saves.....so why the bump? Sounds spoilt to me.

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:43 pm
by Nigels Tackle
Bluemoon4610 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:bump

2-0 up and cruising against 10 men where their keeper has touched the ball more than any of their outfield players and has made some good saves.....so why the bump? Sounds spoilt to me.


here we go... superfan alert^^^

check the times of my posts

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:15 pm
by Bluemoon4610
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Bluemoon4610 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:bump

2-0 up and cruising against 10 men where their keeper has touched the ball more than any of their outfield players and has made some good saves.....so why the bump? Sounds spoilt to me.


here we go... superfan alert^^^

check the times of my posts

So you bumped your own thread after only 4 minutes? So super-spoilt, not just spoilt...

Re: finishing 2019/20 (summer edition)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:29 pm
by sheblue
Give it a rest first game in 3 months.

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:30 pm
by bigblue
Nigels Tackle wrote:bump


booooooooooooooo

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:35 pm
by Nigels Tackle
bigblue wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:bump


booooooooooooooo


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: finishing 2019/20

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:22 pm
by Bluemoon4610
Nigels Tackle wrote:
bigblue wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:bump


booooooooooooooo


:lol: :lol: :lol:

So, not just me then? :roll: