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Postby john@staustell » Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:47 am

As in the Commercial thread:

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Manchester City overtook Manchester United for revenue for the first time in their history last season.

City recorded a total operating revenue of €644 million, with a little over half being attributed to broadcasting income. This puts their revenue up 17 per cent from the previous year.

Manchester United totalled €557 million in revenue, €87 million less than City.

In the European Champions Report 2022 — compiled by KPMG — City were also revealed to have a revenue that was 10 times more than that of Besiktas and Sporting CP.

City's broadcasting revenue rose to €355.5 million while their commercial income hit €307.9 million.

This makes City the only league champions to register both annual growth in revenue, but also surpass their total income of the last pre-COVID-19 season which was 2018-19.

City's enterprise value also grew to €2,170 million, making them the sixth most valuable club in the world.
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby john@staustell » Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:53 am

Financial Times:

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Revenues at Manchester City last season exceeded those of rivals Manchester United for the first time, according to newly published figures, underlining the impact of the pandemic but also the rise of a new power in English and European football.

Winning the Premier League title and reaching the final of the Uefa Champions League helped push City’s operating revenues to €644m in the 2020/21 season, up 17 per cent year on year, according to consultants at KPMG. The figure covers broadcast, match day and commercial income.

Manchester United, historically the league’s richest club by revenues, generated €557m in the same period, KPMG said in a report. The team, which has won the title a record 13 times, has failed to add to its tally since 2013, when manager Sir Alex Ferguson retired.

City’s rise has accelerated with the 2016 appointment of manager Pep Guardiola, who has led the team to three titles in five years, and comes after governing body Uefa estimated that European clubs would miss out on €9bn of revenues across the 2019-20 and 2020-21 seasons.

City’s run to last season’s Champions League final led to income of €129.5m from Uefa, according to KPMG.

The pandemic has distorted the picture of football finances, while United may well reclaim its revenue supremacy this year now that games are being played in full-capacity stadiums.

The KPMG Football Benchmark, which did not disclose figures for City’s staff costs, profit or loss, offers a preview of the club’s finances ahead of the publication of its accounts in the coming days, according to a person close to the club. KPMG said the figures were confirmed by Manchester City. New York-listed Manchester United’s accounts for the 12 months ended June 30 were published last year.

Overall, City’s broadcast revenues rose 55 per cent to €335.5m, according to KPMG, though the figure was inflated because some games were moved into 2020/21 from the previous season.

The recovery in broadcast income helped to offset a near total loss of match day revenues as games were played largely in empty stadiums because of the pandemic. United suffers disproportionately because its stadium holds roughly 20,000 more people than City’s 55,000-capacity ground.

City’s commercial revenues increased 8 per cent to €307.9m. The club, owned since 2008 by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, the billionaire member of the Abu Dhabi royal family has a range of partnerships with Abu-Dhabi-based companies, including a deal signed last week with renewable energy group Masdar. Other partners include Etihad Airlines, telecoms company Etisalat and German sportswear group Puma.

United’s commercial revenues fell almost 17 per cent year on year to £232.2m in the 12 months to June, with some sponsors deferring payments because of Covid. The team has, however, signed up technology company TeamViewer as its main shirt sponsor and renewed a number of deals.

United pointed to the “strength and resilience” of the club through the pandemic, “despite the significant loss of revenues from normal levels while matches were played behind closed doors”.

The KPMG report analysed the finances of eight league title-holders in Europe.

City declined to comment.
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby nottsblue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:56 am

Good news.

But I cannot believe the first sentence is factually correct.
I'm simply not having it that this is the first year we have had more income than the rags on over 125 years. If it said in the PL era or such like that fair enough. But in history? Cant see it
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:12 pm

Me neither. The nineteen thirties when we were winning stuff and they were at the arse end of division two springs to mind
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby nottsblue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:15 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:Me neither. The nineteen thirties when we were winning stuff and they were at the arse end of division two springs to mind

Even in the 70s there would have likely been at least a couple of years
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby john@staustell » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:16 pm

.......................and then of course they bailed out from bancrupcy in the 30s too.
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:48 pm

Excuse my ignorance in these matters, but does this kill off the "financial doping" nonsense?
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby john@staustell » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:56 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:Excuse my ignorance in these matters, but does this kill off the "financial doping" nonsense?


Nah cos they're 'all owned by our owner' etc etc
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:43 pm

the FT report

Manchester City’s revenues overtake United for first time
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Premier League champion’s rival hampered by loss of match day income

Revenues at Manchester City last season exceeded those of rivals Manchester United for the first time, according to newly published figures, underlining the impact of the pandemic but also the rise of a new power in English and European football.

Winning the Premier League title and reaching the final of the Uefa Champions League helped push City’s operating revenues to €644m in the 2020/21 season, up 17 per cent year on year, according to consultants at KPMG. The figure covers broadcast, match day and commercial income.

Manchester United, historically the league’s richest club by revenues, generated €557m in the same period, KPMG said in a report. The team, which has won the title a record 13 times, has failed to add to its tally since 2013, when manager Sir Alex Ferguson retired.

City’s rise has accelerated with the 2016 appointment of manager Pep Guardiola, who has led the team to three titles in five years, and comes after governing body Uefa estimated that European clubs would miss out on €9bn of revenues across the 2019-20 and 2020-21 seasons.

City’s run to last season’s Champions League final led to income of €129.5m from Uefa, according to KPMG.

The pandemic has distorted the picture of football finances, while United may well reclaim its revenue supremacy this year now that games are being played in full-capacity stadiums.

The KPMG Football Benchmark, which did not disclose figures for City’s staff costs, profit or loss, offers a preview of the club’s finances ahead of the publication of its accounts in the coming days, according to a person close to the club. KPMG said the figures were confirmed by Manchester City. New York-listed Manchester United’s accounts for the 12 months ended June 30 were published last year.

Overall, City’s broadcast revenues rose 55 per cent to €335.5m, according to KPMG, though the figure was inflated because some games were moved into 2020/21 from the previous season.

The recovery in broadcast income helped to offset a near total loss of match day revenues as games were played largely in empty stadiums because of the pandemic. United suffers disproportionately because its stadium holds roughly 20,000 more people than City’s 55,000-capacity ground.

City’s commercial revenues increased 8 per cent to €307.9m. The club, owned since 2008 by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, the billionaire member of the Abu Dhabi royal family has a range of partnerships with Abu-Dhabi-based companies, including a deal signed last week with renewable energy group Masdar. Other partners include Etihad Airlines, telecoms company Etisalat and German sportswear group Puma.

United’s commercial revenues fell almost 17 per cent year on year to £232.2m in the 12 months to June, with some sponsors deferring payments because of Covid. The team has, however, signed up technology company TeamViewer as its main shirt sponsor and renewed a number of deals.

United pointed to the “strength and resilience” of the club through the pandemic, “despite the significant loss of revenues from normal levels while matches were played behind closed doors”.

The KPMG report analysed the finances of eight league title-holders in Europe.

City declined to comment.
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby sheblue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:12 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:Me neither. The nineteen thirties when we were winning stuff and they were at the arse end of division two springs to mind


What! football was a thing before 1992? Don't tell Sky...
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby salford city » Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:02 pm

Cue all manner of spin and mud-slinging. Oh wait, we have already been there
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby PeterParker » Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:13 pm

Just saw this on my social media from BBC

Title:
Bayern Munich were the only top European league champions to make profit in 2020-21


In the article:
Meanwhile, Premier League champions Manchester City were the only club to see their income increase compared to the previous season.
City registered a total income of 644m euros (£537.3m), the highest figure among the eight league winners including Bayern, Atletico Madrid, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Lille, Inter Milan and Besiktas.


You cannot make this shit up :lol: :lol:
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Postby nottsblue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:14 pm

PeterParker wrote:Just saw this on my social media from BBC

Title:
Bayern Munich were the only top European league champions to make profit in 2020-21


In the article:
Meanwhile, Premier League champions Manchester City were the only club to see their income increase compared to the previous season.
City registered a total income of 644m euros (£537.3m), the highest figure among the eight league winners including Bayern, Atletico Madrid, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Lille, Inter Milan and Besiktas.


You cannot make this shit up :lol: :lol:

Income and profit are two very different beasts don’t forget
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby PeterParker » Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:17 pm

nottsblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Just saw this on my social media from BBC

Title:
Bayern Munich were the only top European league champions to make profit in 2020-21


In the article:
Meanwhile, Premier League champions Manchester City were the only club to see their income increase compared to the previous season.
City registered a total income of 644m euros (£537.3m), the highest figure among the eight league winners including Bayern, Atletico Madrid, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Lille, Inter Milan and Besiktas.


You cannot make this shit up :lol: :lol:

Income and profit are two very different beasts don’t forget


Agree, however, the article is unclear about our profit. The other mention about us is this:
Although City's revenue increased, the club also recorded a net spend of 294m euros on transfers and have one of the biggest wage bills in football (£351.4m in 18-19).
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby nottsblue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:30 pm

PeterParker wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Just saw this on my social media from BBC

Title:
Bayern Munich were the only top European league champions to make profit in 2020-21


In the article:
Meanwhile, Premier League champions Manchester City were the only club to see their income increase compared to the previous season.
City registered a total income of 644m euros (£537.3m), the highest figure among the eight league winners including Bayern, Atletico Madrid, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Lille, Inter Milan and Besiktas.


You cannot make this shit up :lol: :lol:

Income and profit are two very different beasts don’t forget


Agree, however, the article is unclear about our profit. The other mention about us is this:
Although City's revenue increased, the club also recorded a net spend of 294m euros on transfers and have one of the biggest wage bills in football (£351.4m in 18-19).

Don’t think we have released the latest accounts yet. Noticed that net spend figure and wondered where it came from as it smacks of utter bullshit to me
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Postby nottsblue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:02 pm

Manchester City chairman Khaldoon al-Mubarak says the club can "look forward to the future with confidence" after recording a profit of £2.4m for 2020-21.

The figure, which covers the year from 1 July 2020 to 30 June 2021, contrasts with a £126m loss in the previous year.

Khaldoon said at the time City would "return to profitability".

City played virtually the entire 2020-21 season without spectators.

But a run to the Champions League final, where they were beaten by Chelsea, and their fourth Premier League title under manager Pep Guardiola have helped the club's finances.

"It is clear that the last two years have held challenges that no-one could have foreseen," Khaldoon said.

"But thanks to the strength of our foundation work and the collective achievements of so many over the last decade, we can all look to the future with confidence, knowing our trajectory continues firmly in line with our plans."

For the first time, City's revenues exceed those of Manchester United. City's overall revenue for 2020-21 was £569.8m, while United's was £494.1m.

However, City do not expect to remain in top spot in 12 months' time when matchday revenue returns to normal.

In their annual report, City say they are now the fourth most valuable brand in European football, trailing Real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester United, but exceeding Bayern Munich.

On Tuesday, KPMG Football Benchmark's "European Champions Report", which analysed the finances of the champions of England, Spain, Germany, Italy, France, the Netherlands, Turkey and Portugal, said Bayern Munich were the only league champions to make a profit in 2020-21. However, City's figures show that they also made a profit.

KPMG's report also revealed that the English champions were the only club to see their income increase compared to the previous season.

City wages have gone up slightly to £354.69m.

There is a contingency in there for additional payments to players if "certain conditions are met". This could reach £227.98m.

In addition, since the accounting year finished, City have signed Jack Grealish, Scott Carson and Kayky Da Silva Chagas (from Brazilian side Fluminese) and sold Jack Harrison, Ivan Ilic and Lukas Nmecha. The overall cost of these deals is listed as £79.8m, which means Kayky cost around £11m.

City say they have installed 5,620 rail seats, which will be used for the first time at Saturday's Premier League game with Chelsea as part of a nationwide pilot.
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby nottsblue » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:03 pm

So it appears that the article claiming Bayern were the only club to record a profit in Europes top five leagues was inaccurate. Fancy that
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby salford city » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:09 pm

nottsblue wrote:So it appears that the article claiming Bayern were the only club to record a profit in Europes top five leagues was inaccurate. Fancy that


Who knew Der Spiegel....or somesuch
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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:22 pm

Manchester United are now being outperformed off the pitch as well as on it by Manchester City

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Manchester City successfully knocked Manchester United off their perch long ago.
Four Premier League titles have been won by the boys in blue since their neighbours at Old Trafford were last crowned champions in 2012-13 and few would bet against that number growing to five in May.

The 22 points that separate the clubs in the table just after the midpoint of this season is a telling measure of City’s modern domination and now, after a decade spent closing the financial gulf to United, they can now boast the better financial results to boot.

City’s annual accounts, published in brief yesterday, revealed a record-breaking year at the Etihad Stadium.

Total income for 2020-21 stood at £569.8 million in a campaign that ended with defeat to Chelsea in the Champions League final. United, meanwhile, were left trailing in their wake with annual revenues totalling £494 million.

This battle of the balance sheets will not be one to sing about when the clubs next meet on the first weekend in March but they do underline City’s status as the rising force of European football.

United, for all their commercial clout and worldwide following, have finally been bettered by their noisy neighbours. The nouveau riche are now top of the English tree.

How has the shift in power happened?

City’s financial growth over the last decade has been unparalleled. A club that failed to even make Deloitte’s Football Money League top 20 for 2006-07, lagging behind Celtic and Marseille, has been transformed since the takeover of Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan with Abu Dhabi’s millions in 2008. From an annual turnover of £87 million in 2008-09 to almost £570 million last season, income has gone up more than six-fold in 12 years.

Season on season, there has been success-driven growth, gradually propelling City up towards Europe’s elite. United had been the only English club left to catch in recent seasons but a new frontrunner emerged in 2020-21.

City’s run to the Champions League final was the undoubted driver for a changing of the guard.

KPMG, the renowned accountancy firm, says that was worth £108 million in prize money from UEFA, while a quirk of timing only increased broadcast streams in the club’s accounts.

The 2020-21 financial year included City’s participation in the knockout stages of the 2019-20 Champions League. Real Madrid were beaten in the last 16 before Lyon upset Pep Guardiola’s side in the quarter-finals, which were pushed back to a post-domestic season mini-tournament in the August by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Then there was another Premier League title won last season, as well as the almost-annual Carabao Cup final success and a run to the semi-finals of the FA Cup. All of that combined to give City a broadcast income of almost £300 million across 12 months, dramatically up from the £190 million of disrupted, extended 2019-20.
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Commercial revenue was also up to a new high of £271 million, according to the club’s accounts.

An army of 31 global partners, including a host associated with the club’s Abu Dhabi ownership, now work with City and allow them to eclipse United’s reduced commercial income of £232 million.

Put it all together and there might not be a club in world football to trump City’s accounts, which showed a small profit of £2.4 million after the brutal losses of £126 million in the previous calendar year.

“From a revenue perspective, it is true that Manchester City have leapfrogged Manchester United,” says Andrea Sartori, KPMG’s global head of sports and author of the European Champions Report 2022.

“And at the moment, they are the highest revenue-generating club in Europe and the world. They have higher revenues than Barcelona and Real Madrid, higher than Bayern Munich — as we’ve shown in the report.

“We still don’t have all big clubs’ numbers. Liverpool haven’t published, but I would be astounded if Liverpool can surpass them (City). Paris Saint-Germain could be a contender in that sense but, as of now, with all the available information, City are not only on top of United but also the rest of Europe.”

Has the pandemic done anything to skew the figures for 2020-21?

Undoubtedly. And in a big way. A season spent playing behind closed doors did an awful lot more to hurt Manchester United than it did Manchester City, and makes it a slightly misleading picture.

In any normal campaign, United can expect to make twice City’s match-day revenue.

Take the 2018-19 season, for example, and it was £111 million at Old Trafford up against £55 million over at the Etihad.

Strip all that back and it is clear that United, who boast a home with over 20,000 more seats than City’s, were left far more exposed by the pandemic. Only now, with Old Trafford back at full capacity, are United able to call upon the income streams they used to take for granted.

“COVID-19 hit United far harder than it hit City,” says Kieran Maguire, the football finance expert. “United would normally make around £110 million from ticket sales in a season. City typically get half of United’s match-day revenue because they’ve got a different fan profile: Fewer corporate fans, fewer international fans.

“Put that all together and it’s United hit hardest by playing games behind closed doors.”

So, City were helped to catch United by the pandemic. But how have they now managed to overtake them in terms of commercial income?

This is where the greatest change has taken place in the last decade.

United have always traditionally been the most attractive option to sponsors. They have the history, the fanbase and the appeal to ensure commercial backers are never in short supply. Brand United sells itself in the 21st century.

City, meanwhile, had traditionally been the poor relations of Manchester. Go back to when Sheikh Mansour first pitched up and their commercial income was just £23 million a year. Or a third of United’s.

Keeping pace with United, the savvy market leaders, was an enormous task but City can now claim to be the Manchester club out in front. While United’s commercial revenue fell from £279 million to £232 million last season, City’s was climbing from £246 million to £271 million.

Those with a cynical eye, of course, will point towards City’s commercial partners and where in the world they are based. They have Etihad Airways as shirt sponsors, and also have link-ups with Visit Abu Dhabi and Expo 2020 Dubai.


And they keep coming.

There are also partnerships with Masdar, Abu Dhabi’s renewable energy company, and Etisalat, the Emirati-based telecommunications firm.

There is little question City have maximised opportunities with related parties in the UAE but their on-field success has also brought in significant sums from the likes of Nissan and Nexen Tyres. Corporate sponsors typically pay additional performance-based sums and reaching the club’s first ever Champions League final, as well as winning another domestic title, will have inevitably brought an uplift.

United saw a year-on-year fall in commercial revenue but they will point to the make-up of their sponsors, typically blue-chip firms that were exposed to the pandemic, as a reason for the stumble. Theirs, as a floated company, is a very different model to City’s and one that suffered.

There was a variation agreement with General Motors, whose Chevrolet brand was United’s shirt-front sponsor last season, struck in August 2020,; revised deals with other partners, taking into account disruption to TV rights, also had a further impact on United’s commercial activity.

At a time when City’s commercial income was seemingly immune to COVID-19, United were left to count the cost of a £47 million shortfall year on year.

“We are proud of the strength and resilience that our club has shown through the pandemic, despite the significant loss of revenues from normal levels while matches were being played behind closed doors,” said a United spokesperson. “Our commercial business remains industry-leading, as demonstrated by the series of new globally-recognised, third-party partnerships and renewals announced over the past year.”

If United have lost their place as England’s richest club, what are the chances of them reclaiming that status this season?

Much will depend on the fortunes of City and United over the 2021-22 season’s final five months. Although City are the overwhelming favourites to retain their Premier League crown, both clubs have qualified for the Champions League knockout phase and will hope to go deep in that competition.

United have already bettered last season’s group-stage exit by reaching the last 16, but City will have ambitions to go one step further than last season and win their first European Cup.

How big a slice of UEFA’s broadcast revenues the two clubs receive will have a significant bearing on who comes out on top in the next set of accounts, but United can at least expect to close the gap now they have Old Trafford back to full capacity. Every sold-out game there is worth in the region of £3 million to them.
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“For Manchester United, the impact of playing in closed stadia was bigger,” adds KPMG’s Sartori. “We all know that the Etihad Stadium is much smaller and does not attract as many fans as Old Trafford. Manchester United’s match-day revenue has been double Manchester City’s. A season playing without fans was far more negative for United than City.

“It remains to be seen if City can maintain this. Manchester United have a history of 30 years in being in the top three richest clubs in Europe.

“Getting to the final of the Champions League was the big differentiator for City in 2020-21. Should they reach the final again, or go and win the Champions League, this will help to keep the top place.

“If they were eliminated at the earlier stages, I would presume that would change things. But that is always the case — sporting success, COVID-19 aside, makes the difference.”

Expect United to make up lost commercial ground, too.

Their new shirt sponsorship deal with TeamViewer is considered to be among the largest of its kind, while the re-signing of Cristiano Ronaldo after 12 years away with Real Madrid and Juventus brings its own guaranteed yield.

To be even considering City as financial rivals to United, though, indicates a remarkable feat.

“United’s total income in 2009 was £278 million,” says Maguire. “City’s was £87 million — United were almost treble that of City. To have eliminated that over the course of 12 years is incredible.

“But United can reclaim that number one spot with that match-day revenue advantage. City will always be playing catch-up there. But a lot will depend on how the two clubs perform in the Champions League knockout stages.”

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Re: City Revenue Overtakes RAGS

Postby john68 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:07 pm

Looking a bit deeper, it seems that the rags are becoming more and more dependent on their historical successes to rake in the cash, rather than anything they are doing currently. Should their lack of current success be prolonged it will have certainly have a detrimental affect on the commercial strength over time.
The other personal observation is that the rags are being pulled forward in several directions. Their need to have football success immediately seems to have forced some desperate and costly decisions in managerial appointments and poor player recruitment. Instead of being able to set a longer term project of improvement in place, they appear to be making decisions for the NOW, with little consideration of future consequences.

On the other hand, City had a long term project put in place at the start of the Sheiks ownership which bit by bit (BIG BITS) has shown massive improvements both on and off the field. The playing successes of all our teams, our commercial rise and the obvious argument that, while the rags a club of the past, City are the club of the now built on solid foundations and of the future.

I can see City falling behind again financially next season when outside influences like the effects of Covid have eased but in the longer term, City will continue to gain gound and move much further ahead in the future.

Commercial parity with the rags was a far off dream for most of us. Hopefully in the near future it will be merely be a dream for the rags.
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