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I see our stadium is one of ten named in the bid. Very interesting that the FA is happy to include the ground of a club which is facing all those premier league charges…..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65245224

And they are assuming we extend the north stand in time

I’d tell the FA to fuck themselves.

We will probably earn out of it as well

nottsblue wrote:We will probably earn out of it as well

Manchester Council might. I’d be surprised if we’d get money for sub-letting.

Anyone know how it would work?

We have a 150 year lease. We'll be making the money, the council will get their share by virtue of being a host city and all the economic benefits touring fans will bring.

KinkyKinkladze wrote:We have a 150 year lease. We'll be making the money, the council will get their share by virtue of being a host city and all the economic benefits touring fans will bring.

It’s a 250 year lease according to multiple websites. Unless it changed?

Genuine question, is the above fact? Are we allowed to lease out the stadium and we get the money even though we don’t own it. All the gigs that happen at the stadium, do we get the money from them?

No anfield or old trafford. How the times have changed!

Mase wrote:

KinkyKinkladze wrote:We have a 150 year lease. We'll be making the money, the council will get their share by virtue of being a host city and all the economic benefits touring fans will bring.

It’s a 250 year lease according to multiple websites. Unless it changed?

Genuine question, is the above fact? Are we allowed to lease out the stadium and we get the money even though we don’t own it. All the gigs that happen at the stadium, do we get the money from them?

150 or 250, any operations that happen at the ground are on our watch so we'll make the dough.

Mase wrote:

KinkyKinkladze wrote:We have a 150 year lease. We'll be making the money, the council will get their share by virtue of being a host city and all the economic benefits touring fans will bring.

It’s a 250 year lease according to multiple websites. Unless it changed?

Genuine question, is the above fact? Are we allowed to lease out the stadium and we get the money even though we don’t own it. All the gigs that happen at the stadium, do we get the money from them?

Last time I went on a stadium tour, the guide said we make money from the concerts.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Mase wrote:

KinkyKinkladze wrote:We have a 150 year lease. We'll be making the money, the council will get their share by virtue of being a host city and all the economic benefits touring fans will bring.

It’s a 250 year lease according to multiple websites. Unless it changed?

Genuine question, is the above fact? Are we allowed to lease out the stadium and we get the money even though we don’t own it. All the gigs that happen at the stadium, do we get the money from them?

Last time I went on a stadium tour, the guide said we make money from the concerts.

Brilliant, nice one. Wondered if it was like a normal lease - if I leased a car I couldn’t then lease it to another person. Equally if I rented a flat, I couldn’t then rent it to someone else.

But if we’re making the money from gigs we should be making any money from this bid as well.

I have a question: why were so many empty seats at Euro 96 in all of the games except when England played?

Were the prices of the tickets really high? People didn't care that much about the competition?

PeterParker wrote:I have a question: why were so many empty seats at Euro 96 in all of the games except when England played?

Were the prices of the tickets really high? People didn't care that much about the competition?

I had tickets for all England games. Purchased in advance, they were £30 each totalling £180 for all the wembley games

PeterParker wrote:I have a question: why were so many empty seats at Euro 96 in all of the games except when England played?

Were the prices of the tickets really high? People didn't care that much about the competition?

Possibly down to general apathy about International football. Hardly anyone I know is arsed about it. The International breaks when they happen are a distraction rather than something to look forward to.

Maybe tournament football would be different. But say Sweden v Greece for example is hardly something your average English punter is gonna get excited over

Mase wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Mase wrote:

KinkyKinkladze wrote:We have a 150 year lease. We'll be making the money, the council will get their share by virtue of being a host city and all the economic benefits touring fans will bring.

It’s a 250 year lease according to multiple websites. Unless it changed?

Genuine question, is the above fact? Are we allowed to lease out the stadium and we get the money even though we don’t own it. All the gigs that happen at the stadium, do we get the money from them?

Last time I went on a stadium tour, the guide said we make money from the concerts.

Brilliant, nice one. Wondered if it was like a normal lease - if I leased a car I couldn’t then lease it to another person. Equally if I rented a flat, I couldn’t then rent it to someone else.

But if we’re making the money from gigs we should be making any money from this bid as well.

But if you leased a car or flat, the lessor also wouldn't be able to lease it out to someone else while you were away on holiday, either... My *guess* is there's something in the T&Cs about what we can and can't also use the stadium for (and when).

I’ve just read that we renegotiated with MC a few years ago and they now get a flat £3m a year from us for rent of the stadium, instead of a % of gate sales. I’m assuming they get their £3m and that’s that. We get the money from gigs and other use of it.

Mase wrote:I’ve just read that we renegotiated with MC a few years ago and they now get a flat £3m a year from us for rent of the stadium, instead of a % of gate sales. I’m assume they get their £3m and that’s that. We get the money from gigs and other use of it.

Sounds like a good deal for us if so

PeterParker wrote:I have a question: why were so many empty seats at Euro 96 in all of the games except when England played?

Were the prices of the tickets really high? People didn't care that much about the competition?

If I remember right, you had to buy tickets to all group games at the stadium. So I think we had 3 matches at old Trafford, if you wanted to watch one you had to buy tickets for the other two. Most locals couldn't justify spending such cash when they only wanted to watch the odd game. It was a stupid idea and caused problems at every ground. If they'd just had normal purchasing, most stadiums would have been full.

I was only a kid, but if I knew Italy v Germany would be sold out, we'd have been able to say well fuck it, let's go watch another game. But that option wasn't available. No chance of low income homes like mine being able to wedge out on 3 matches.