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defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:37 pm
by Nigels Tackle
league one teams are better

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:57 pm
by sheblue
The loss of Laporte and vinny is a massive blow. We really need to fucking manage this season properly, something tells me that a stubborn attitude will get in the way of that.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:57 am
by Piccsnumberoneblue
We may as well have played an otter at centre half rather than The Otter. Never been convinced by the soft cunt.
Actually maybe we should have just played another attacker rather than him

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:54 am
by Pretty Boy Lee
That’s the worst game I’ve seen other play but with 85% possession our creation of chances at the other end wasn’t much better. What game plan decided to play aguero on his own and swing in a million crosses instead of playing through?

Yes I know he scored off one, but we normally play more intricate and create waaaayyyy more.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:05 pm
by s1ty m
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:That’s the worst game I’ve seen other play but with 85% possession our creation of chances at the other end wasn’t much better. What game plan decided to play aguero on his own and swing in a million crosses instead of playing through?

Yes I know he scored off one, but we normally play more intricate and create waaaayyyy more.


The constant crossing was absurd.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:18 pm
by nottsblue
Defending 19/20 needs much more focus in training, especially with Laporte out. We have conceded 16 goals out of 29 since the start of last season from set pieces. Simply not acceptable

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:39 pm
by Hazy2
I think Stones has to get his head in the game. A shout to Otter on Saturday, he deals with it. I was at West Ham and his verbals to Pep may have gone under the radar, I think he was dropped not injured after that game! For me he is not on it enough he needs to step the fuck up. Looks out of sorts dare I suggest not focused on being a top player that he can be. I also get we have days like Saturday so I am moving on, but looking back if Stones screams at Otter mistake avoided.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:34 pm
by ayrshireblue
Marking the near post at corners shouldn't be too difficult either. Rodri is 6' 3" so cover the near post like Drogba did for Chelsea. Anything coming into that area get out and get a head on it. Easy.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:06 pm
by City64
Very scary stat doing the rounds on social media is that Ottamendi and Stones have played together 25 times under Pep and conceded 28 goals . Any CB partnership with Laporte and the goals conceded is virtually half that .............

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:26 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
City64 wrote:Very scary stat doing the rounds on social media is that Ottamendi and Stones have played together 25 times under Pep and conceded 28 goals . Any CB partnership with Laporte and the goals conceded is virtually half that .............


I saw similar stats that show a high % of our losses under pep have otter and gundo both starting. Considering each have not exactly been ever presents it was surprising.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:45 am
by Mase
How far does that stat go back? As when we hit the 100 Otter was in the team of the year.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:27 am
by Hazy2
When is Cancelo going to start.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:42 am
by mr_nool
Hazy2 wrote:When is Cancelo going to start.


Tomorrow, I reckon.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:46 am
by Mase
mr_nool wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:When is Cancelo going to start.


Tomorrow, I reckon.


I wouldn't be surprised is he's been bought with the CL in mind. Walker's bottle seems to go on the big stage.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:54 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Mase wrote:How far does that stat go back? As when we hit the 100 Otter was in the team of the year.


It goes back to 16/17 when Bravo was in nets and we had fullbacks who's legs had gone.

It's skewed, their last 18 together since the beginning of 17/18 has seen 14 wins, 3 draws and a defeat.

They are our weakest pairing but that analysis is hyperbole.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:11 am
by Dubciteh
Also im not blaming Rodri but Fern offers us a better defensive shield. If we need to protect stones and otter then we need to play fern

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:14 am
by sheblue
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:How far does that stat go back? As when we hit the 100 Otter was in the team of the year.


It goes back to 16/17 when Bravo was in nets and we had fullbacks who's legs had gone.

It's skewed, their last 18 together since the beginning of 17/18 has seen 14 wins, 3 draws and a defeat.

They are our weakest pairing but that analysis is hyperbole.


Was going to make that point. Fake news!!

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:47 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:How far does that stat go back? As when we hit the 100 Otter was in the team of the year.


It goes back to 16/17 when Bravo was in nets and we had fullbacks who's legs had gone.

It's skewed, their last 18 together since the beginning of 17/18 has seen 14 wins, 3 draws and a defeat.

They are our weakest pairing but that analysis is hyperbole.


Sorry that should read 13 wins, 3 draws and 2 defeats. The other defeat being the 4-3 against Liverpool.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:12 pm
by Saul Goodman
City64 wrote:Very scary stat doing the rounds on social media is that Ottamendi and Stones have played together 25 times under Pep and conceded 28 goals . Any CB partnership with Laporte and the goals conceded is virtually half that .............

But remember, you said losing him wasn't a big deal. So, not to worry.

Re: defending 2019/20

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:57 pm
by Scatman
Saul Goodman wrote:
City64 wrote:Very scary stat doing the rounds on social media is that Ottamendi and Stones have played together 25 times under Pep and conceded 28 goals . Any CB partnership with Laporte and the goals conceded is virtually half that .............

But remember, you said losing him wasn't a big deal. So, not to worry.


And now Stones is out for a month so we won't find out just how bad the partnership is for a while.

Time to turn Fern into a CB I reckon. He'll be better than the lot of them.