***rbl v city official match thread***

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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:45 pm

Mase wrote:Stones was at fault for both goals. Played the guy on for the first and gave the ball away for the second.

Always plays better with Ruben beside him, who wouldn’t.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Mase » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:45 pm

And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby mr_nool » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:49 pm

Mase wrote:And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?


Different competitions and different refs.
I thought both were worthy of red to be honest (even if Kyle didn't really connect), but you can't really point to inconsistencies from one game to another in a completely different competition.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Mase » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:54 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Mase wrote:And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?


Different competitions and different refs.
I thought both were worthy of red to be honest (even if Kyle didn't really connect), but you can't really point to inconsistencies from one game to another in a completely different competition.


Or the similarity is that we’re being done by refs.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:56 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Mase wrote:And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?


Different competitions and different refs.
I thought both were worthy of red to be honest (even if Kyle didn't really connect), but you can't really point to inconsistencies from one game to another in a completely different competition.

But it shouldn’t matter, these are the IFAB rules. I mentioned this right after the game and believe both were very different. With Jesus, he had 2 swipes and then got wrapped up in the second which injured Jesus. Walker took one swipe, and although aggressive, never really amounted to much as the player who had been continually hacking players jumped up with no adverse effect.

The other thing I noticed was that we were flagged for marginal offside calls whereas RBL were allowed to play on. That seemed a directive from the ref rather than individual decisions and, each time, went against us.

The ref, for me, was at it all game.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby mr_nool » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:07 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Mase wrote:And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?


Different competitions and different refs.
I thought both were worthy of red to be honest (even if Kyle didn't really connect), but you can't really point to inconsistencies from one game to another in a completely different competition.

But it shouldn’t matter, these are the IFAB rules. I mentioned this right after the game and believe both were very different. With Jesus, he had 2 swipes and then got wrapped up in the second which injured Jesus. Walker took one swipe, and although aggressive, never really amounted to much as the player who had been continually hacking players jumped up with no adverse effect.

The other thing I noticed was that we were flagged for marginal offside calls whereas RBL were allowed to play on. That seemed a directive from the ref rather than individual decisions and, each time, went against us.

The ref, for me, was at it all game.


I agree that the ref was appalling, but I don't see the correlation with this weekend's game. The rules are the same, but each refs interprets the rules differently, and another competition means a different context. That saus, I think it should've been a red this weekend too.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby mr_nool » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:08 pm

Mase wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Mase wrote:And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?


Different competitions and different refs.
I thought both were worthy of red to be honest (even if Kyle didn't really connect), but you can't really point to inconsistencies from one game to another in a completely different competition.


Or the similarity is that we’re being done by refs.


Agree with that, both for tonight a d last weekend.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Nick » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:18 pm

We had a back 4 in the league cup that played mint
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby johnny crossan » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:45 pm

worrying lacuna within the Walker cranium, better sign a full back before the last 16 now.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby stupot » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:50 pm

Nick wrote:We had a back 4 in the league cup that played mint

We played Wycombe, conceded 1 and could easily have conceded a couple more. They definitely didn't play mint.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby blues2win » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:54 pm

To be honest we didn’t have a leader on the pitch to drag something out of the players. Fernandinho’s past it now sadly. The whole team would have played better (certainly the defence) if Ruben had played. Of course Pep didn’t want to start him and I understand why but still…..
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Dimples » Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:08 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Mase wrote:And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?


Different competitions and different refs.
I thought both were worthy of red to be honest (even if Kyle didn't really connect), but you can't really point to inconsistencies from one game to another in a completely different competition.

But it shouldn’t matter, these are the IFAB rules. I mentioned this right after the game and believe both were very different. With Jesus, he had 2 swipes and then got wrapped up in the second which injured Jesus. Walker took one swipe, and although aggressive, never really amounted to much as the player who had been continually hacking players jumped up with no adverse effect.

The other thing I noticed was that we were flagged for marginal offside calls whereas RBL were allowed to play on. That seemed a directive from the ref rather than individual decisions and, each time, went against us.

The ref, for me, was at it all game.


I agree that the ref was appalling, but I don't see the correlation with this weekend's game. The rules are the same, but each refs interprets the rules differently, and another competition means a different context. That saus, I think it should've been a red this weekend too.


The ref was interpreting the rules differently for each team tonight. That is the issue I have.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:21 am

The ref was dire and our manager was dire in his team selection .
Foden is injured , Walker is out for the knock outs (not sure if it’s One game ?)

He never used one fucking youth player until the 87th minute and made the shocking decision to play fernandino for the whole game !! a player who gave the ball away more than anyone else !!

The reason we won’t win the CL is because he isn’t capable of not having these continuous brain farts which seem to be part and parcel of his DNA in this competition.

Horrendous management yesterday .
THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Original Dub » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:03 am

:lol:
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:35 am

Mase wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Mase wrote:And what was the difference between Walker’s kick and the Watford player that booted Jesus on Saturday?


Different competitions and different refs.
I thought both were worthy of red to be honest (even if Kyle didn't really connect), but you can't really point to inconsistencies from one game to another in a completely different competition.


Or the similarity is that we’re being done by refs.

Watched this in my local, as usual for these CL matches. There's three Derby fans doing contract work around here who've been in each time. Even they have noticed and commented on how we are ref'ed differently to other teams, as if under orders to hinder us. They couldn't believe the penalty wasn't given, or that Kyle got a red for his ankle tap (their words) while we seemed to be kicked worse without even being given a foul. Glad others are seeing it now.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby PeterParker » Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:04 am

The ref was shit, but is anyone surprised?

We have our share of blame in this, to be honest. Everyone knows they will try and do us with every single chance they have, you know it, I know, but it seems our staff and board don't and they somewhat feel that we will win this fair and square.
Impossible.

We don't put pressure on refs. Remember how that was one of the "tactics" Taggart had? Everyone near the ref. Do that every time and see what happens.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby dave watson's perm » Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:05 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:The ref was dire and our manager was dire in his team selection .
Foden is injured , Walker is out for the knock outs (not sure if it’s One game ?)

He never used one fucking youth player until the 87th minute and made the shocking decision to play fernandino for the whole game !! a player who gave the ball away more than anyone else !!

The reason we won’t win the CL is because he isn’t capable of not having these continuous brain farts which seem to be part and parcel of his DNA in this competition.

Horrendous management yesterday .


i find it bizarre that he speaks out about having a skeleton team last week yet doesnt use all his subs in what was a meaningless game.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby RodneyRodney » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:31 am

I'm LIVID with Guardiola for last night, as I suspect are the younger players - not "kids" - who were flown half way across Europe and back to sit on the bloody bench for 90 mins. SENSELESS.
95% of the time he's the best coach on the planet ; 5% of the time his decisions completely defy logic.
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:45 am

OD crawled away again ?
THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: ***rbl v city official match thread***

Postby Original Dub » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:35 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:OD crawled away again ?


No, your anti-pep logic is just too bullet proof to argue with :lol:
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