Analysis of Where we are!

[CBBT]

Yes based on what I am reading, to were we were 20 years ago to what has happened in the last ten . What has anyone to complain about!! Yes, yesterday was disappointing and as many have said the quad was ramped up by the media as usual . Then get the masses to believe it’s impossible and when it fails as yesterday then kick the team club manager in the teeth , it’s about the only thing the media does well!! To do it I think you need 25 world class players , at the peak of their career , injury free and super fit!!

Look playing a game every 3-4 days at the top level for nearly 6 months is just incredible when you see where we were at the start of the season . Our worst start in many years. But the manager got the team together changed his tactics and suddenly were in for a quadruple. Yes you should play your best team at all times. But this is a new world where tv pays and tv expects. Therefore you must have a squad and keep that squad happy ! My only criticism of Pep Guadiola is to many changes in one go !!Other than that he is still the best in the world without a doubt. In the cup having the no 2 Goalie play is not an issue it’s a must!!
Players:- this is my take !!
Best Team:
Ederson Walker Stones Dias Cancelo KDB Rodri Gundo Mahrez Aguero Foden

SUBS: Stefan, Zinchenko, Ake, Laporte, Silva, Jesus, Torres.

Time to sell:
Sterling, Mendy **,Dino, Sandler, Angelino
Sterling lost interest?
Mendy had never recovered from two horrific knee injuries!
Dino unbelievable but age has caught up
Last two not good enough for EPL!

Bring thru:
Garcia ? Who knows!
Doyle, Palmer, Delap, Harwood-Bellis, Braaf

What we must have is an out and out proven goal machine , as having 99.9% of possession means nothing if you can’t score!!

[Mase]

Yes, we should definitely compare everything to 20 years ago. Why not go even further back and compare the team to when we actually won the Cup Winners Cup? How far back should we go?

Just because we were crap 20 years ago it doesn’t mean we can let off a manager for making 8 changes for a cup semi.

[Sparklehorse]

Yes based on what I am reading, to were we were 20 years ago to what has happened in the last ten . What has anyone to complain about!! Yes, yesterday was disappointing and as many have said the quad was ramped up by the media as usual . Then get the masses to believe it’s impossible and when it fails as yesterday then kick the team club manager in the teeth , it’s about the only thing the media does well!! To do it I think you need 25 world class players , at the peak of their career , injury free and super fit!!

Look playing a game every 3-4 days at the top level for nearly 6 months is just incredible when you see where we were at the start of the season . Our worst start in many years. But the manager got the team together changed his tactics and suddenly were in for a quadruple. Yes you should play your best team at all times. But this is a new world where tv pays and tv expects. Therefore you must have a squad and keep that squad happy ! My only criticism of Pep Guadiola is to many changes in one go !!Other than that he is still the best in the world without a doubt. In the cup having the no 2 Goalie play is not an issue it’s a must!!
Players:- this is my take !!
Best Team:
Ederson Walker Stones Dias Cancelo KDB Rodri Gundo Mahrez Aguero Foden

SUBS: Stefan, Zinchenko, Ake, Laporte, Silva, Jesus, Torres.

Time to sell:
Sterling, Mendy **,Dino, Sandler, Angelino
Sterling lost interest?
Mendy had never recovered from two horrific knee injuries!
Dino unbelievable but age has caught up
Last two not good enough for EPL!

Bring thru:
Garcia ? Who knows!
Doyle, Palmer, Delap, Harwood-Bellis, Braaf

What we must have is an out and out proven goal machine , as having 99.9% of possession means nothing if you can’t score!!

I agree with most of this I would just swap Cancelo with Zinch in the best team. I think he’s much more solid, he made a couple of early errors against Dortmund but got over it and played really well thereafter.

[john68]

Excellent post CBBT,

It's all about expectations, expectations, expectations. The media have no shades of grey, it's either all white or all black. They sell dreams, almost unatainable possibilities, then revel in the unattained as disasters when not met. I stopped reading or listening to the media ages ago, trusted my own judgement not the over hyped shite in the agenda ridden media.

CBBT is right. When our owners took over, we were in a mess.We were sold a dream by the club and what we, 'Likkle Citeh' have acheived is probably far better than we believed possible.

Again CBBT is right, our players are human, they are not robots and will make mistakes, Pep is human and he too will make mistakes or take risks that often succeed and sometimes fail.

Our sports science dept tells Pep and his staff the energy levels of each player, how many games they can play before their standards will drop and they will suffer from a decrease in form. When a player should play and when he shouldn't and it is based on scientific information that Pep decides who is picked and who is left out.
Those gambles and risks are easier to manage in the earlier part of the season and get harder and harder as our season gets to the sharp end. We are no longer playing an assortment of top and bottom sides that give wiggle room for platers to rest and recuperate. We are now more so, up against a far higher class of team week on week. Teams that have qualified to later stages of comps, teams like Chelsea, Dortmund, Spurs, PSG, with the promise of Bayern or Chelsea to come if we are successful.

The money grabbing twats who control football have only one agenda....making money and maxiising profit. More comps = more and more games. More City success = more comps and more games for payers...and more fukking £millions for FiFA, UeFA, the FA, the Premier Lge, the written and TV media and club owners.....none of whom give a flying fuck about the health or safety of the players. "There's always another player in the resevoir to drag in when one collapses."

We too have to take our share of blame. We love football, we love City and we would be more than happy to have City playing day after day to fulfill our City appetite. We can't wait for the next game and I'm as guilty as the next football supporter. We too are greedy to fill our football emotional needs. We demand success (more games) and rail and rant when things go tits up.

FFP is also to blame, it stops clubs buying players that could strengthen squads, so puts the limmited squads like ours under pressure to play when unfit and we see players unable to play a full season before breaking down. Maybe Aguerooooo and KDB are examples of that.

Just a few thoughts on the back of recent results and perceived City failures against Leeds and Chelsea.







Pep and other coaches have warned that the football institutions are killing players. more players are breaking down and becoming injured.

[Harry Dowd scored]

It is difficult to disagree with the OP, however all this we should be grateful because we used to be shit twenty years ago, does not take into account one of the main factors of football supporters and that is Passion for the club. It is little comfort whilst watching yesterday’s clusterfuck( and, similar the week before) to think well this is shit but hey we were fucking shit before so let’s be grateful.
I used to work in Texas a long time ago, they had a saying for that kind of attitude it was called “Stinking thinking” it means having a negative attitude produces negative outcomes, so accepting the unacceptable because we used to be bad is not good thinking at all. It allows poor standards, like yesterday to flourish and pretty soon you can be back where you started, that is, being shit again.
So accepting the odd slip up is one thing, tolerating the unacceptable fuck up is another.

[Mase]

It is difficult to disagree with the OP, however all this we should be grateful because we used to be shit twenty years ago, does not take into account one of the main factors of football supporters and that is Passion for the club. It is little comfort whilst watching yesterday’s clusterfuck( and, similar the week before) to think well this is shit but hey we were fucking shit before so let’s be grateful.
I used to work in Texas a long time ago, they had a saying for that kind of attitude it was called “Stinking thinking” it means having a negative attitude produces negative outcomes, so accepting the unacceptable because we used to be bad is not good thinking at all. It allows poor standards, like yesterday to flourish and pretty soon you can be back where you started, that is, being shit again.
So accepting the odd slip up is one thing, tolerating the unacceptable fuck up is another.

And also, our current owners didn’t own us 20 years ago. I doubt they care we were shit 20 years ago. They’re paying people within the club very well to be the best now.

Imagine the Chairman doing his interview at the end of the season - “Yeah I spoke to the Sheik and he said because we were shite 20 years ago he’s just happy with surviving relegation.”

[Nigels Tackle]

the i’m a better fan than you brigade our out in force today i see...

[branny]

Excellent post CBBT,

It's all about expectations, expectations, expectations. The media have no shades of grey, it's either all white or all black. They sell dreams, almost unatainable possibilities, then revel in the unattained as disasters when not met. I stopped reading or listening to the media ages ago, trusted my own judgement not the over hyped shite in the agenda ridden media.

CBBT is right. When our owners took over, we were in a mess.We were sold a dream by the club and what we, 'Likkle Citeh' have acheived is probably far better than we believed possible.

Again CBBT is right, our players are human, they are not robots and will make mistakes, Pep is human and he too will make mistakes or take risks that often succeed and sometimes fail.

Our sports science dept tells Pep and his staff the energy levels of each player, how many games they can play before their standards will drop and they will suffer from a decrease in form. When a player should play and when he shouldn't and it is based on scientific information that Pep decides who is picked and who is left out.
Those gambles and risks are easier to manage in the earlier part of the season and get harder and harder as our season gets to the sharp end. We are no longer playing an assortment of top and bottom sides that give wiggle room for platers to rest and recuperate. We are now more so, up against a far higher class of team week on week. Teams that have qualified to later stages of comps, teams like Chelsea, Dortmund, Spurs, PSG, with the promise of Bayern or Chelsea to come if we are successful.

The money grabbing twats who control football have only one agenda....making money and maxiising profit. More comps = more and more games. More City success = more comps and more games for payers...and more fukking £millions for FiFA, UeFA, the FA, the Premier Lge, the written and TV media and club owners.....none of whom give a flying fuck about the health or safety of the players. "There's always another player in the resevoir to drag in when one collapses."

We too have to take our share of blame. We love football, we love City and we would be more than happy to have City playing day after day to fulfill our City appetite. We can't wait for the next game and I'm as guilty as the next football supporter. We too are greedy to fill our football emotional needs. We demand success (more games) and rail and rant when things go tits up.

FFP is also to blame, it stops clubs buying players that could strengthen squads, so puts the limmited squads like ours under pressure to play when unfit and we see players unable to play a full season before breaking down. Maybe Aguerooooo and KDB are examples of that.

Just a few thoughts on the back of recent results and perceived City failures against Leeds and Chelsea.







Pep and other coaches have warned that the football institutions are killing players. more players are breaking down and becoming injured.

I'd love to hear the sports science departments analysis of Sterling and Mendy. I'm all for rotation but certain games (a derby against the team in 2nd on the back of a 5 day rest and an FA Cup semi final against a much improved top 4 side) command starting your best 11 and I'm pretty sure that would have been the case for any team 20 years ago.

[carl_feedthegoat]

When Baldie fucks up it needs highlighting and not brushed under the fucking carpet and to harp on about the 'bad old days' is not going to get you any fuckign sympathy when our 20 million pounds a year manager fucks us over with his shit head team line ups....we lost yesterday before a ball was even kicked.

Yesterdays team was not even a fuckign surprise as Baldie has done this many many times before..he never learns - he has shown himself to be inept again..yes inept.....you get that awarded to you when you put in players who are just plane and utter shit.

Sterling
Mendy
Headless chicken

Shit all season and in Mendys case...just a permanent shit on legs .

8 fuckign changes for a FA cup semi final and we have fans on here trying to justify Baldies fuckign brain farts ffs !!!

[Harry Dowd scored]

When Baldie fucks up it needs highlighting and not brushed under the fucking carpet and to harp on about the 'bad old days' is not going to get you any fuckign sympathy when our 20 million pounds a year manager fucks us over with his shit head team line ups....we lost yesterday before a ball was even kicked.

Yesterdays team was not even a fuckign surprise as Baldie has done this many many times before..he never learns - he has shown himself to be inept again..yes inept.....you get that awarded to you when you put in players who are just plane and utter shit.

Sterling
Mendy
Headless chicken

Shit all season and in Mendys case...just a permanent shit on legs .

8 fuckign changes for a FA cup semi final and we have fans on here trying to justify Baldies fuckign brain farts ffs !!!

10000% this

[nottsblue]

10 possible games left

32 played in the PL and 8 clear if we assume the rags beat Burnley today

We are in the final of the League Cup next week

We are in semi finals of the CL in a very winnable tie v PSG

We will win the PL.
Depending on various factors we are hot favourites to win the League Cup again
We are favourites to progress v PSG over the two legs.

Of course in a cup tie anything can happen but if we play to the best of our ability that will likely be sufficient to be successful.

Regardless of where the club was 20 or 10 or even 5 years ago, to be in the position we are in right now at the business end of the season is still a great achievement. And if we end up with the PL only it will hardly be a disaster

[Harry Dowd scored]

Rags win again I am saying now that Villa game is massive lose that and there will be a media feeding frenzy, like vultures circling a corpse expect some weird ref decisions, with all this talk of a super league it would be wonderful to have a close title race, don’t rule it out, if Pep continues to fuck up, the bus driver could drive the rags to a title that would be beyond all rag dreams
In addition to above, I didn’t see any rag tiredness in the Burnley game, indeed the commentary mentioned Penandes playing his 50th game this season, bet Foden hasn’t reached anywhere near that and he is always dropped every other game, I really hope I am wrong, but am losing confidence in Peps management at the moment, we have lost two out of thre through poor management now, let’s not fuck up against Villa.

[patrickblue]

the i’m a better fan than you brigade our out in force today i see...

Aren't they always.

[PeterParker]

Rags win again I am saying now that Villa game is massive lose that and there will be a media feeding frenzy, like vultures circling a corpse expect some weird ref decisions, with all this talk of a super league it would be wonderful to have a close title race, don’t rule it out, if Pep continues to fuck up, the bus driver could drive the rags to a title that would be beyond all rag dreams

There is an old romanian saying: don't let your past kill you.

I think we need to stop on taking everything like we don't deserve it. We had our fucking share of drama, horror and laughs, but we fought with everything we had and when finally there was balance in the cash department, we became a fucking Ferrari while others lost their wheels on the road.

For us everything is and must be about progress and taking the next step, both as club & fans when it comes to mentality. Old City is dead. Aguero killed it in the 93rd minute.

[patrickblue]

I'm quite an old fucker now, but I don't remember being knackered for three days after playing a game of football in my youth.
All this resting players is bollox, by all means play your poorer players against poorer opposition, but not in a cup semi against a top 4 side FFS.

[Harry Dowd scored]

I'm quite an old fucker now, but I don't remember being knackered for three days after playing a game of football in my youth.
All this resting players is bollox, by all means play your poorer players against poorer opposition, but not in a cup semi against a top 4 side FFS.

Agreed, I think this tiredness thing is a self fulfilling prophecy, that is, say you will be tired and you will be

[carl_feedthegoat]

I'm quite an old fucker now, but I don't remember being knackered for three days after playing a game of football in my youth.
All this resting players is bollox, by all means play your poorer players against poorer opposition, but not in a cup semi against a top 4 side FFS.

Baldie has played Rodri in most games this season so hes full of shit when he says 'we are killing the players' hoping that we are going to fall into that narrative of his.

I'm still fuckign fuming about yesterday , fuming because his team selection was so bastard unnecessary and then the cheeky cunt gets his Catalan knickers in a twist because the press pull him up on his 8 CHANGES and he blabbers more senseless excuses.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I'm quite an old fucker now, but I don't remember being knackered for three days after playing a game of football in my youth.
All this resting players is bollox, by all means play your poorer players against poorer opposition, but not in a cup semi against a top 4 side FFS.

Agreed, I think this tiredness thing is a self fulfilling prophecy, that is, say you will be tired and you will be

Ask any young player if they are too tired to play twice in a week and they will laugh at you - its just a fuckign excuse for managers to cover their fuck ups at team selection.

[City64]

Good post !
Still haven’t got over last nights shit show though , it was an absolute disgrace.
Am I spoilt ? Absolutely not . A once in a lifetimes opportunity was thrown away carelessly and needlessly last night .

[salford city]

Good post !
Still haven’t got over last nights shit show though , it was an absolute disgrace.
Am I spoilt ? Absolutely not . A once in a lifetimes opportunity was thrown away carelessly and needlessly last night .

That's me too. Shit out if it yesterday. That was an fa cup semi final that he threw no ifs, no buts. Fucking fuming still with that.