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To Pep Guardiola Cityzen

[b]Here is hoping this will get to you one way or another.[/b]

Firstly let me say I am on your side, I sincerely hope you have a wonderful time with your family and Pandemic or not it must be incredibly hard to function with your family not by your side. I think we should all remember that during this awful time you lost one of the most important people in your life, your Mother RIP.
On behalf of all City fans before you start your break from football we all just want to know why!! We need to hear it from you not the media's ideas and pundits thoughts but yours!!
Just to say it was the right thing to do on the night to win the match is not enough!! I understood the league game , sort of understood the FA Cup semi final.

BUT :-

Why try something new in such an important game it was obvious to us all that the players did not respond to it, to select at least one player who is having great difficulty finding his form again. It failed last year against Lyon and it has again in this Final. We like you want to win everything , many of us are very disillusioned with UEFA as we are with the FA Premier league and FIFA. BUT IT IS SADLY A TROPHY WE MUST WIN TO GIVE THE TEAM AND CLUB THE WORLD WIDE RECOGNITION IT DESERVES!!

The players looked lost , they also froze on the night. We could of lost by a bigger margin that was. This to a team we should of beaten!!
Therefore I repeat the question "WHY"?????
Again have a great break , we will all be back at our Etihad next season god willing and Boris Johnson.

To board members, no smart arse replies please this is a genuine request and in many ways an important one before we have to spend the next 12 weeks listening to every story the media can make up about "OUR" club!!

No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

Write it in catalan. He might think it's from Barca fan and he will read it.

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

In a nutshell.

The question 'why'? will never be answered. Mainly because he believes he did no wrong and no answers are needed.

Tokyo Blue wrote:

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

In a nutshell.

IMO ,there some deluded are fans who think the same.

Its now fundamental we win this CL and anyone that says otherwise knows fuckall about business models and a company's image on a world stage.

We never had a better chance of doing it till we played Chelsea and I doubt we will ever get a better chance in the future.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

In a nutshell.

IMO ,there some deluded are fans who think the same.

Its now fundamental we win this CL and anyone that says otherwise knows fuckall about business models and a company's image on a world stage.

We never had a better chance of doing it till we played Chelsea and I doubt we will ever get a better chance in the future.

Hard to see a better chance that this one. This time next season, or earlier, we will be back having the very same postmortem.
I have no faith he will ever win the CL with us. He just cant resist.

sheblue wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

In a nutshell.

IMO ,there some deluded are fans who think the same.

Its now fundamental we win this CL and anyone that says otherwise knows fuckall about business models and a company's image on a world stage.

We never had a better chance of doing it till we played Chelsea and I doubt we will ever get a better chance in the future.

Hard to see a better chance that this one. This time next season, or earlier, we will be back having the very same postmortem.
I have no faith he will ever win the CL with us. He just cant resist.

We wont win it with PeP in charge.....and that claim is well backed up.

We either get rid of PeP if we want CL or we keep him and just win domestically.

I'm on the fence.....wouldn't be upset if he stays or goes.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

sheblue wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

In a nutshell.

IMO ,there some deluded are fans who think the same.

Its now fundamental we win this CL and anyone that says otherwise knows fuckall about business models and a company's image on a world stage.

We never had a better chance of doing it till we played Chelsea and I doubt we will ever get a better chance in the future.

Hard to see a better chance that this one. This time next season, or earlier, we will be back having the very same postmortem.
I have no faith he will ever win the CL with us. He just cant resist.

We wont win it with PeP in charge.....and that claim is well backed up.

We either get rid of PeP if we want CL or we keep him and just win domestically.

I'm on the fence.....wouldn't be upset if he stays or goes.

Can we stick him in a 'tinnker withdrawals' rehab?
Nah, still can't trust him in a chimps league final, his tinkering addiction is beyond help.

Thanks so far for honest replies, but please if you would tell me who this incredible genius is who is going to take over and win the CL , oh and the league of course . Top mangers :-

It started with Ericsson , then Hughes? Mancini, and Pellegrini, and that got us one semi final?? So who if not Pep??

CBBT wrote:Thanks so far for honest replies, but please if you would tell me who this incredible genius is who is going to take over and win the CL , oh and the league of course . Top mangers :-

It started with Ericsson , then Hughes? Mancini, and Pellegrini, and that got us one semi final?? So who if not Pep??

On a side note....Abramovich is a genius..he must be as hes won everything more than twice, chopping and changing managers in the process.
ZZ is available......3 CL and winning the league...or is he not good enough for you ?

Your going to need therapy when Baldie goes, aren't you ?

CBBT wrote:Thanks so far for honest replies, but please if you would tell me who this incredible genius is who is going to take over and win the CL , oh and the league of course . Top mangers :-

It started with Ericsson , then Hughes? Mancini, and Pellegrini, and that got us one semi final?? So who if not Pep??

Up And coming; Enzo Maresca ( Won championship with our EDS first season) joining Parma
Julian Nagelsmann ( joined Munchen)

proven and available;
Zidane
Conte

Are they better than Pep? Nope
If we want the chimps league, I'd lean towards Zidane

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

He would never have started a game for Barcelona without Busquets.

First name on the team Sheet.

He picks weird sides for the Rags to beat us every Derby.

Then when called out, says he was resting players for bigger games.

He literally decides when we win and when we will lose, he is that smart.

He decided he wanted us to lose the Final.

I listened to him rambling on about a role he had given Gundogan in that game,that Gundogan had never played ffs.

Gundogan best performances have all come in the advanced role.

He fucked us over plain and simple.

The reason he left Sterling on so long. There was every chance Sterling would set up a Chelsea quick counter.

He gave Aguero 15 minutes in a game where just 1 goal was needed to take it to extra time.

I dont care what bullshit he comes out with, to justify that shit show, like experimenting with a revolutionary unproven system that left the players all over the show in a European Final.

Not one World Class manager would have started that game against a quick counter attacking side with no DM.

He gets to have his arse kissed for a while longer as the Messiah who might one day deliver.

Tuchel game plan was really simple playing his best 11 players in their best positions.

Whilst Pep was going full on Ranieri 2.0 with a month left of the Football season, Chelsea were literally playing the same 13,14, players

At one stage i actually thought he might even fuck the Title up.




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zabbadabbado wrote:

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

He would never have stated a game for Barcelona without Busquets.

First name on the team Sheet.

He picks weird sides for the Rags to beat us every Derby.

Then when called out, says he was resting players for bigger games.

He literally decides when we win and when we will lose, he is that smart.

He decided he wanted us to lose the Final.

I listened to him rambling on about a role he had given Gundogan in that game,that Gundogan had never played ffs.

Gundogan best performances have all come in the advanced role.

He fucked us over plain and simple.

The reason he left Sterling on so long. There was every chance Sterling would set up a Chelsea quick counter.

He gave Aguero 15 minutes in a game where just 1 goal was needed to take it to extra time.

I dont care what bullshit he comes out with, like experimenting with a revolutionary unproven system that left the players all over the show.


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Aguero has scored more goals against Chelsea than any other club.

Yet Pep brought Jesus on when we needed a goal.

There is absolutely no excuse for that.

aaron bond wrote:

zabbadabbado wrote:

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

He would never have stated a game for Barcelona without Busquets.

First name on the team Sheet.

He picks weird sides for the Rags to beat us every Derby.

Then when called out, says he was resting players for bigger games.

He literally decides when we win and when we will lose, he is that smart.

He decided he wanted us to lose the Final.

I listened to him rambling on about a role he had given Gundogan in that game,that Gundogan had never played ffs.

Gundogan best performances have all come in the advanced role.

He fucked us over plain and simple.

The reason he left Sterling on so long. There was every chance Sterling would set up a Chelsea quick counter.

He gave Aguero 15 minutes in a game where just 1 goal was needed to take it to extra time.

I dont care what bullshit he comes out with, like experimenting with a revolutionary unproven system that left the players all over the show.


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Aguero has scored more goals against Chelsea than any other club.

Yet Pep brought Jesus on when we needed a goal.

There is absolutely no excuse for that.

100% agree.

Whilst i am on a rant,i think Aguero is being forced out to sign for Barcelona,you know that Club that is Pep love of his life.

Not one City fan wants Aguero to leave.

That weird shit with Garcia where we refuse £10,000 000 from Barcelona to give him them free months later.

zabbadabbado wrote:

aaron bond wrote:

zabbadabbado wrote:

salford city wrote:No smart arse reply from me orher than Pep believes he is bigger than the club and fan-base. Would he have changed tact for Barca- not a bit. Unless we have a world class striker to come in we will not get a better chance to land that pot. I along with a lot of others would not trust him to not pull a similar atunt again. That is your why

He would never have stated a game for Barcelona without Busquets.

First name on the team Sheet.

He picks weird sides for the Rags to beat us every Derby.

Then when called out, says he was resting players for bigger games.

He literally decides when we win and when we will lose, he is that smart.

He decided he wanted us to lose the Final.

I listened to him rambling on about a role he had given Gundogan in that game,that Gundogan had never played ffs.

Gundogan best performances have all come in the advanced role.

He fucked us over plain and simple.

The reason he left Sterling on so long. There was every chance Sterling would set up a Chelsea quick counter.

He gave Aguero 15 minutes in a game where just 1 goal was needed to take it to extra time.

I dont care what bullshit he comes out with, like experimenting with a revolutionary unproven system that left the players all over the show.


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That weird shit with Garcia where we refuse £10,000 000 from Barcelona to give him them free months later.

There was NO EXCUSE to keep Garcia longer than we had to.........if anyone thinks this wasn't a PeP financial favor to the 'love of his life club ' then you need to have a big rethink.

Well ok I need therapy because I believe in Pep! However all these managers named , why are they available? Have you heard the comments made from the fans of their clubs ?? Well they make Peps indiscretions very minor!! Feck me therapy I have read so many conspiracy theories about Pep and sending our best players to Barca, well if Garcia is one of our best players and Sergio ( who is my Favourite player of all time) but is now 32 and suffers from multiple injuries is doing Barca favours then I have to agree that we never landed on the moon and if we had they would of found Elvis living in a shack in the sea of tranquility!!!!!

CBBT wrote:Well ok I need therapy because I believe in Pep! However all these managers named , why are they available? Have you heard the comments made from the fans of their clubs ?? Well they make Peps indiscretions very minor!! Feck me therapy I have read so many conspiracy theories about Pep and sending our best players to Barca, well if Garcia is one of our best players and Sergio ( who is my Favourite player of all time) but is now 32 and suffers from multiple injuries is doing Barca favours then I have to agree that we never landed on the moon and if we had they would of found Elvis living in a shack in the sea of tranquility!!!!!

Zidane may be on his way out, but he will be fondly remembered by Real Madrid fans and was voted the best coach in the club's history by 67 percent of users, mainly due to his record of one trophy every 23 games and his three Champions Leagues.

What did Pep say about Garcia?

Asked about the centre-back’s situation, Guardiola said: "Eric Garcia is like a son. He was a guy last season that after lockdown was our best central defender. He never made a mistake and played in the quarter-final of the Champions League.

"He's going to play in Barcelona and that is not an average player - he is a top player. He was not selected in the last two games and it broke my heart.

Now hold on a second. Not saying I want him as manager but Brendan Rogers wouldn't have tinkered with the team as much.
There are plenty of managers who would have believed in stability and consistency in the very simple process of bringing the same winning team from a semi-final to a final.
It was just pure mad and I still cant believe he did it! Therefore sadly I will never trust him not to do it again.

sheblue wrote:Now hold on a second. Not saying I want him as manager but Brendan Rogers wouldn't have tinkered with the team as much.
There are plenty of managers who would have believed in stability and consistency in the very simple process of bringing the same winning team from a semi-final to a final.
It was just pure mad and I still cant believe he did it! Therefore sadly I will never trust him not to do it again.

There are and always will be managers out there who would win us trophies and these same managers would never have experienced the same club support that PeP has been afforded over these years in the clubs they managed.........that's why PeP stayed and signed an extension......the support he receives is unheard of.

Some fans need to give their head a wobble if they think we will be fucked if baldie left.