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Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:21 pm
by Dimples
Assuming all of the following transfers are completed:

In/Out:

Haaland/Jesus
Avarez/Sterling
Phillips/Fern
Cucurella/Mendy

IMO we will be stronger. Considerably so.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:25 pm
by nottsblue
If we keep Bernado and Gundogan then yes. But if we lose one or both of those then they are big misses.

If we get Cucarella in I will be quite happy with the transfer business done

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:43 pm
by Mase
Depends if Bern stays, like Notts says. If we keep him we’re miles stronger with a deadly finisher.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:53 pm
by sheblue
Stronger perhaps. Also maybe a different way of playing next season.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:21 pm
by Beefymcfc
Very much stronger. We had to rely on goals from midfield, just having a striker can account for 3 in the middle.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:05 am
by john68
With Haaland and Alvarez deal completed, we have potentially solved our biggest problem of trying to improve our chance to goals ratio. Cosidering that we are the leagues highest scorers already, that alone should see us leave our domestic rivals behind and push is through that invisible obstacle we suffered from in the CL.
Keeping hold of Bernie is crucial if we are to maintain our top level of midfield creativity and if we do, I don't seea mif=dfield that can touch us.
Rodri is top class as a defensive midfielder and an able replacement for Fernie but it remains to be seen if Phillips can step up and reach the higher standards set by City in that same position.

Our defence is well covered with only two real question marks; Will Stones be able to regain and keep his top form and will Cucurella be able to cope with the left back role that Pep will demand.

We have undoubtedly plugged the gaps, and if those questions are answered positively we are in a far stronger position than we have been to see of all comers.

The final question remains....How will our nearest challengers respond to our strengthening?

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:00 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
I’m worried about our pace our wide if both Jesus and Sterling go. Other than that far string imo.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:02 pm
by City64
Different dynamics with how we play this coming season which is very exciting and refreshing. The power and height of Haaland changes everything after a couple of years playing without a striker . Alvarez also looks very exciting a type of Aguero forward but with more mobility and movement if that is even possible. We now have the option to cross into the box with Haaland,s height or play into feet in and around the box and still have pace and power in abundance to hit teams on the break . We still need a LB that is still a huge issue for us hopefully it will be sorted in the next few weeks .

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:13 pm
by PeterParker
We are stronger and I think we are doing an excellent thing.
We were at the end of cycle with many players and they needed something new, like we did.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:13 pm
by branny
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I’m worried about our pace our wide if both Jesus and Sterling go. Other than that far string imo.


Haaland running the channels?

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:26 am
by Tokyo Blue
I don't know. We haven't played any matches yet.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:15 am
by Dubciteh
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I’m worried about our pace our wide if both Jesus and Sterling go. Other than that far string imo.


Me too.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:32 am
by branny
Dubciteh wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I’m worried about our pace our wide if both Jesus and Sterling go. Other than that far string imo.


Me too.


Sterling didn't have any pace, just fast moving short legs.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:04 pm
by john@staustell
branny wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I’m worried about our pace our wide if both Jesus and Sterling go. Other than that far string imo.


Me too.


Sterling didn't have any pace, just fast moving short legs.


We'll never replace his talents for missing from short range or simply falling on his arse

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:47 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
john@staustell wrote:
branny wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I’m worried about our pace our wide if both Jesus and Sterling go. Other than that far string imo.


Me too.


Sterling didn't have any pace, just fast moving short legs.


We'll never replace his talents for missing from short range or simply falling on his arse



I know it’s the cool thing to do but year in year out he’s one of our top scorers and only behind Aguero under Pep.

Say what you want about his shortcomings but if anyone could score the goals he scores he’d have been replaced years ago. We will miss him in my opinion. I trust Pep will change our style a bit and keep us at the top, but it’s very much revisionist history on here to take away the massive contribution of Raheem Sterling.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:12 am
by PeterParker
To be honest, the corner flag can replace Mendy without any problems.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:19 pm
by dazby
Yeah it feels a bit off to lose Jesus AND Sterling. Unless we get an absolute speed merchant. I'm not sure Alvarez is that kind of guy.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:51 pm
by Dimples
dazby wrote:Yeah it feels a bit off to lose Jesus AND Sterling. Unless we get an absolute speed merchant. I'm not sure Alvarez is that kind of guy.


Despite all the goals scored and chances created and pots won, for the past two seasons, in the really big games,
I had no real confidence that we would convert enough of the numerous chances created.
It felt like we needed a really big shake up with the attacking players.
We have that now, Sterling, Jesus and Torres gone. Haaland, Alvarez, second season Grealish and Foden a year older, in.
With anyone other than Pep in charge I would say that was to many changes to handle. With him I don't think it is.

I am looking forward to clinical finishing, maybe out of a reduced number of chances but it is all about which team scores the most goals.

I predict Haaland will be the leading PL goal scorer and DeBruyne will lead the assist chart.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:59 pm
by john68
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
john@staustell wrote:
branny wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I’m worried about our pace our wide if both Jesus and Sterling go. Other than that far string imo.


Me too.


Sterling didn't have any pace, just fast moving short legs.


We'll never replace his talents for missing from short range or simply falling on his arse



I know it’s the cool thing to do but year in year out he’s one of our top scorers and only behind Aguero under Pep.

Say what you want about his shortcomings but if anyone could score the goals he scores he’d have been replaced years ago. We will miss him in my opinion. I trust Pep will change our style a bit and keep us at the top, but it’s very much revisionist history on here to take away the massive contribution of Raheem Sterling.


Sorry Lee but i take your point but disagree with your final conclusion.
I agree that anyone or at least any decent striker could score the goals, but that's not the problem.
It's someone who can replace those goals that we will lose and add at least some of those goals that Sterling has blatantly missed.
With the creativity we already have, we are always going to create chances and at the very top level we are seeking to achieve, those are the goals we need.
Peobably the best example was the first half v Real Madrid. Had we turmed all those chances into goals, that tie would have been over and City would most likely have been playing in the CL final. It was those missed chances that saw us eventually beaten.

Re: Is 2022/2023 City stronger or weaker than 2021/2022?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:42 pm
by patrickblue
john68 wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
john@staustell wrote:
branny wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:
Me too.


Sterling didn't have any pace, just fast moving short legs.


We'll never replace his talents for missing from short range or simply falling on his arse



I know it’s the cool thing to do but year in year out he’s one of our top scorers and only behind Aguero under Pep.

Say what you want about his shortcomings but if anyone could score the goals he scores he’d have been replaced years ago. We will miss him in my opinion. I trust Pep will change our style a bit and keep us at the top, but it’s very much revisionist history on here to take away the massive contribution of Raheem Sterling.


Sorry Lee but i take your point but disagree with your final conclusion.
I agree that anyone or at least any decent striker could score the goals, but that's not the problem.
It's someone who can replace those goals that we will lose and add at least some of those goals that Sterling has blatantly missed.
With the creativity we already have, we are always going to create chances and at the very top level we are seeking to achieve, those are the goals we need.
Peobably the best example was the first half v Real Madrid. Had we turmed all those chances into goals, that tie would have been over and City would most likely have been playing in the CL final. It was those missed chances that saw us eventually beaten.


TBH, I reckon we dodged a bullet there, Paris would have been all our fault.
I certainly see Lee's point, and TBH I'm always amazed when I see Razza's stats for City, they don't seem to bear any relation to the Sterling we see week in, week out.
But at the end of the day I do believe Sterling's run his course with us, and is now a level below our standard.