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Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:36 pm
by budfox
Right, here's what is now really bugging me.

The standard required for the VAR official to alert the referee is "a clear and obvious error". Can that be said of the linesman's decision not to flag offside? Of course not. He may have been wrong to the tune of six inches, but it most certainly wasn't clear and obvious that he'd made an error.

What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.

Does anyone imagine for one moment that Barca would have had an identical goal reviewed and disallowed? No chance, the VAR official wouldn't have even looked at a replay.

Yes, we let three goals in, yes I'm seething, but I think we've been cheated tonight.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:37 pm
by PeterParker
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I can see VAR being used more than any other match in the short history of VAR.

You heard it here first.


What did you do, Carl? What did you do? :roll:

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:40 pm
by PeterParker
budfox wrote:What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.


Wait a minute, from my knowledge, we were informed many times: VAR cannot intervine without the ref asking for it. Did the turkish bastard asked for that?

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:42 pm
by Beefymcfc
PeterParker wrote:
budfox wrote:What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.


Wait a minute, from my knowledge, we were informed many times: VAR cannot intervine without the ref asking for it. Did the turkish bastard asked for that?

No. The reason VAR has taken so long to bring in is because they had to work out how to manipulate it.

Nothing changes, just a little more cynical.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:43 pm
by PeterParker
Beefymcfc wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
budfox wrote:What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.


Wait a minute, from my knowledge, we were informed many times: VAR cannot intervine without the ref asking for it. Did the turkish bastard asked for that?

No.


Lol. Then there you have it.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:44 pm
by lovecity8utd
Beefymcfc wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
budfox wrote:What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.


Wait a minute, from my knowledge, we were informed many times: VAR cannot intervine without the ref asking for it. Did the turkish bastard asked for that?

No.


Quelle surprise

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:55 pm
by Beefymcfc
lovecity8utd wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
budfox wrote:What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.


Wait a minute, from my knowledge, we were informed many times: VAR cannot intervine without the ref asking for it. Did the turkish bastard asked for that?

No.


Quelle surprise

But Gill did ;-)

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:57 pm
by lovecity8utd
Beefymcfc wrote:
lovecity8utd wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
budfox wrote:What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.


Wait a minute, from my knowledge, we were informed many times: VAR cannot intervine without the ref asking for it. Did the turkish bastard asked for that?

No.


Quelle surprise

But Gill did ;-)


Quelle surprise

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:06 pm
by budfox
Well the referee can request a review, but I don't believe he did. The linesman didn't flag and as far as I'm aware the ref awarded the goal. Therefore the VAR official must have alerted the referee having viewed the replay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_assistant_referee

Note: "If the VAR believes there has been a potential clear error, the referee will be contacted with that judgment".

Absolutely no way did the linesman make a "clear and obvious error". An error, yes, based on the one TV frame lasting 1/25th second when Serge was six inches offside, but if does that really qualify as "clear and obvious"? Maybe it does, but my issue with VAR is that an official took the decision to review that goal, but under different circumstances with different teams involved they could easily have chosen not to.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:06 pm
by iwasthere2012
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
lovecity8utd wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Gutted !


Your man DS played a blinder....especially that corner he took.



Boring twat. Fuck off and follow another team.


I piss Blue blood....so that's going to be impossible, fuck face.

I’d get that seen, if I was you.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:07 pm
by City64
budfox wrote:Right, here's what is now really bugging me.

The standard required for the VAR official to alert the referee is "a clear and obvious error". Can that be said of the linesman's decision not to flag offside? Of course not. He may have been wrong to the tune of six inches, but it most certainly wasn't clear and obvious that he'd made an error.

What has happened here, and it is why VAR is a licence to cheat, is that the VAR official has alerted the referee to something that was not in a million years the type of error the system is for.

Does anyone imagine for one moment that Barca would have had an identical goal reviewed and disallowed? No chance, t
he VAR official wouldn't have even looked at a replay.

Yes, we let three goals in, yes I'm seething, but I think we've been cheated tonight.


https://twitter.com/Atishay_Agarwal/sta ... 7424227329
Clear handball , this VAR angle wasn't shown to the ref pitch side

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:17 pm
by blues2win
Mark Halsey says it was a clear handball and shouldn’t have been given.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:19 pm
by Nick
Still.fuming

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:27 pm
by Dimples
For me it is simple.
Pretend we are the Rags or the Dippers playing at home. Would the same decisions have been taken? Never ever ever.....

Last year we were mugged twice i.e. home and away against the Dippers.
This year we have been mugged again.

Sure we messed up in the first leg but that is the issue. We have to be perfect to have any chance.

I hate the CL more and more each year but that means I want to win it more badly with each passing year.
Revenge is a dish best served cold - our day will come.

I am absolutely steaming......again-----same as last year.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:58 am
by Saul Goodman
Incredible match of football. Hopefully there's enough gas left in the tank for Saturday.

Quadruple is stupid anyways.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:49 am
by Hazy2
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Gutted !


Your man DS played a blinder....especially that corner he took.


Have a day off.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:56 am
by Dubaimancityfan
The funny (or sad) thing about this is that last season we lost at this stage because there was no VAR. This season we lost because of VAR ! With no VAR both the spuds goal and our goal would have been granted and we would be through!!

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:01 am
by s1ty m

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:53 am
by Mase
The Champions League is a pathetic competition. It's called the "Champions League" and Spurs are playing in it FFS. The most corrupt competition in the world. We've been cheated again, lets move on.

Hopefully the players use this cheating to fuel them on Saturday.

Re: ***city v spurs cl 1/4 qf 2nd leg official match thread*

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:04 am
by Hazy2
Mase wrote:The Champions League is a pathetic competition. It's called the "Champions League" and Spurs are playing in it FFS. The most corrupt competition in the world. We've been cheated again, lets move on.

Hopefully the players use this cheating to fuel them on Saturday.


We gave everything IMHO. Gutted TBH