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Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:12 pm
by Mase
64 played as England and England only!

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:29 pm
by johnny crossan
Mahrez is thriving in a more patient City team – and is now playing selfless role with Algeria

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By Sam Lee Jan 12, 2022 8
It’s hard to work out whether Riyad Mahrez’s Manchester City player of the month award for December, which he claimed with over 80 per cent of the vote, is proof of his increasing popularity among the club’s die-hard fans or simply the latest demonstration of how much he is loved at home in Algeria.

You could make a plausible argument for both, given how well the 30-year-old has been playing over the past 12 months, although it probably is that online army of Algerians who will cheer for any club Mahrez plays for and have boundless energy when it comes to telling the world how great he is.

And for the next few weeks they will get him all to themselves as he captains defending champions Algeria at the Africa Cup of Nations.

“Riyad Mahrez is a national icon in Algeria, he’s a star in the truest sense of the term,” says Walid Ziani, who runs the@DZfoot Twitter account that is dedicated to the north African country’s national team. “Going around the country, his posters are everywhere, there’s murals of him everywhere; and when Manchester City play most Algerians are tuning in, it’s almost like a national event.

“We haven’t had a player of his stature in about 30 or 40 years, since the golden generation of the 1980s. He’s the golden boy of Algerian football and I would say that at this point he is a symbol for Algerians in the same way that Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane are for their respective nations. He’s a massive icon in Algeria.”


Understandably, the time Salah and Mane spend with Egypt and Senegal respectively over the next month is likely to have more of an impact on Liverpool, given their importance to the side, than Mahrez’s adventure in Cameroon will on City.

But that is no slight on him.

City don’t miss anybody.

They don’t miss Kevin De Bruyne whenever he’s injured, and he has won the PFA’s player of the season award for the last two years running. They haven’t missed having a true left-back for about five years. They might even be better without a genuine striker.

That’s part of a wider debate about squad building but City are a machine and, due to Pep Guardiola’s management, players can come in and move out of the side without any noticeable drop-off in performances or results.

Having said that, they might not want Mahrez to be unavailable for too long.

City share the goals around their team these days but across all four competitions in the calendar year of 2021 the Algerian scored more of them (21) and also registered more assists (13) than any of his Etihad team-mates.

Man City goals and assists in 2021
Riyad Mahrez 21 13
Phil Foden 18 12
Ilkay Gundogan 17 9
Raheem Sterling 16 7
Gabriel Jesus 15 11
Kevin De Bruyne 14 9
Bernardo Silva 12 11
Ferran Torres 9 2
Joao Cancelo 5 11

And beyond that consistent flow of goal involvements, he looks right at home in the City team these days, part of that well-oiled machine, yet another player who knows exactly where he should be and what he should be doing.

There will have been plenty of non-Algerian votes for Mahrez recently but he has not always been the most popular player among City fans since his move from Leicester City in the summer of 2018, and it probably helps explain why he isn’t as revered in Manchester as Salah and Mane are on Merseyside, let alone in their home countries.

In his first year or so at City, Mahrez was the subject of the same kind of comments Jack Grealish now has to put up with: he was ‘shackled’ in Guardiola’s team, he didn’t fit their style, he wasn’t on the same wavelength as the others. Things like that.

There was a late missed penalty in a 0-0 draw at Anfield in the October of that debut season — the memory of which still lingers — when he took the ball off Gabriel Jesus; in the February, the Etihad Stadium crowd was noticeably grumpy whenever he lost the ball in a game against West Ham United and he was substituted 10 minutes into the second half that day (which is early for Guardiola).

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Mahrez has been in outstanding form for Manchester City in recent weeks (Photo: James Gill – Danehouse/Getty Images)
In his second season, when he started to look more at home, it was still a common complaint that Mahrez held onto the ball for too long, that he too often took the wrong option and gave possession away cheaply.

The Athletic reported that team-mates had taken this up with him on two separate occasions. Mahrez didn’t like the article and denied it was true on Twitter, but it did also highlight that he was becoming a more important member of the team, creating chances alongside De Bruyne and Joao Cancelo at a time when City were in a bit of a creative slump.

Guardiola and his staff changed things around a little over a year ago and City haven’t looked back. But rather than move towards a style that suited the things Mahrez had been doing since Leicester signed him from French second-division side Le Havre in January 2014, they went further the other way.

“It was more dynamic, more crosses: me on one side, Leroy (Sane) on the other side; two motorbikes, just constant zoom zoom zoom zoom,” Raheem Sterling said recently, describing how City are not as direct as they used to be, particularly out wide. “Now, it’s more left foot on the right wing, right foot on the left wing and it’s more patient, more keep-ball and not as dynamic, but both teams kept the ball really well and score goals.”

The idea that Mahrez is thriving in a more patient, less direct City team, given those earlier claims about his own direct style, is quite ironic. He has adapted and deserves credit for that, yet that only tells half the story.

When Guardiola explained the reasons for his side’s resurgence at the start of 2021, he talked about wingers going back to playing high and wide, and Sterling had been restored to his natural side of the pitch.

With the left-footed Phil Foden on the left, it looked like Mahrez, who has never really played on the left at all, might not fit into the new plans. And yet, within a few weeks, he had become undroppable as Guardiola had clearly established a group of players who needed to be kept fresh for City’s run to the Champions League final.

Mahrez was crucial in that run and it could be argued they wouldn’t have got to the final were it not for his cutting edge, given he buried a penalty at a crucial time against Borussia Dortmund in the quarter-final’s second leg and then scored three of City’s four goals in the semi-final win over Paris Saint-Germain.

And yet he was out of the team again at the start of this season.

Jesus established himself on the right wing and Mahrez started two of the first 12 Premier League matches, sitting on the bench at Stamford Bridge, Anfield and Old Trafford — and not coming off it in the latter two.

City seemed to be moving on yet again and they certainly look thrilling when their wingers hug the touchline, allowing Bernardo Silva, Ilkay Gundogan and whoever plays as the striker to exploit the spaces in the middle.

But Mahrez can stay high and wide, too. He’s still dangerous when running at a full-back and cutting inside (aided by that wonderful first touch of his), but he knows how to hold his position and free up others to do the more destructive work when he has to — not that his scoring streak is over.

He scored five times in the six Champions League group games and was on a run of four in four consecutive league appearances before joining up with Algeria for AFCON.

His penalty at Arsenal on New Year’s Day may have even cemented him as City’s best taker of them, given he has scored eight in a row for club and country since that Anfield nightmare three and a half years ago.

More than any online vote, the real proof that Mahrez has won the City fans over will come when they have full confidence that their team will score from the spot. They’ve had a difficult couple of years on that front but if one player is going to fix that, it may as well be Mahrez.

Those early frustrations seem to be a thing of the past, and where he may have once overplayed, everything now seems efficient, barely a touch wasted.

Even on Tuesday, as Algeria struggled to a goalless draw with Sierra Leone in their opening group match, Mahrez played a selfless role, hitting those reverse passes in behind the defence and finding team-mates in good areas, just like he does in a City shirt.

He was one of the star men as Algeria won the previous AFCON in 2019 and he could do the same this time around.

Then he’ll come back to City and slot perfectly back into the machine.

(Top photo: Charly Triballeau/AFP via Getty Images)

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Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:22 pm
by nottsblue
'AFCON chaos as ref blows FT at 85 and 89 mins!'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12514387
And we think our referees are shit

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:36 am
by Dimples
nottsblue wrote:'AFCON chaos as ref blows FT at 85 and 89 mins!'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12514387
And we think our referees are shit


Maybe it is as simple as their refs are more corrupt?

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:02 am
by johnny crossan
Dimples wrote:
nottsblue wrote:'AFCON chaos as ref blows FT at 85 and 89 mins!'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12514387
And we think our referees are shit


Maybe it is as simple as their refs are more corrupt?

or sunstroke

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:12 am
by Tokyo Blue
nottsblue wrote:'AFCON chaos as ref blows FT at 85 and 89 mins!'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12514387
And we think our referees are shit

If Ian Wright is reading here (and there is no reason he should be, to be fair) THIS is the main reason the ACON is not taken that seriously. It is bent as a corkscrew.

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:25 am
by carl_feedthegoat
Dimples wrote:
nottsblue wrote:'AFCON chaos as ref blows FT at 85 and 89 mins!'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12514387
And we think our referees are shit


Maybe it is as simple as their refs are more corrupt?


Racist !!!!!

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:57 pm
by nottsblue
Algeria lose.

We may Mahrez sooner rather than later

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:15 pm
by CTID Hants
nottsblue wrote:Algeria lose.

We may Mahrez sooner rather than later


Fingers crossed NB

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:30 am
by sheblue
But Sterling has been doing really well on the right wing.
We haven't missed Mahrez much.

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:28 pm
by CTID Hants
Turns out Comoros that I had never heard of just beat 4 times tournament winners Ghana in a five goal thriller, winning 2-3 :lol:

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:39 pm
by Nigels Tackle
CTID Hants wrote:Turns out Comoros that I had never heard of just beat 4 times tournament winners Ghana in a five goal thriller, winning 2-3 :lol:


didn’t lionel ritchie make his name with the comores?

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:17 pm
by PeterParker
The algerian prince is coming home.

PS: Missed a penalty also.

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:39 pm
by blues2win
3-0 down and they had to win. Welcome back.

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:01 pm
by sheblue
ALGERIA knocked out! :o wait until I build a dam to hold back me tears.

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:24 pm
by johnny crossan
PeterParker wrote:The algerian prince is coming home.

PS: Missed a penalty also.
Hope he doesn't do a Partey trick, straight from plane to pitch then a red card.....

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 am
by BlueinBosnia
CTID Hants wrote:Ian Wright was very verbal in saying the tournament doesn't get the respect it deserves, barely covered in the media etc....


If Arsenal had won yesterday, would he have been complaining that it didn't receive enough media attention because all the stories were about AFCON, I wonder?

From what I saw last night, the LC semi was basically the third-most-important story on most UK news websites, behind 2 AFCON stories (Algeria out, general group stage round-up), and ahead of 2 others (varied, depending on outlet). Considering the Dippers get more media attention than Arsenal, had Arsenal won, it might have been relegated to the 4th or 5th most covered footballing issue of the evening.

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:10 am
by john68
I don't think it's a matter of disrespect, I think it's a case of lack of relevance and/or interest to the European football fans.
We don't celebrate the Asian, Oceana. American, north or south comps with much more than a passing interest for most but we are not accused of disrespecting them. So why particularly Africa.

Personally I hate racism with a passion but that does not mean that I have to take part and celebrate other cultures, just be aware that they exist and respect them.

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:06 pm
by BlueinBosnia
CTID Hants wrote:Turns out Comoros that I had never heard of just beat 4 times tournament winners Ghana in a five goal thriller, winning 2-3 :lol:


All 3 of their keepers out for today's match (shoulder, COVID, and not returning a negative COVID test in time), so they've got to put an outfield player between the sticks against Cameroon today. Can't see this ending well...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/60110971

Re: AFCON

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:38 pm
by nottsblue
BlueinBosnia wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:Turns out Comoros that I had never heard of just beat 4 times tournament winners Ghana in a five goal thriller, winning 2-3 :lol:


All 3 of their keepers out for today's match (shoulder, COVID, and not returning a negative COVID test in time), so they've got to put an outfield player between the sticks against Cameroon today. Can't see this ending well...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/60110971

Down to 10 men after 7 minutes as well. A more dead cert there hasn’t been