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Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:35 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
BlueinBosnia wrote:Question regarding his transition - would it be worth a 2nd or 3rd place finish one season to give him more game time, to ensure that we've got a world class striker on our hands for the next decade or more?

For me it would be, and I guess Pep could sell the idea to the owners, too. As for the time being, I think he's still got at least another season behind Aguero in the pecking order.


Have you been hanging out with Dazby ?

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:36 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:@Nigels Tackle


He generally scored 1 in 2, similar to Jesus. That 27 in 42 was the season I was referring to as his breakthrough season, hitting elite levels


in a team that finished 7th in the league that year


It's besides the point anyway, I was comparing their numbers at the same age, Jesus hasn't reached the age Aguero was that season.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:56 pm
by Bluedj
The big difference to me is how the goals are generated.

Serg makes so many goals out of nothing or really acute angles

Gabriel’s are more often tap ins in the box

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:16 pm
by iwasthere2012
Bluedj wrote:The big difference to me is how the goals are generated.

Serg makes so many goals out of nothing or really acute angles

Gabriel’s are more often tap ins in the box


Yes, but Sergio will quite often choose to shoot (like on Saturday) instead of rolling it across the box for a tap in, which I'm sure drives Pep mad.
They are both very good and both very much required in the squad. Kun is looking very sharp this season and is unplayable when he hits form.

Like most are saying Jesus ha sa lot to learn but he has all the tools to make it. It's up to him.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:26 pm
by Hazy2
On as a sub, Last Min at Saints KDB PASS 50 yards Over his shoulder 1st touch to die for lift over keeper. Crowd roar 100 points. Passed the audition flying colours. Hate to bring this up but Rags Derby at home is he missing the 1v1 chances........ Which a lot of rags I know thought if we had got the third from 10 was on as they would have capitulated... Rash saved Jose that day.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:55 pm
by PeterParker
He looks like a player who goes away in big games. Decent vs mediocre or bottom teams, but absent versus the big one.
Against Scouse last year he delivered, but I have problems remembering his last goals vs a top side.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:58 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Hazy2 wrote:On as a sub, Last Min at Saints KDB PASS 50 yards Over his shoulder 1st touch to die for lift over keeper. Crowd roar 100 points. Passed the audition flying colours. Hate to bring this up but Rags Derby at home is he missing the 1v1 chances........ Which a lot of rags I know thought if we had got the third from 10 was on as they would have capitulated... Rash saved Jose that day.


Rash? Is that Rashford?

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:04 pm
by Hazy2
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:On as a sub, Last Min at Saints KDB PASS 50 yards Over his shoulder 1st touch to die for lift over keeper. Crowd roar 100 points. Passed the audition flying colours. Hate to bring this up but Rags Derby at home is he missing the 1v1 chances........ Which a lot of rags I know thought if we had got the third from 10 was on as they would have capitulated... Rash saved Jose that day.


Rash? Is that Rashford?
Our very own Rash.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:17 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Hazy2 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:On as a sub, Last Min at Saints KDB PASS 50 yards Over his shoulder 1st touch to die for lift over keeper. Crowd roar 100 points. Passed the audition flying colours. Hate to bring this up but Rags Derby at home is he missing the 1v1 chances........ Which a lot of rags I know thought if we had got the third from 10 was on as they would have capitulated... Rash saved Jose that day.


Rash? Is that Rashford?
Our very own Rash.


Oh you mean 'Raz', so our capitulation that day was all down to one player, I see.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:19 pm
by nottsblue
Nigels Tackle wrote:...to replace kun?

The short answer is no. Not if we are talking this season. There are few strikers in world football today who have Kun’s game in what he brings to a team.

The long term answer is maybe. He has a different skill set to Kun and we may see Jesus as the partner to Kun’s replacement rather than his actual replacement. His movement is already superior to Kun’s, the runs he makes off the ball into the inside forwards channels dragging defenders away from the penalty box allowing other players room. Yes, he could work on his finishing but it’s not as if it is poor. And how many chances does Kun miss? He is a young lad, a long way from home finding his feet in the team. He will only get better as time progresses. He is already Brazil’s number 9 and their top scorer in qualifying and though he didn’t have the best World Cup, their manager has faith in him.

He seems a popular lad amongst the squad which will help him as well. I for one am quite relaxed about his performances and what he brings to the party

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:18 pm
by Hazy2
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:On as a sub, Last Min at Saints KDB PASS 50 yards Over his shoulder 1st touch to die for lift over keeper. Crowd roar 100 points. Passed the audition flying colours. Hate to bring this up but Rags Derby at home is he missing the 1v1 chances........ Which a lot of rags I know thought if we had got the third from 10 was on as they would have capitulated... Rash saved Jose that day.


Rash? Is that Rashford?
Our very own Rash.


Oh you mean 'Raz', so our capitulation that day was all down to one player, I see.


Pep to be a top top team take the fucking chances ! Would the scum have anything to chase if we take sitters?

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:04 pm
by zuricity
As the Doobies sang "Jesus is alright by me".

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:17 pm
by Dubciteh
We will need another striker next summer as we start to transition to life without kun. Id of said we prob needed one this summer. He will take some replacing, no one will likely do it but jesus offers us something different so no need to compare.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:30 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
Did we change the title of the finishing thread or is he just gonna keep making new ones until we all agree?

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:47 pm
by Dunnylad
Agree with Nottsblue Jesus is a different player, so far Aguero has started the season on fire, plays the way Pep wants him to (when many of us thought he’d never adapt) and ironically its Jesus who is struggling to get majority time on the pitch - role reversal of previous seasons. However, his last minute goal at the end of last season proves his quality - got to remember he played more games over the summer although he did very little for Brazil so maybe he’s just worn out if not physically then mentally

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:47 am
by aaron bond
He’s clearly nowhere near Aguero’s level yet but Aguero is one of the best strikers to ever play in England.

At this stage I’m not sure if he can become the man to lead us up front when Aguero leaves, but I think he’s good enough to be 1 of 3 or 4 strikers for us.

We are more than likely going to have to spend big to replace Aguero.

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:23 am
by Original Dub
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Did we change the title of the finishing thread or is he just gonna keep making new ones until we all agree?


:lol:

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:54 am
by zuricity
Original Dub wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Did we change the title of the finishing thread or is he just gonna keep making new ones until we all agree?


:lol:


I did have a 'slow' titter at that too. :)

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:58 am
by Nigels Tackle
zuricity wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Did we change the title of the finishing thread or is he just gonna keep making new ones until we all agree?


:lol:


I did have a 'slow' titter at that too. :)


is that what tit’s do?

Re: is jesus good enough...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:19 am
by Elvistheblue
stevefromdonny wrote:
Elvistheblue wrote:Nowhere near good enough at the moment. Aguero can change games on his own, scoring goals from all over the place...Jesus rarely scores anything other than from inside the six yard box.....not that I can remember anyway. Don't get me wrong, he's going to be a great player, but if you want to replace Aguero, Jesus isn't the answer for me.

There are some on social media that go into meltdown when Jesus doesn't play instead of Aguero...I don't get that.



so where did he shoot from when scoring the winner against southampton


I think you get the point I'm making....and I did say rarely.