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Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:46 pm
by zabbadabbado
Interested to hear peoples opinions on this.
This is not a Pep out thread.
Over a 38 game season, he has proved time, and time again, he is a good manager. Winning 3 Titles already is evidence of that.
When it comes to pressure one off games, Particularly in the latter stages of the Champions League campaigns. He has been found badly wanting, time, and time again though.
The last 3 Champions League campaigns he fucked it up really badly. Costing us the Trophy it self last season. In my opinion we should have been the worthy winners. But Pep in his wisdom did what Pep does best in high pressure games over thinks it, and totally fuck it up by changing a winning formula to play Sterling who had been shit for a full season.
Not his only fuck up either. Who can forget that bench of Substitutes we finished with going out the season before in the Champions League. It was incomprehensible.
Going back even further there was Benching of KDB at Spurs away and going out on away Goals.
In fact you could put every exit in the Champions League on Pep. There was Monaco away when we had a healthy first leg advantage. Where he was incapable of defending it. We went out.
It is not just with us either Bayern won the League by a Canter every season. When it came to the latter stages of the Champions League he cost Bayern Munich every time. The Bayern game against Real Madrid springs to mind.
It really is a common theme with him.
Great manager over a season.
When it comes to pressure one off games he unravels mentally more often than not.
Hence why now i am fearing the worst.
It is that point of the season again. Every game now is a pressure game
He made 7 changes in an FA Cup Semi-Final,5 of them were not necessary. Played a Keeper who has an error in him every time behind a ravaged defence and midfield.
We didn't just go out of the FA Cup we handed Liverpool a psychological advantage at an important point of the season.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:57 pm
by Harry Dowd scored
There is no doubt he fucked up in the CL final, still rankles with many blues, last Saturday the spin is he had little choice with outfield players due to injuries and “fatigue” but the real turd in the water pipe was the selection of Steffen in goal not withstanding his poor display against Saints in the last round, the constant playing of an inferior goalkeeper in cup competitions makes Zero sense.
It is stating the obvious but against dippers pick the best available, now dippers have momentum, Steffens confidence is shot and we are out of the cup.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:04 pm
by Dimples
The CL exit to Spurs and Liverpool I discount. They were rigged, beyond doubt. Particularly both legs against Liverpool.
FA cup exit last Saturday is a bad example of a Pep error. Previous three games were tough in higher priority competitions, nurse injuries and rest required by key players were prioritised over a minor competition with the big picture in mind, promises may have been made to Steffan, etc...
The remainder I agree with for the CL. Lyon and Chelsea for example.
Using Chelsea game as an example.
Before the final I looked at a tactical analysis of the game on a podcast.
It was interesting because they predicted that Sterling would play because of the way Chelsea lined up and that Pep would not be able to resist it because it was logical and made sense - on paper. I thought thes guys were two chancers. But they called it right.
There is the answer for me.
Pep is an innovator who dissects opponents and spots flaws weaknesses that others do not see. Then picks his team accordingly.
The problem is the changes can disrupt the established rhythm of the team and therefore have a negative effect.
IMO this is what happened against Chelsea.
Good idea but a cascading effect where the changes disrupted our flow and were not implemented as planned due to us not playing that way often enough.
In short, to clever for your own good.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:10 pm
by zabbadabbado
Harry Dowd scored wrote:There is no doubt he fucked up in the CL final, still rankles with many blues, last Saturday the spin is he had little choice with outfield players due to injuries and “fatigue” but the real turd in the water pipe was the selection of Steffen in goal not withstanding his poor display against Saints in the last round, the constant playing of an inferior goalkeeper in cup competitions makes Zero sense.
It is stating the obvious but against dippers pick the best available, now dippers have momentum, Steffens confidence is shot and we are out of the cup.
Crazy logic though isn't it ?
I will Rotate my Keeper for an inferior Keeper, because i have to Rotate.
This was a game against our fierce rivals for the Premier League.
I actually believe he wanted to lose that game.
I can not come to any other conclusion.
And i think his Ego dictated we make just one substitute late on. Heaven forbid he make 4,or 5 Substitutes we win. And reporters question his original starting 11.
He never thinks he gets it wrong, even when his own Eyes tell him different.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:17 pm
by zabbadabbado
Dimples wrote:The CL exit to Spurs and Liverpool I discount. They were rigged, beyond doubt. Particularly both legs against Liverpool.
FA cup exit last Saturday is a bad example of a Pep error. Previous three games were tough in higher priority competitions, nurse injuries and rest required by key players were prioritised over a minor competition with the big picture in mind, promises may have been made to Steffan, etc...
The remainder I agree with for the CL. Lyon and Chelsea for example.
Using Chelsea game as an example.
Before the final I looked at a tactical analysis of the game on a podcast.
It was interesting because they predicted that Sterling would play because of the way Chelsea lined up and that Pep would not be able to resist it because it was logical and made sense - on paper. I thought thes guys were two chancers. But they called it right.
There is the answer for me.
Pep is an innovator who dissects opponents and spots flaws weaknesses that others do not see. Then picks his team accordingly.
The problem is the changes can disrupt the established rhythm of the team and therefore have a negative effect.
IMO this is what happened against Chelsea.
Good idea but a cascading effect where the changes disrupted our flow and were not implemented as planned due to us not playing that way often enough.
In short, to clever for your own good.
Good read that.
There were many at Bayern Munich that were glad Pep went.
They didn't see them selves winning the Champions League under him.
He really needs the Champions League Monkey of his back.
He should have won it by now with Bayern, and us.
He has had the best City side in living memory.
There is not a football fan out there that believes Chelsea were the better side last season.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:24 pm
by PeterParker
There are a lot of things about him that can be said.
He is an undisputed champion, trophy winner, and one of the best that ever was.
I think it's about his stubbornness, about the fact he is so convinced of his own ideas that many times he is missing the obvious and most likely doesn't listen.
We are a very predictable team, however, the quality of the players makes it, in many cases, useless for the other team. They know what we are about, they know what to do, they just can't.
With some fine tunning, I think Pep would have won even more trophies.
Crazy, right? But I really can't remember the last time, after a game, I said: They were better than us.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:09 pm
by sheblue
It's the 64 million dollar question. Why does a clearly talented manager make such very basic and obvious errors.
I think we will never really know the answer.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:48 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
He’s a great league manager and that’s it IMO - that’s what you get with him in charge and you should expect little else .
As far as the CL and FA cup journeys we have had , he just cannot make consecutive right calls can he !! there’s always one huge FUCKUP in him when it comes to team selections AND tactics which more often than not has us fail in those competitions .
It’s beyond comprehension.
Also ,his squad is the smallest in the league and that’s his fucking fault .
2 players out and none in to replace them - so when he complains about having no first team players and he was left with “no options “ then he has only himself to blame .
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:49 pm
by Mase
He wants people to say, “that was because of Pep’s genius. Everyone thought he was mad to do it, but City wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t because of that tactical change by Pep!”
He doesn’t want to just win easy.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:56 pm
by PeterParker
Mase wrote:He wants people to say, “that was because of Pep’s genius. Everyone thought he was mad to do it, but City wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t because of that tactical change by Pep!”
He doesn’t want to just win easy.
Is there something that really annoyed me, beyond the brainfarts, is that he failed to crush the rags when he had so many chances to do that.
I am still gutted we didn't win the league, on our turf, in 2018.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:37 pm
by london blue 2
The way I see it Liverpool are in the perfect position (other than a point behind) where they must play 100% each game or they’re done. No s come chances.
Last season we had a buffer in the league and imo that led to us (pep) overthinking, resting and frankly taking our foot off the pedal. We lost to Chelsea twice as a result and missed out on the quad.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:54 pm
by lovecity8utd
PeterParker wrote:Mase wrote:He wants people to say, “that was because of Pep’s genius. Everyone thought he was mad to do it, but City wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t because of that tactical change by Pep!”
He doesn’t want to just win easy.
Is there something that really annoyed me, beyond the brainfarts, is that he failed to crush the rags when he had so many chances to do that.
I am still gutted we didn't win the league, on our turf, in 2018.
Rewatch the match. Not Pep’s fault we lost that match.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:12 pm
by City64
Absolute fucking state of this .
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:26 pm
by Beefymcfc
Done well tonight, I do wonder what he could win if he didn’t unravel? Maybe a PL title, a double, a treble? Could he beat PL records with all those points, what about all the other stuff he’s achieved?
I do get where the OP is coming from as we have not quite achieved Pep’s overall feats in the CL but, I would add, you have to be even more ‘Incredible’ to barge through their system.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:33 pm
by City64
Beefymcfc wrote:Done well tonight, I do wonder what he could win if he didn’t unravel? Maybe a PL title, a double, a treble? Could he beat PL records with all those points, what about all the other stuff he’s achieved?
I do get where the OP is coming from as we have not quite achieved Pep’s overall feats in the CL but, I would add, you have to be even more ‘Incredible’ to barge through their system.
Moyes or Big Sam needed maybe ?
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:38 pm
by City64
Pep breaks yet another record tonight…….
The quickest ever manager in PL history to reach 250 wins , in 52 games less than his nearest challenger Mourinho.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:42 pm
by Beefymcfc
City64 wrote:Pep breaks yet another record tonight…….
The quickest ever manager in PL history to reach 250 wins , in 52 games less than his nearest challenger Mourinho.
Yeahhh, but give congratulations to Klopp and Liverpool who have pushed Pep and City to such heights.
Says the echo.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

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Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:45 pm
by stupot
City64 wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:Done well tonight, I do wonder what he could win if he didn’t unravel? Maybe a PL title, a double, a treble? Could he beat PL records with all those points, what about all the other stuff he’s achieved?
I do get where the OP is coming from as we have not quite achieved Pep’s overall feats in the CL but, I would add, you have to be even more ‘Incredible’ to barge through their system.
Moyes or Big Sam needed maybe ?
Sean Dyche, Ole is available too. Get rid of the Championship manager. Only 1 point clear and semis of the CL. Bald cunt
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:58 pm
by Nick
Blues that point out the frutration for how he could do even better in big games arent wanting him replaced.
Nearly similar to how much hart got on my tits, but not.
Re: Why Does Pep Unravel At This Point Every Season.

Posted:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:07 pm
by Outcast
Sorry, just don't see the point of this thread at this point, we're still in the two biggest competitions, the ones that really matter. I'll be honest, I didn't give a fuck about the FA cup this season for various reasons, don't get me wrong I'm not knocking or dismissing it, just seeing the bigger pic, we need to win the champions League to take us to next level no matter how we feel about this competition. If he fails, then by all means feel free to cricise him, I've criticised him numerous times but won't do it for sake of doing it.