Ins and Outs for update

[john@staustell]

Years ago we used to have to tell SKY about updates, as we weren't important enough, obviously. I'm sort of thinking they have their act together now and this is the current list according to them. 18 outs and 3 ins. Ari Muric says undisclosed, but I had read 3m somewhere. Roughly 72m in credit so far (very rough tally). I'm sure we'll soon sort that out


In

Erling Haaland - Borussia Dortmund, £51m

Stefan Ortega - Arminia Bielefeld, free

Kalvin Phillips - Leeds United, £50m

Out

Raheem Sterling - Chelsea, £47.5m

Lewis Fiorini - Blackpool, loan

Jayden Braaf - Borussia Dortmund, free

Pedro Porro - Sporting Lisbon, £7.2m

Gavin Bazunu - Southampton, £15m

James Trafford - Bolton, loan

Fernandinho - Athletico Paranaense, free

CJ Egan-Riley - Burnley, free

Taylor Harwood-Bellis - Burnley, loan

Ko Itakura - Borussia Monchengladbach, £4.3m

Gabriel Jesus - Arsenal, 45m

Darko Gyabi - Leeds, £5m

Tommy Doyle - Sheffield Utd, loan

Romeo Lavia - Southampton, £12m

Callum Doyle - Coventry, loan

Zack Steffen - Middlesbrough, loan

Arijanet Muric - Burnley, undisclosed

Oleksandr Zinchenko - Arsenal, £32m

[littlebig]

We’ve done well on sales prices

[john@staustell]

If we keep it in the black (even with an Ake-Torres swap) I'm thinking how stupid Tebas will look with his complaint about City spending too much money this summer

[patrickblue]

If we keep it in the black (even with an Ake-Torres swap) I'm thinking how stupid Tebas will look with his complaint about City spending too much money this summer

And just as funny, the scousers will lose the net spend e̶x̶c̶u̶s̶e̶ trophy.

[nottsblue]

Think they overestimated the Phillips transfer fee as well

[stupot]

And we got 50 plus mill in Jan for Torres- a massive profit and spent just 14 on Alvarez.

[Dimples]

If we were Liverpool, our transfer business would be used as a model for everyone else. Year after year we do great business.
We get a lot more right than wrong.
DeBruyne, Rodri, Gundo, Ed, Cancelo, Bernado, Mahrez, Haaland, Alvarez, etc... have all (will be) been exceptional buys.
Grealish was expensive but may be worth it.
Mendy was a disaster but in the main we are far smarter than Liverpool and the rest.

Compare media re Grealish vs. Nunez.
Will Nunez score more than Haaland scream the media? (really, who the fuck is Nunez and what has he done?)
Grealish the £100M drunken flop (who just won a PL medal).

Bastards the lot of them.

[Bluemoon4610]

If we keep it in the black (even with an Ake-Torres swap) I'm thinking how stupid Tebas will look with his complaint about City spending too much money this summer

For Tebas to look stupid, he just has to open his mouth. He doesn't need any outside help...

[Dimples]

If we keep it in the black (even with an Ake-Torres swap) I'm thinking how stupid Tebas will look with his complaint about City spending too much money this summer

For Tebas to look stupid, he just has to open his mouth. He doesn't need any outside help...

The Barca pantomime makes Tebas look like a complete clown.
Debt of around a billion £ and yet they are buying players left, right and center.

Zero credibility for that fool.

[Two's Kompany]

If we keep it in the black (even with an Ake-Torres swap) I'm thinking how stupid Tebas will look with his complaint about City spending too much money this summer

For Tebas to look stupid, he just has to open his mouth. He doesn't need any outside help...

The Barca pantomime makes Tebas look like a complete clown.
Debt of around a billion £ and yet they are buying players left, right and center.

Zero credibility for that fool.

I honestly don't know why this isn't being investigated.
Could you imagine the uproar if a business owed millions to employees but were spending millions more updating equipment before paying them?

[patrickblue]

If we keep it in the black (even with an Ake-Torres swap) I'm thinking how stupid Tebas will look with his complaint about City spending too much money this summer

For Tebas to look stupid, he just has to open his mouth. He doesn't need any outside help...

The Barca pantomime makes Tebas look like a complete clown.
Debt of around a billion £ and yet they are buying players left, right and center.

Zero credibility for that fool.

I honestly don't know why this isn't being investigated.
Could you imagine the uproar if a business owed millions to employees but were spending millions more updating equipment before paying them?

It's what we always suspected, that there are different rules in place for the likes of Barca.

[john@staustell]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... -mastered/

I think it's a pay site but I had an old log-in. I'll post the whole article as I doubt there's many avid Telegraph readers in our fold


Splashing the cash but millions in profit - how slick Man City mastered the transfer market
City have raised £232 million through sales in 2022 and have acquired a reputation as possibly Europe's best-run club off the pitch

It is not just on the pitch that Manchester City are setting the standard and inviting envy. They have become the benchmark against which other leading European clubs are being judged in the transfer market and, for those who suggest that is easy when you have lots of cash to splash, you only need to look at what has happened at the likes of Barcelona and Manchester United to know money alone offers no guarantee of success.

Yet this year, in particular, feels like a watershed moment in City’s evolution under Abu Dhabi ownership. Criticism and scepticism will continue to abound over the club’s commercial revenues, with so many key sponsors drawn from the Middle East. But City have become so slick and skilled in their transfer dealings that, 14 years after the takeover that stunned English football, they can strengthen a serial title winning squad with one of the most coveted strikers in Europe and still find themselves swimming in profit.

City have already raised £232 million through sales this year following the departures of Ferran Torres, Raheem Sterling, Gabriel Jesus, Oleksandr Zinchenko and a host of promising youngsters and that figure may well hit £250m before the summer is out, an extraordinary sum in this post-Covid climate.

As things stand, City are sitting on a net transfer profit of £122m in 2022, and while that figure will drop if Pep Guardiola succeeds in adding the £50m rated Brighton left back Marc Cucurella to the four players he has already signed this summer, the Premier League champions are still in line to end the year with a net profit of more than £70m.

Bearing in mind that City have signed the Norway superstar Erling Haaland, England midfielder Kalvin Phillips and the exciting young Argentina forward, Julian Alvarez, plus goalkeeper Stefan Ortega as a free agent, it is not as if they have left themselves severely weakened in the process of freshening up the squad either.

City are masters when it comes to forward planning, signing players at the right time for reasonable fees while moving quickly and decisively to offload others at prices that often make people sit up and take notice. It is little wonder that agents talk about them being one of, if not the best run club in Europe. This, of course, was the long-term goal all those years ago when City embarked on an aggressive, accelerated recruitment drive in a bid to hasten the club’s transformation and put plenty of noises out of joint in the process as they were stood accused of driving rampant market inflation.

Success on the pitch, naturally, makes that easier and City are operating in a virtuous circle. Players want to play for Guardiola and, equally, rival clubs want City’s cast offs, knowing they will be buying players with character, quality and a thirst for winning. In that regard, City have so much to thank Guardiola for. But director of football, Txiki Begiristain, chief executive Ferran Soriano and chief operating officer Omar Berrarda run quite the operation under the watch of chairman Khaldoon al-Mubarak, who probably does get enough credit for the strategy he sets, and the data analysis and scouting departments are as good as any in Europe.

Despite Sterling and Jesus each being in the final year of their contracts, Chelsea and Arsenal paid £50m and £45m respectively for the England forward and Brazil striker. Torres joined Barcelona for £55m in January and Zinchenko fetched £32m from Arsenal. It used to be City signing Arsenal’s outcasts in pursuit of Champions League football. The likes of Emmanuel Adebayor, Samir Nasri, Kolo Toure and Gael Clichy all moved from North London to Manchester. Now the shoe is on the other foot, with Arsenal trying to sign the best of the rest from City in a bid to force their way into the top four.

Yet it is the success City’s academy and the wider CFG are having drawing big fees for talented youngsters who may never have even played for the club’s first team that is helping to underpin their burgeoning transfer activity.

Southampton, who have recently poached Joe Shields from City to become their head of senior recruitment, committed £29m to sign goalkeeper Gavin Bazunu and midfielder Romeo Lavia from City and have had a £16m bid for striker Liam Delap rejected by the champions. It has not stopped there. The right back Pedro Porro joined Sporting Lisbon for £7m, midfielder Darko Gyabi went to Leeds for £5m at the same time as Phillips moved in the other direction and Borussia Monchengladbach bought the defender/midfielder Ko Itakura for £5m.

The former City captain Vincent Kompany, now in charge of Burnley, has signed goalkeeper Aro Muric and defender CJ Egan-Riley for fees that could total £4m and there could be a few more exits to follow at the Etihad Stadium over the coming weeks.

City insert sell-on clauses and buyback options in many of those deals and they continue to prove a useful additional cash generator while also offering some protection in the future in case a player turns out to be a major hit elsewhere. City could be in line to make around £8m from sell-on clauses should Jack Harrison and Ivan Ilic move on this summer.

For the rest, it is a case of trying to catch City if they can - on and off the pitch.

[Mase]

Think they overestimated the Phillips transfer fee as well

£42m rising to £45m with add-ons.

[patrickblue]

Think they overestimated the Phillips transfer fee as well

Overestimated isn't the right expression. Purposely overstated is far more accurate.
Made it up to suit their agenda is even more accurate.

[Dimples]

Crazy, absolutely crazy how far we have come.

Zinch, Jesus and Sterling were regarded by most City supporters as excellent squad players but not first pick best 11 players (borderline maybe Jesus).

They have moved on to play for teams battling at the top of the PL. They are being spoken about as automatic starters, key to their new club's ambitions and as excellent players. The supporters of their new club are delighted.

At City we wish them well but reckon we have replaced them with better players.

Mad. Absolutely mad. In a great way.

[john@staustell]

Crazy, absolutely crazy how far we have come.

Zinch, Jesus and Sterling were regarded by most City supporters as excellent squad players but not first pick best 11 players (borderline maybe Jesus).

They have moved on to play for teams battling at the top of the PL. They are being spoken about as automatic starters, key to their new club's ambitions and as excellent players. The supporters of their new club are delighted.

At City we wish them well but reckon we have replaced them with better players.

Mad. Absolutely mad. In a great way.

More importantly who the hell am I going to scream at now, with all 3 leading mistake-makers/missers gone?

Hopefully someone will step up to the plate!

[littlebig]

Crazy, absolutely crazy how far we have come.

Zinch, Jesus and Sterling were regarded by most City supporters as excellent squad players but not first pick best 11 players (borderline maybe Jesus).

They have moved on to play for teams battling at the top of the PL. They are being spoken about as automatic starters, key to their new club's ambitions and as excellent players. The supporters of their new club are delighted.

At City we wish them well but reckon we have replaced them with better players.

Mad. Absolutely mad. In a great way.

More importantly who the hell am I going to scream at now, with all 3 leading mistake-makers/missers gone?

Hopefully someone will step up to the plate!

There'll always be one!

[carl_feedthegoat]

Crazy, absolutely crazy how far we have come.

Zinch, Jesus and Sterling were regarded by most City supporters as excellent squad players but not first pick best 11 players (borderline maybe Jesus).

They have moved on to play for teams battling at the top of the PL. They are being spoken about as automatic starters, key to their new club's ambitions and as excellent players. The supporters of their new club are delighted.

At City we wish them well but reckon we have replaced them with better players.

Mad. Absolutely mad. In a great way.

More importantly who the hell am I going to scream at now, with all 3 leading mistake-makers/missers gone?

Hopefully someone will step up to the plate!

I’ll be on kalvin Phillips watch (the whole season ) who I think is just a boring sideways and backwards passer of the ball - don’t expect too many , if any , midfield splitting forward passes from him.

[Wonderwall]

Crazy, absolutely crazy how far we have come.

Zinch, Jesus and Sterling were regarded by most City supporters as excellent squad players but not first pick best 11 players (borderline maybe Jesus).

They have moved on to play for teams battling at the top of the PL. They are being spoken about as automatic starters, key to their new club's ambitions and as excellent players. The supporters of their new club are delighted.

At City we wish them well but reckon we have replaced them with better players.

Mad. Absolutely mad. In a great way.

More importantly who the hell am I going to scream at now, with all 3 leading mistake-makers/missers gone?

Hopefully someone will step up to the plate!

I’ll be on kalvin Phillips watch (the whole season ) who I think is just a boring sideways and backwards passer of the ball - don’t expect too many , if any , midfield splitting forward passes from him.

Fuck me is hell freezing over, I am agreeing with you.

[Dimples]

Crazy, absolutely crazy how far we have come.

Zinch, Jesus and Sterling were regarded by most City supporters as excellent squad players but not first pick best 11 players (borderline maybe Jesus).

They have moved on to play for teams battling at the top of the PL. They are being spoken about as automatic starters, key to their new club's ambitions and as excellent players. The supporters of their new club are delighted.

At City we wish them well but reckon we have replaced them with better players.

Mad. Absolutely mad. In a great way.

More importantly who the hell am I going to scream at now, with all 3 leading mistake-makers/missers gone?

Hopefully someone will step up to the plate!

I’ll be on kalvin Phillips watch (the whole season ) who I think is just a boring sideways and backwards passer of the ball - don’t expect too many , if any , midfield splitting forward passes from him.

Fuck me is hell freezing over, I am agreeing with you.

That is the way he plays for Leeds - within himself and predictable.
He has the potential to do much more. Pep and the coaches will try develop him this season.
I judge him next season, same way I am judging Jack this season.