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VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:21 pm
by PeterParker

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:27 pm
by nottsblue
They would still fuck us over somehow

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:28 pm
by PeterParker
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow


They did it with Cardiff early in the year.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:30 pm
by Beefymcfc
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:31 pm
by nottsblue
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:33 pm
by CTID Hants
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?


I can only echo both your sentiments, it's fuckin crazy isn't it!

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:41 pm
by Beefymcfc
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?

I don't think it can be incompetence or corruption when it happens neraly every game. They are just following orders from their paymasters to try and level the playing field.

Sky to the PL, PL to PiGMOL, PiGMOL to referee, it's not hard to influence a game.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:57 pm
by nottsblue
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?

I don't think it can be incompetence or corruption when it happens neraly every game. They are just following orders from their paymasters to try and level the playing field.

Sky to the PL, PL to PiGMOL, PiGMOL to referee, it's not hard to influence a game.

Has surely got to be incompetence or corruption? Assuming PiGMOL wants games officiating in a certain manner, if a referee complies with it knowing it is wrong then he has been corrupted

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:00 pm
by Beefymcfc
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?

I don't think it can be incompetence or corruption when it happens neraly every game. They are just following orders from their paymasters to try and level the playing field.

Sky to the PL, PL to PiGMOL, PiGMOL to referee, it's not hard to influence a game.

Has surely got to be incompetence or corruption? Assuming PiGMOL wants games officiating in a certain manner, if a referee complies with it knowing it is wrong then he has been corrupted

Yeah, sorry mate, was thinking you were meaning that they'd took a bung from a betting syndicate or something.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:14 pm
by nottsblue
^^^^^^^^^
That also has undoubtedly happened. But thats probably not attached to PiGMOL themselves, more of an individual thing relating to an individual eferees penchant for gambling, fucking people/animals he shouldn't have or just plain greed

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:26 pm
by South Stand Balti
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?

Spot on lads.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:49 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
No thanks. The World Cup shows it will be used selectively and they will just avoid replays if they want to screw us.

Don’t change football. See rugby league for a game that changes rules and has killed its following over here by doing so. They’re struggling to attract a crowd and most people want the amount of VAR reduced to bring back the excitement and stop the delays to the game.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:51 am
by Socrates
South Stand Balti wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?

Spot on lads.


The difference is that they can't say they didn't see it! It wouldn't eliminate errors but it would reduce them.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:07 am
by zuricity
Socrates wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
nottsblue wrote:They would still fuck us over somehow

I believe in VAR but cannot trust those who will be running it.

That is my main concern. The referees are incompetent/corrupt. Why should the people who make VAR decisions be any less so?

Spot on lads.


The difference is that they can't say they didn't see it! It wouldn't eliminate errors but it would reduce them.


VAR is another vehicle to further complicate a simple game. Even if they see it there is no guarantee it will be reviewed.

Yesterday's Wolves goal wasn't an error . The incident happened so fast , it is quite possible the linesman simply did not see the ball to hand movement, as it did look as though he had got a touch with his head.Even the fact that it was nodded on - and therefore he was also offside- the linesman could even have missed that too !

Firstly, the wolves player celebrated like he had scored a genuine header , so he knowingly cheated. secondly if the linesman did see the events he also cheated.

However, this does not mean that the VAR controller would review it.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:02 am
by Bluemoon4610
However, this does not mean that the VAR controller would review it.

Thought the whole point of VAR was that EVERY game-changing decision was checked? So every goal, penalty shout/decision, sending off etc would be looked at. Or have I read it wrong?

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:04 am
by Nigels Tackle
Bluemoon4610 wrote:However, this does not mean that the VAR controller would review it.

Thought the whole point of VAR was that EVERY game-changing decision was checked? So every goal, penalty shout/decision, sending off etc would be looked at. Or have I read it wrong?


you’ve got it spot on. zuricity isn’t one of the brightest posters on here. and that’s saying something!!

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:28 am
by zuricity
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Bluemoon4610 wrote:However, this does not mean that the VAR controller would review it.

Thought the whole point of VAR was that EVERY game-changing decision was checked? So every goal, penalty shout/decision, sending off etc would be looked at. Or have I read it wrong?


you’ve got it spot on. zuricity isn’t one of the brightest posters on here. and that’s saying something!!


You don't get it do you ? Do results get published about the results of game changing events ? Of course they don't . We get stats about possession, shots on or off target, and so on and on.No VAR stats, what was reviewed and the reasons behind the decision.

Just like referees are not subject to post game interviews. This is big business , and incompetence in referees and possibly even bias needs to be weeded out.

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:43 am
by Nigels Tackle
zuricity wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Bluemoon4610 wrote:However, this does not mean that the VAR controller would review it.

Thought the whole point of VAR was that EVERY game-changing decision was checked? So every goal, penalty shout/decision, sending off etc would be looked at. Or have I read it wrong?


you’ve got it spot on. zuricity isn’t one of the brightest posters on here. and that’s saying something!!


You don't get it do you ? Do results get published about the results of game changing events ? Of course they don't . We get stats about possession, shots on or off target, and so on and on.No VAR stats, what was reviewed and the reasons behind the decision.

Just like referees are not subject to post game interviews. This is big business , and incompetence in referees and possibly even bias needs to be weeded out.


var would be used for EVERY goal

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:48 am
by Original Dub
VAR is an absolute necessity but how it's managed is the only problem.

A lot of it was farcical last season and I have little doubt that elements of that "demonstration" were put in place to turn people off it. Or at least slow it's proper introduction down.

For those of you "less sceptic" , tell me why it took 30 odd years to introduce goal line technology ?

Re: VAR in the Premier League

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:52 am
by Nigels Tackle
Original Dub wrote:VAR is an absolute necessity but how it's managed is the only problem.

A lot of it was farcical last season and I have little doubt that elements of that "demonstration" were put in place to turn people off it. Or at least slow it's proper introduction down.

For those of you "less sceptic" , tell me why it took 30 odd years to introduce goal line technology ?


30 odd years?