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Postby Nigels Tackle » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:16 pm

scholes... not arguing he wasn't a good player but all the bollox that he would have had 150 caps if he had been brazilian or spanish does my head in.
now, coinciding with the release of his fucking boring book, carrick is being talked about in the same way
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Postby Mase » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:22 pm

Carrick :lol: his own fans called him The Invisible Man! Mr sideways and backwards FFS!
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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby Nigels Tackle » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:26 pm

Mase wrote:Carrick :lol: his own fans called him The Invisible Man! Mr sideways and backwards FFS!


one of the best english midfielders ever now apparently. we just didn't appreciate his skills.
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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby Mase » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:54 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Mase wrote:Carrick :lol: his own fans called him The Invisible Man! Mr sideways and backwards FFS!


one of the best english midfielders ever now apparently. we just didn't appreciate his skills.


They talk some rubbish!!
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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:11 pm

Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Mase wrote:Carrick :lol: his own fans called him The Invisible Man! Mr sideways and backwards FFS!


one of the best english midfielders ever now apparently. we just didn't appreciate his skills.


They talk some rubbish!!


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Postby Blackadder » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:04 pm

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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:05 pm

Eric Cantona. A fine player and a bona fide crackpot, but Dennis Bergkamp and Michael Laudrup were better.

So was Zidane, and Rivaldo. That would make Cantona the fifth best player of his generation in his position.
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Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:29 am

My favourite Michael Carrick moment

Watch on youtube.com
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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:11 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:My favourite Michael Carrick moment

Watch on youtube.com


he was brilliant though
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Postby Sideshow Bob » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:04 pm

the entire class of '92. also dzeko.
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Postby sheblue » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Stan Collymore.
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Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:28 pm

I too got much better when I hung up my five-a-side boots, it's more effective than any coaching.
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Postby Green & Blue » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:33 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:Eric Cantona. A fine player and a bona fide crackpot, but Dennis Bergkamp and Michael Laudrup were better.

So was Zidane, and Rivaldo. That would make Cantona the fifth best player of his generation in his position.


A great player on his day but his talents have been totally blown out of proportion. I think his “attitude” aka him being an oddball had a lot to do with it. Many players far greater don’t get half the acknowledgement he does. Le Tissier, Zola spring to mind straight away.

As for Carrick if I was being kind I’d describe him as a reliable player.
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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby iwasthere2012 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:37 pm

Green & Blue wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:Eric Cantona. A fine player and a bona fide crackpot, but Dennis Bergkamp and Michael Laudrup were better.

So was Zidane, and Rivaldo. That would make Cantona the fifth best player of his generation in his position.


A great player on his day but his talents have been totally blown out of proportion. I think his “attitude” aka him being an oddball had a lot to do with it. Many players far greater don’t get half the acknowledgement he does. Le Tissier, Zola spring to mind straight away.

As for Carrick if I was being kind I’d describe him as a reliable player.

Zola was a joy to watch, similar to our Dave.
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Postby iwasthere2012 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:39 pm

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I too got much better when I hung up my five-a-side boots, it's more effective than any coaching.

Same here. I was brilliant, whereas 5 years ago I was pretty good, and ten years ago I wasn’t bad at all.

It’s like the memory of me is maturing with age like a good whiskey.
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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby mr_nool » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:scholes... not arguing he wasn't a good player but all the bollox that he would have had 150 caps if he had been brazilian or spanish does my head in.
now, coinciding with the release of his fucking boring book, carrick is being talked about in the same way


I'd take Barry over Carrick every day of the week.
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Re: players who become better once they've retired

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:36 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:scholes... not arguing he wasn't a good player but all the bollox that he would have had 150 caps if he had been brazilian or spanish does my head in.
now, coinciding with the release of his fucking boring book, carrick is being talked about in the same way


I'd take Barry over Carrick every day of the week.


Agree, always felt Barry was seriously underrated.
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