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Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:07 pm
by PrezIke
Some of usl want to keep finding scape goats but no one wants to talk about this man.

1 or maybe 2 good performances in almost 1 year.

Sterling has done so much more for us for longer, and carries this team far too often, but gets blamed.

I am a massive supporter of his, but why is he not being singled out in the same way then?

Btw, I think things can change, and the real point is singling 1 or 2 players for our problems I find to be short sided.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:09 pm
by PeterParker
When Baldie will actually play Bernie in his normal position we can judge him.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:24 pm
by Saul Goodman
PeterParker wrote:When Baldie will actually play Bernie in his normal position we can judge him.

On the right wing instead of centrally? I agree.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:28 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
PrezIke wrote:Some of usl want to keep finding scape goats but no one wants to talk about this man.

1 or maybe 2 good performances in almost 1 year.

Sterling has done so much more for us for longer, and carries this team far too often, but gets blamed.

I am a massive supporter of his, but why is he not being singled out in the same way then?

Btw, I think things can change, and the real point is singling 1 or 2 players for our problems I find to be short sided.


Pep's (and yours) undroppable player Gundo was shit .....yet again.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:17 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
He had a poor game last night, but he was against a bank of 4 with 5 behind and expected to be our sole creative midfielder since Gundo and Rodri don’t move us at all. On top of that he was aiming for 3 static players up top.

Get him next to Kev with only one holding player for a few games then let’s revisit this topic for me.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:39 pm
by CTID Hants
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:He had a poor game last night, but he was against a bank of 4 with 5 behind and expected to be our sole creative midfielder since Gundo and Rodri don’t move us at all. On top of that he was aiming for 3 static players up top.

Get him next to Kev with only one holding player for a few games then let’s revisit this topic for me.


Possibly the most sensible post of the day, possibly the week.

In other news, Mahrez has been quoted by French press......

"Paris is my City, I'm under contract to Manchester City but if PSG knocked at the door I wouldn't close it" (or words to that effect)

Who wants to start the gofundme page to cover his taxi and air fair???

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:45 pm
by zabbadabbado
Poor Bernado has no idea what he is supposed to be doing in Einstiens system.

His form has nose dived because of Pep obsession with playing inverted wingers,and playing players out of postion in it

Why the fuck does he keep signning players we assume to play in their natural postion..Then point blank reuse to play them there with us.

Sterling another example. Week ater week same old,same old.

14 shots and 1 target.

18 months of rinse and repeat,And it is getting worse.

He is not learnning.And that is worrying.

Trying to get him to give Foden an extended run in his natural postion,would be easier getting teeth extracted.

Pep thinks i can not do that,one my Favourites will lose a place.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:09 pm
by Green & Blue
CTID Hants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:He had a poor game last night, but he was against a bank of 4 with 5 behind and expected to be our sole creative midfielder since Gundo and Rodri don’t move us at all. On top of that he was aiming for 3 static players up top.

Get him next to Kev with only one holding player for a few games then let’s revisit this topic for me.


Possibly the most sensible post of the day, possibly the week.

In other news, Mahrez has been quoted by French press......

"Paris is my City, I'm under contract to Manchester City but if PSG knocked at the door I wouldn't close it" (or words to that effect)

Who wants to start the gofundme page to cover his taxi and air fair???


That’d be great if we could see the back of him

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:20 pm
by Simister
He's been quick to deny it though.
Said it was a fake twitter account.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:43 pm
by PrezIke
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
PrezIke wrote:Some of usl want to keep finding scape goats but no one wants to talk about this man.

1 or maybe 2 good performances in almost 1 year.

Sterling has done so much more for us for longer, and carries this team far too often, but gets blamed.

I am a massive supporter of his, but why is he not being singled out in the same way then?

Btw, I think things can change, and the real point is singling 1 or 2 players for our problems I find to be short sided.


Pep's (and yours) undroppable player Gundo was shit .....yet again.


lol. Mate i have defended Gundo. You are correct, yet it was not that he was without flaws, but that he has qualities as well. Surrounded by others who can cover for his weaknesses then he can have his value. His assist ability has dropped significantly and lest we not forget he had some serious injuries.

That brings me to Sane. Who also tore his ACL. That's the same injury that Gundo, Mendy, and now VVD have experienced. Players who rely less on pace, from what I have seen, can still be similar as Gundo has, but even he is not the same player he was before the injuries.

Leroy may show some quality but let's see. Meanwhile Sterling was playing brilliantly for us for a long while, and his finishing was being credited as improved, yet some want to say it has not.

To me sports fans love to find scape goats when things go wrong. It's natural, but also we have to check our emotions.

I react strong to defend criticisms of players, but do not mistake that for not criticising them either.

Sterling can problematic as well. Don't get me wrong. I see it, yet what is going on is also we have no striker fit to play,.

I watch YouTube videos with CityXtra whinging on about Delap not playing.

No one I read who says this ever seems to take into account the hierarchy of a team made up of "nice guys" but still with massive egos.

Managers have to MANAGE that. It isn't fantasy football like fans want it to be. These are real people with emotions that can impact the entire squad.

You drop Mahrez, who may be a bit tempramental, or whoever else has been as key players during title winning seasons, and think of themselves as great, and aren't exactly shite and then drop them so easily. See what happens. Where is any players' faith that the manager will back them when they are struggling? They may decide to not stay and that causes other problems in the changing room.

I NEVER HEAR ANYONE WHO WHINGES ON ABOUT PLAYER PERFORMANCES AND MANAGERS EVER MENTION THIS REALITY.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:28 am
by salford city
CTID Hants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:He had a poor game last night, but he was against a bank of 4 with 5 behind and expected to be our sole creative midfielder since Gundo and Rodri don’t move us at all. On top of that he was aiming for 3 static players up top.

Get him next to Kev with only one holding player for a few games then let’s revisit this topic for me.


Possibly the most sensible post of the day, possibly the week.

In other news, Mahrez has been quoted by French press......

"Paris is my City, I'm under contract to Manchester City but if PSG knocked at the door I wouldn't close it" (or words to that effect)

Who wants to start the gofundme page to cover his taxi and air fair???


I would sell Mahrez tomorrow - today if we got a decent bid. Dont know why we signed him proper shit house of a player never liked him since he came to us

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:23 am
by RodneyRodney
salford city wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:He had a poor game last night, but he was against a bank of 4 with 5 behind and expected to be our sole creative midfielder since Gundo and Rodri don’t move us at all. On top of that he was aiming for 3 static players up top.

Get him next to Kev with only one holding player for a few games then let’s revisit this topic for me.


Possibly the most sensible post of the day, possibly the week.

In other news, Mahrez has been quoted by French press......

"Paris is my City, I'm under contract to Manchester City but if PSG knocked at the door I wouldn't close it" (or words to that effect)

Who wants to start the gofundme page to cover his taxi and air fair???


I would sell Mahrez tomorrow - today if we got a decent bid. Dont know why we signed him proper shit house of a player never liked him since he came to us

Package him with Rodri in a 2-for-1 deal

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:47 pm
by s1ty m
CTID Hants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:He had a poor game last night, but he was against a bank of 4 with 5 behind and expected to be our sole creative midfielder since Gundo and Rodri don’t move us at all. On top of that he was aiming for 3 static players up top.

Get him next to Kev with only one holding player for a few games then let’s revisit this topic for me.


Possibly the most sensible post of the day, possibly the week.

In other news, Mahrez has been quoted by French press......

"Paris is my City, I'm under contract to Manchester City but if PSG knocked at the door I wouldn't close it" (or words to that effect)

Who wants to start the gofundme page to cover his taxi and air fair???


I'm in. He is utter trash. Great at passing it backwards though.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:22 pm
by Mase
Love how this post started with “Why are people singling players out” and then “What about Bernardo he’s been wank”

Hahaha class

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:58 pm
by Hazy2
Mase wrote:Love how this post started with “Why are people singling players out” and then “What about Bernardo he’s been wank”

Hahaha class


He is our Lingard.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:19 pm
by Outcast
Geeeeeez, some fellas will never learn.

The issue isn't the players, you can single out various players, there are one or two that are utter shite whatever position you'll play them, they're still shite and need moving on.

The problem is Pep, formations, tactics, stubborness, motivation, commitment.

I've been saying it for a long time, the main issue isn't the players, referee's or VAR, we can go in circles and just keep kidding ourselves.

The only way we can move forward, Pep changes, commits himself for long haul, adapts new ideas and that's not over tinkering. Otherwise it's time to move on, new coach, new ideas then we can genuinely assess all the players

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:27 pm
by sheblue
Outcast wrote:Geeeeeez, some fellas will never learn.

The issue isn't the players, you can single out various players, there are one or two that are utter shite whatever position you'll play them, they're still shite and need moving on.

The problem is Pep, formations, tactics, stubborness, motivation, commitment.

I've been saying it for a long time, the main issue isn't the players, referee's or VAR, we can go in circles and just keep kidding ourselves.

The only way we can move forward, Pep changes, commits himself for long haul, adapts new ideas and that's not over tinkering. Otherwise it's time to move on, new coach, new ideas then we can genuinely assess all the players


Agree. We have good players.
I have a very simple view on football.
Good players need a good manager and a good manager needs good players. Two sides to it and both sides must be at it 100%.
At the moment, our manager is not performing well enough and is letting the players down.
If he cant sort it it's time for a change.
And I dont want him gone I just want him to do his job properly, but it's not looking good.

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:58 pm
by dick dastardley
We've fucked up not getting another striker

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:59 pm
by PrezIke
Mase wrote:Love how this post started with “Why are people singling players out” and then “What about Bernardo he’s been wank”

Hahaha class


;)

I hear you but a large part of the point was whoever you are more biased against is who gets singled out.

I'm not saying it's all his fault of course, but he has arguably been a far worse contributor for a longer period than Sterling, yet there's radio silence from a lot of fans.

I'm saying some want to point fingers, which I think can be misguided, but if we use that logic why is he not being given the same hairdryer treatment?

BIAS

Re: Bernardo & singling players out

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:02 pm
by PrezIke
And those saying Bernardo should be played in his position to defend him argument...

ummm...

How about Sterling as well??

All of these arguments are flawed and some of us don't want to admit anything ever or acknowledge being wrong or anything other than yell at everyone and blame anyone who disagrees as a blind fool.